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Unread 06/22/2014, 05:39 AM   #11226
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How well would a trio of Longspine Cardinals (Zoramia leptacantha) and a single Harptail Blenny (Meiacanthus mossambicus) "fare" in a 24 gallon (36” x 12.2” x 13”) tank?


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Unread 06/22/2014, 07:48 AM   #11227
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How well would a trio of Longspine Cardinals (Zoramia leptacantha) and a single Harptail Blenny (Meiacanthus mossambicus) "fare" in a 24 gallon (36” x 12.2” x 13”) tank?
Should be fine.


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Unread 06/22/2014, 03:58 PM   #11228
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34 Gal RSM

2 Ocellaris Clowns
1 Yellow watchman Goby
1 Pistol Shrimp
1 Cleaner Shrimp

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Purple Fire Fish
Royal Gamma
Arc Eye Hawkfish

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Unread 06/22/2014, 04:05 PM   #11229
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34 Gal RSM

2 Ocellaris Clowns
1 Yellow watchman Goby
1 Pistol Shrimp
1 Cleaner Shrimp

Looking at

Purple Fire Fish should be fine
Royal Gamma should be fine
Arc Eye Hawkfish not shrimp safe

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Unread 06/22/2014, 08:46 PM   #11230
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180 Gallon (6'x2'x2') FOWLR Preferred Stocking List

Flame Angelfish

Goldflake Angelfish
Blueline Angelfish

Latticed Butterflyfish
Pakistan Butterflyfish

Longnose Hawkfish (bonded pair)

Blue Spotted Puffer

Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Powder Brown Tang
Purple Tang

Red Tail Triggerfish

Bluehead Wrasse
Christmas Wrasse
Hoeven's Wrasse (male)

Harem of Lyretail Anthias (4-5 small females and let them work it out)

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Unread 06/22/2014, 08:50 PM   #11231
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180 Gallon (6'x2'x2') FOWLR Preferred Stocking List

Flame Angelfish

Goldflake Angelfish
Blueline Angelfish

Latticed Butterflyfish
Pakistan Butterflyfish

Longnose Hawkfish (bonded pair)

Blue Spotted Puffer

Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Powder Brown Tang
Purple Tang

Red Tail Triggerfish

Bluehead Wrasse
Christmas Wrasse
Hoeven's Wrasse (male)

Harem of Lyretail Anthias (4-5 small females and let them work it out)

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should be ok. I am slightly leery of three tangs in a six foot tank. Best to introduce the zebrasoma tang last.


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Unread 06/22/2014, 09:04 PM   #11232
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should be ok. I am slightly leery of three tangs in a six foot tank. Best to introduce the zebrasoma tang last.
Thank you. That's what I figured on the order. We'll see - I may skip the purple altogether. I prefer the Powder Blue but it seems that I'll be better off with a Powder Brown from an aggression standpoint, correct?


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Unread 06/23/2014, 05:13 AM   #11233
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Thank you. That's what I figured on the order. We'll see - I may skip the purple altogether. I prefer the Powder Blue but it seems that I'll be better off with a Powder Brown from an aggression standpoint, correct?
That is correct Zebrasoma tangs can be pretty territorial (all tangs are somewhat, these more so than most)


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Unread 06/23/2014, 05:43 AM   #11234
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75g reef, 35g sump

current occupants:
2 longnose hawkfish
2 snowflake clowns
1 orange spotted goby
1 mccosker's wrasse (male)
1 royal gramma
1 kole tang (soon to be added from qt)

i'm looking at the red velvet fairy wrasse. LA has a female right now. i won't be ordering for another week or so. if the female is unavailable, would a male work with my male mccosker's?

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Unread 06/23/2014, 06:36 AM   #11235
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75g reef, 35g sump

current occupants:
2 longnose hawkfish
2 snowflake clowns
1 orange spotted goby
1 mccosker's wrasse (male)
1 royal gramma
1 kole tang (soon to be added from qt)

i'm looking at the red velvet fairy wrasse. LA has a female right now. i won't be ordering for another week or so. if the female is unavailable, would a male work with my male mccosker's?

thanks, steve!!
Either a male or female would work.


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Unread 06/23/2014, 07:09 AM   #11236
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awesome! thanks again, steve. it just occurred to me that i can go ahead and set up that other 10g tank that i used for ttm and i won't have to wait to order. i can keep the new fish in there until i put the tang into my dt. and since the males are more colorful, i might go with that.

do wrasses fare well with ttm?


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Unread 06/23/2014, 07:28 AM   #11237
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awesome! thanks again, steve. it just occurred to me that i can go ahead and set up that other 10g tank that i used for ttm and i won't have to wait to order. i can keep the new fish in there until i put the tang into my dt. and since the males are more colorful, i might go with that.

do wrasses fare well with ttm?
all fish fare well with tank transfer. However, IF you are getting a sand dwelling wrasse, e.g. leopard, you will need to put a small tupperware (or similar brand) container of sand (new each time) for it. However fairy and flasher wrasses form a mucous cocoon rather than dive into the sand. So no worries.


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Unread 06/23/2014, 07:57 AM   #11238
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The tank occupants in my signature are accurate. I'm looking to add both a Starry Blenny and a McCosker's Wrasse at the same time. Any thoughts?


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all fish fare well with tank transfer. However, IF you are getting a sand dwelling wrasse, e.g. leopard, you will need to put a small tupperware (or similar brand) container of sand (new each time) for it. However fairy and flasher wrasses form a mucous cocoon rather than dive into the sand. So no worries.
perfect! again, thanks for your time, steve. you truly are an invaluable asset here even for experienced reefers. without your input, i would have made some pretty bad choices.


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Unread 06/23/2014, 08:30 AM   #11240
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The tank occupants in my signature are accurate. I'm looking to add both a Starry Blenny and a McCosker's Wrasse at the same time. Any thoughts?

Current Tank Info: 120 gal with 40B sump with fuge, pair of black Occellaris Clowns, purple Firefish, Coral Banded Shrimp, Foxface
Coral banded shrimp can take fish. Your proposed additions are fine. Know that firefish and flasher wrasses are prolific jumpers.


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Unread 06/23/2014, 01:07 PM   #11241
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Hi Steve. Now that the Helfrichi is single, what fish should I add next to get him a little more out & about the tank? He tends to hide a little more now since it's just him & the Randall goby.

Gold Assessor
Blenny - tailspot or maybe gold midas blenny
Pink Streak Wrasse
Possum Wrasse

I have decided to skip the chromis & since I didn't add a jawfish first, can you advise what other species I can look at that would coexist peacefully with the above list.

As always, thanks for your help & advice.


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40g sump with fuge(tons of macro and some LR/sand)
~65lbs of rock in the DT as well

Current stock:
2 Mocha Clowns
1 Firefish *
1 Purple Firefish
1 Lawnmore Blenny
1 Royal Gramma
1 Lyretail Anthias
1 mandarin dragonet(my pod pop is good and I supplement it twice a month minimum)
CUC of Snails and a cpl shrimp, and a small conch, no crabs

* Firefish, aware of issue with more than one, and even though they have been friendly for months they can flip out any time, if so this one goes to my brothers 100gallon.

Basically wanting to know if Im maxed out at this point for stock(or even overstocked). Everything gets along really well right now and they are all fat and happy(as far as I can tell)
I have a young Splendid Dottyback in the fuge with my diamond goby, and I want to move him as my last fish but if Im overstocked already he is happy in the fuge.

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Hi Steve. Now that the Helfrichi is single, what fish should I add next to get him a little more out & about the tank? He tends to hide a little more now since it's just him & the Randall goby.

Gold Assessor
Blenny - tailspot or maybe gold midas blenny
Pink Streak Wrasse
Possum Wrasse

I have decided to skip the chromis & since I didn't add a jawfish first, can you advise what other species I can look at that would coexist peacefully with the above list.

As an old timer to this thread, you know I never give suggestions. That being said . . . Of those you offered up, I really like either of the wrasses. A midas blenny will nip. A gold assessor will tend to be reclusive.

As always, thanks for your help & advice.
You are most welcome Michele!


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Unread 06/23/2014, 02:59 PM   #11244
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40g sump with fuge(tons of macro and some LR/sand)
~65lbs of rock in the DT as well

Current stock:
2 Mocha Clowns
1 Firefish *
1 Purple Firefish
1 Lawnmore Blenny
1 Royal Gramma
1 Lyretail Anthias
1 mandarin dragonet(my pod pop is good and I supplement it twice a month minimum) Despite your assurances, keeping this fish long term will be problematic
CUC of Snails and a cpl shrimp, and a small conch, no crabs

* Firefish, aware of issue with more than one, and even though they have been friendly for months they can flip out any time, if so this one goes to my brothers 100gallon.

Basically wanting to know if Im maxed out at this point for stock(or even overstocked). Everything gets along really well right now and they are all fat and happy(as far as I can tell)
I have a young Splendid Dottyback in the fuge with my diamond goby, and I want to move him as my last fish but if Im overstocked already he is happy in the fuge.

That dottyback will cause you a load of problems. It is a behavioral issue, not an overstocking issue, however.

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Hi Steve. Now that the Helfrichi is single, what fish should I add next to get him a little more out & about the tank? He tends to hide a little more now since it's just him & the Randall goby.

Gold Assessor
Blenny - tailspot or maybe gold midas blenny
Pink Streak Wrasse
Possum Wrasse

I have decided to skip the chromis & since I didn't add a jawfish first, can you advise what other species I can look at that would coexist peacefully with the above list.

As an old timer to this thread, you know I never give suggestions. That being said . . . Of those you offered up, I really like either of the wrasses. A midas blenny will nip. A gold assessor will tend to be reclusive.

As always, thanks for your help & advice.
I know, I was hoping you'd throw me an idea I can't think of anything else & shrimp eaters are out since I'm still planning on sexy shrimp down the road.

Well, then I'll go with the possum wrasse next in hopes that gets the helfrichi out more & do a tailspot blenny instead of the gold midas blenny since I'm sticking with the gold assessor.

Am I asking for trouble if after everything else goes in to add a juvenile pair of ocellaris clowns last? Most likely since I'm stocking fish very slow it would be sometime next year before they go in.

I really need a bigger tank or a good 12 step program.


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I know, I was hoping you'd throw me an idea I can't think of anything else & shrimp eaters are out since I'm still planning on sexy shrimp down the road.

Well, then I'll go with the possum wrasse next in hopes that gets the helfrichi out more & do a tailspot blenny instead of the gold midas blenny since I'm sticking with the gold assessor.

Either of the two wrasses would work well.

Am I asking for trouble if after everything else goes in to add a juvenile pair of ocellaris clowns last? Most likely since I'm stocking fish very slow it would be sometime next year before they go in.

Not initially. However two juveniles will sexually differentiate, bond, and eventually mate. At which point they will be on the aggressive side toward about 20 gallons of tank space.

I really need a bigger tank or a good 12 step program.
Perhaps both? However that is true for many of us. How is your horse?


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220 gallon. 6x24x30. I have a medium naso small blue hippo. Small yellow tang. Wyoming white. Snowflake. Black and white clown. Fox face. Am I maxed out or can I add more fish. Thinking of a six line wrasse. Clown trigger. Powder blue and sailfin


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ok thanks, didnt know the dottyback would be an issue if added last, he may be a permanent fuge resident with the goby then. Weird thing is he is super shy with other fish and me.

If I am supplementing pods all the time(and have a great population as it is) what other issues are there with Mandarins long term? Is it just that hard to keep up with? I have regular access to Reef Stew which is a copepod/newly hatched brine mix(with other things). Just curious.

And, as always, your input is greatly appreciated.


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220 gallon. 6x24x30. I have a medium naso small blue hippo. Small yellow tang. Wyoming white. Snowflake. Black and white clown. Fox face. Am I maxed out or can I add more fish. Thinking of a six line wrasse. Clown trigger. Powder blue and sailfin
Your current tangs will need a larger, longer tank. I doubt that four clownfish will survive long term; it is possible, but it rarely happens. A clown trigger is not a community fish no matter what tank size. Additional tangs in a six foot tang will not end well over time.


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ok thanks, didnt know the dottyback would be an issue if added last, he may be a permanent fuge resident with the goby then. Weird thing is he is super shy with other fish and me.

If I am supplementing pods all the time(and have a great population as it is) what other issues are there with Mandarins long term? Is it just that hard to keep up with? I have regular access to Reef Stew which is a copepod/newly hatched brine mix(with other things). Just curious.

And, as always, your input is greatly appreciated.
The problem is that mandarins (dragonets) eat constantly and it is virtually impossible to supply sufficient copepods for them to do well long term. Most (perhaps all) mandarins will eat frozen, but feeding once or twice a day is not going to sustain them.


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