PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Amoo

Ok Steve, I'm going to use a dirty word, but figured I would take a shot.

I'm attempting to fill out the top section of the 75g and was hoping you've had some experiences with the Blue Reef Chromis being kept in a school of 3? I know the greens usually end up as 1, didn't know about the Blue Reefs.

Same story, same ending.

[Amoo]

Rather unfortunate, Thank you again good sir.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Amoo

Rather unfortunate, Thank you again good sir.

It is unfortunate. Moreover, while you did not ask the question, they are highly susceptible to uronema marinum.

[Amoo]

Moreso then just a regular green chromis?

Schools of Yellowstriped Cardnials without them pairing and separating?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Amoo

Moreso then just a regular green chromis?

chromis seem to be ultra sensitive to contracting uronema marinum.

Schools of Yellowstriped Cardnials without them pairing and separating?

Initially. But long run, they pair off and separate. Closest species to get what you are looking for is Apogon Parvulus in normal sized aquaria. In large aquaria, glassy sweepers.

[Amoo]

I was hoping to avoid the Neon Tetras for SW but alas, I may have no choice for the smaller tank. Thank you and happy reefing!

[avandss]

Hey Guys, here is my fish list
link to my BUILD (all tank details with pics)

Snails:
5x cerith
5x nerith
5x nassarus (ADDED)
1x fighting conch (ADDED)
5x turbo (ADDED)
5x Ninja (ADDED)
5x margarita

Shrimp
2x Cleaner shrimp (ADDED)
2x Blood Shrimp
4x Peppermint shrimp
1x candy stripped pistol shrimp

crabs:
5x zebra (ADDED)
10x red scarlett
5x emerald

Star Fish:
1x Sand sifting starfish.
1x burgundy linkia starfish

Sea Urchin & invertebrates :
1x Tuxedo
1x sea hare (ADDED)

Tang’s
1x Naso Tang
1x Achillies Tang
1x Hippo (regal) Tang
1x Yellow Tang

Trigger’s
2x Blue Throat Trigger Pair

General Fish List:
1x ocellaris clownfish pair (ADDED)
5x Pyramide Butterflyfish
1x Cowfish
7x anthias Bartlett (ADDED)
5x blue reef chromis
2x Swiss guard basslet
1x Purple firefish pair
1x Yasha goby pair
1x Mandarin Pair
1x Bicolor blenny pair

Now on Saturday my clowns and anthias will be added to my DT after 6 1/2 weeks of qt (2-3 days of observation, 2 weeks prazy, 4 weeks copper)

now i need to add my second batch of fish, what do you recommend from that list?

ideally i would like to add

40 gallon long QT - 2 inch Hippo tang + 3 inch naso
20 gallon QT ??? -

Thank you (also please Recommend me other fish, if you think of any for my setup)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by avandss

Hey Guys, here is my fish list
link to my BUILD (all tank details with pics)

Snails:
5x cerith
5x nerith
5x nassarus (ADDED)
1x fighting conch (ADDED)
5x turbo (ADDED)
5x Ninja (ADDED)
5x margarita

Shrimp
2x Cleaner shrimp (ADDED)
2x Blood Shrimp
4x Peppermint shrimp
1x candy stripped pistol shrimp

crabs:
5x zebra (ADDED)
10x red scarlett
5x emerald

Star Fish:
1x Sand sifting starfish.
1x burgundy linkia starfish

Sea Urchin & invertebrates :
1x Tuxedo
1x sea hare (ADDED)

Tang’s
1x Naso Tang
1x Achillies Tang
1x Hippo (regal) Tang
1x Yellow Tang

Trigger’s
2x Blue Throat Trigger Pair

General Fish List:
1x ocellaris clownfish pair (ADDED)
5x Pyramide Butterflyfish
1x Cowfish
7x anthias Bartlett (ADDED)
5x blue reef chromis
2x Swiss guard basslet
1x Purple firefish pair
1x Yasha goby pair
1x Mandarin Pair
1x Bicolor blenny pair

Now on Saturday my clowns and anthias will be added to my DT after 6 1/2 weeks of qt (2-3 days of observation, 2 weeks prazy, 4 weeks copper)

now i need to add my second batch of fish, what do you recommend from that list?

ideally i would like to add

40 gallon long QT - 2 inch Hippo tang + 3 inch naso
20 gallon QT ??? -

Thank you (also please Recommend me other fish, if you think of any for my setup)

Sorry, but I do not follow links for tank information. All questions posted here should have: tank size, tank age, planned stocking list. Also, as those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However I am always happy to reanalyze any plan changes given the information above. Thanks.

[avandss]

take 2 (sorry snorvich, my apologies for not reading the guidelines)

here is my fish list, i would like to know compatibility and introduction order for my next batch of qt fish

display 265g
sump 125g
display age 3 months
lots of flow


rock work: *not the latest pictures, i am currently in my algae bloom stage)


Snails:
5x cerith
5x nerith
5x nassarus (ADDED)
1x fighting conch (ADDED)
5x turbo (ADDED)
5x Ninja (ADDED)
5x margarita

Shrimp
2x Cleaner shrimp (ADDED)
2x Blood Shrimp
4x Peppermint shrimp
1x candy stripped pistol shrimp

crabs:
5x zebra (ADDED)
10x red scarlett
5x emerald

Star Fish:
1x Sand sifting starfish.
1x burgundy linkia starfish

Sea Urchin & invertebrates :
1x Tuxedo
1x sea hare (ADDED)

Tang’s
1x Naso Tang
1x Achillies Tang
1x Hippo (regal) Tang
1x Yellow Tang

Trigger’s
2x Blue Throat Trigger Pair

General Fish List:
1x ocellaris clownfish pair (ADDED)
5x Pyramide Butterflyfish
1x Cowfish
7x anthias Bartlett (ADDED)
10x blue reef chromis
2x Swiss guard basslet
1x Purple firefish pair
1x Yasha goby pair
1x Mandarin Pair
1x Bicolor blenny pair

Now on Saturday my clowns and anthias will be added to my DT after 6 1/2 weeks of qt (2-3 days of observation, 2 weeks prazy, 4 weeks copper)

now i need to add my second batch of fish, what do you recommend from that list?

ideally i would like to add

40 gallon long QT - 2 inch Hippo tang + 3 inch naso
20 gallon QT ??? -

Thank you

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by avandss

take 2 (sorry snorvich, my apologies for not reading the guidelines)

here is my fish list, i would like to know compatibility and introduction order for my next batch of qt fish

display 265g
sump 125g
display age 3 months
lots of flow

Shrimp
2x Cleaner shrimp (ADDED)
2x Blood Shrimp
4x Peppermint shrimp
1x candy stripped pistol shrimp

crabs: crabs and snails are somewhat mutually exclusive since crabs will kill snails, ostensibly for their shells. However adding extra empty shells will not curtail this practice
5x zebra (ADDED)
10x red scarlett
5x emerald

Star Fish: undesirable as they will eventually starve to death, especially in a new tank
1x Sand sifting starfish.
1x burgundy linkia starfish

Sea Urchin & invertebrates : I would wait until tank is much more mature
1x Tuxedo
1x sea hare (ADDED)

Tang’s If this is a six foot tank (by appearance) rather than an eight foot tank, the naso and hippo will eventually feel crowded and may "pace"
1x Naso Tang
1x Achillies Tang
1x Hippo (regal) Tang
1x Yellow Tang must be last fish added

Trigger’s
2x Blue Throat Trigger Pair not invert safe

General Fish List:
1x ocellaris clownfish pair (ADDED)
5x Pyramide Butterflyfish
1x Cowfish needs slow gentle tank mates; you do not have the right tank mates for this fish ; difficult fish especially for new to the hobby
7x anthias Bartlett (ADDED)
10x blue reef chromis will become one over time
2x Swiss guard basslet
1x Purple firefish pair only one will survive long term unless you get very lucky
1x Yasha goby pair
1x Mandarin Pair be sure it is a male plus female or only one will make it
1x Bicolor blenny pair

Now on Saturday my clowns and anthias will be added to my DT after 6 1/2 weeks of qt (2-3 days of observation, 2 weeks prazy, 4 weeks copper)

now i need to add my second batch of fish, what do you recommend from that list?

ideally i would like to add

40 gallon long QT - 2 inch Hippo tang + 3 inch naso tangs last as mature tank is preferred for algae grazers
20 gallon QT ??? -

Thank you

[Zbreefer]

DT is 180g with 150lbs dry rock, 5 lbs live rock, and 2" live sand bed. Sump is a 75g tank, with a 32g refugium chamber that has 5" DSB. I do plan to have corals in the future once things mature. Finally, I have 2x10g for TtM and a cycled 20g long QT. My fish list is below:

2 orange ocellaris clowns (Just completed TTM, in QT right now)

I am looking at this list, and you approved in an earlier post. ( you indicated the flame angel is risky with corals). My question is, can any of these go through TTM and QT safely together, or should they all go solo?

1 dwarf flame angel
1 Goby (Thinking orange spotted, diamond watchman, or orange stripe prawn)
1 powder blue tang
1 yellow tang

1 Mandarin(once tank matures)
1 shrimp to pair with Goby once fish are added and the QT can be housed for 72 days.

Thanks in advance, ZB.

[avandss]

Thank you for the prompt reply, your input is much appreciated.
my tank is 84 long 24 deep 30 high

quick question regarding the blue chromies, the reason i wanted this one is my friend has a 120gallon reef with 6 of them, and they have been fine for over 9 months, any specific species, or just pure luck and a ticking time bomb?

thank you again!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Zbreefer

DT is 180g with 150lbs dry rock, 5 lbs live rock, and 2" live sand bed. Sump is a 75g tank, with a 32g refugium chamber that has 5" DSB. I do plan to have corals in the future once things mature. Finally, I have 2x10g for TtM and a cycled 20g long QT. excellent setup


My fish list is below:

2 orange ocellaris clowns (Just completed TTM, in QT right now)

I am looking at this list, and you approved in an earlier post. ( you indicated the flame angel is risky with corals). My question is, can any of these go through TTM and QT safely together, or should they all go solo?

1 dwarf flame angel
1 Goby (Thinking orange spotted, diamond watchman, or orange stripe prawn)
1 powder blue tang I would separate the two tangs but ideally add them concurrently. Worst case, the yellow tang last.
1 yellow tang

1 Mandarin(once tank matures)
1 shrimp to pair with Goby once fish are added and the QT can be housed for 72 days.

Thanks in advance, ZB.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by avandss

Thank you for the prompt reply, your input is much appreciated.
my tank is 84 long 24 deep 30 high the longer the tank the better when it comes to tanks. 7 foot is marginal for the number and size you were considering

quick question regarding the blue chromies, the reason i wanted this one is my friend has a 120gallon reef with 6 of them, and they have been fine for over 9 months, any specific species, or just pure luck and a ticking time bomb? somewhat pure luck. However, the rare instances when I have seen it work long term was a long tank, with relatively high flow. The uronema issue can be obviated with a good quarantine protocol

thank you again!

[Zbreefer]

So I could do the dwarf and goby together?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Zbreefer

So I could do the dwarf and goby together?

sure. The way to think about it is "do they occupy the identical ecological niche" and if the answer is yes, they should go through separately.

[Zbreefer]

Originally Posted by snorvich

sure. The way to think about it is "do they occupy the identical ecological niche" and if the answer is yes, they should go through separately.

Thank you very much. You and others make this hobby much more manageable for new reefers. Thanks again.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Zbreefer

Thank you very much. You and others make this hobby much more manageable for new reefers. Thanks again.

You are most welcome. Your success is my happiness.

[dcw1sfu]

Have a 60gal mixed reef with a fairly open landscape lots of places to hide and swim for the fishies =)

My current stock list is as follows:

2 clowns
1 chromis
1 2 spot bristletooth tang
1 melanarus wrasse
1 yellow watchman goby

Everything in the tank is great and healthy. Do regular weekly water changes and skimmer is rated for well over my tank capacity.

I was thinking of adding a yellow corris wrasse or a flame angel (although worried about the angel and my corals)

Is this a possibility or am i pretty much at my tanks bioload capacity as is??

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by dcw1sfu

Have a 60gal mixed reef with a fairly open landscape lots of places to hide and swim for the fishies =)

My current stock list is as follows:

2 clowns
1 chromis
1 2 spot bristletooth tang
1 melanarus wrasse
1 yellow watchman goby

Everything in the tank is great and healthy. Do regular weekly water changes and skimmer is rated for well over my tank capacity.

I was thinking of adding a yellow corris wrasse or a flame angel (although worried about the angel and my corals)

Is this a possibility or am i pretty much at my tanks bioload capacity as is??

With one algae grazer, I would definitely not add another especially with corals to protect.

[Ambition]

Recap: 65g tank, 20 gallon long sump, 20 gallon high fuge with approximately 50pbs of rock in the display and several more in the fuge.

New list:
Centropyge pair (if my female multibar pulls through it will be a multibar pair)
Amphiprion percula pair
Escenius stigmatura
Gramma loreto trio
Serranus tortugarum pair

My main concern is the last two species on the list. Is a 65g big enough for the two groups to coexist?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Ambition

Recap: 65g tank, 20 gallon long sump, 20 gallon high fuge with approximately 50pbs of rock in the display and several more in the fuge.

New list:
Centropyge pair (if my female multibar pulls through it will be a multibar pair)
Amphiprion percula pair
Escenius stigmatura
Gramma loreto trio while gramma loretto is highly territorial, it guards a relatively small territory. IMO, a 65 is not long enough for a trio in the long run.
Serranus tortugarum pair without the G. loretto, 3 would be fine. With G. loretto, I think there will be issues.

My main concern is the last two species on the list. Is a 65g big enough for the two groups to coexist?

as indicated above

[Ambition]

Thank you, Steve. Your insight is much appreciated as always.

Based on your advice, I'm going to opt for a S. tortugarum trio in place of the G. loreto and try and get a hold of a pair flasher wrasses, and if I can't a pair of cardinalfish.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Ambition

Thank you, Steve. Your insight is much appreciated as always.

Based on your advice, I'm going to opt for a S. tortugarum trio in place of the G. loreto and try and get a hold of a pair flasher wrasses, and if I can't a pair of cardinalfish.

Well, I like S. tortugarum better in any case ignoring the behavioral issues of trying for both.

[dcw1sfu]

Originally Posted by snorvich

With one algae grazer, I would definitely not add another especially with corals to protect.

So im assuming your talking about the flame angel. How about the yellow corris wrasse?