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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by dcw1sfu

So im assuming your talking about the flame angel. How about the yellow corris wrasse?

marginally ok. You are pushing it a bit already with a tang in this sized tank.

[curnunnos]

After returning home to UK from 3 weeks in Florida, not only was i greeted with cold wet weather, but my chromis (had 2 yrs) and red spot cardinal (15months) had died. So now i need replacements

tank is 30g, fish, snails, peppermint shrimp, live rock. water quality is fine. current occupants are
- fireball angel
- silver belly wrasse
- tailspot blenny
- firefish

could i add
- green clown goby
- kuaderns cardinal
- blue chomis

what are these like for compatibility, and would the bioload be ok?

thanks for your help

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by curnunnos

After returning home to UK from 3 weeks in Florida, not only was i greeted with cold wet weather, but my chromis (had 2 yrs) and red spot cardinal (15months) had died. So now i need replacements

tank is 30g, fish, snails, peppermint shrimp, live rock. water quality is fine. current occupants are
- fireball angel
- silver belly wrasse
- tailspot blenny
- firefish

could i add clown goby or a tank bred Kauderns Cardinal would be fine
- green clown goby
- kuaderns cardinal
- blue chomis

what are these like for compatibility, and would the bioload be ok?

thanks for your help

[m0nkie]

Hello. I have a 100 gal tank with 40 gal sump. Finally decided a list of fish. Hoping I can keep them safe with my shrimps (sexy,cleaner,peppermint) and future corals

-2x Clowns (looking at Black Ice Clowns)
-Royal Gramma Basslet
-Yellow Watchman Goby + Tiger Pistol Shrimp
-Yellow Tang
-Six Line Wrass
-Black Axil Chromis
-4x Lyretail Anthias

-Green Mandarin (whenever I have an established pod colony)

Is this order ok?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by m0nkie

Hello. I have a 100 gal tank with 40 gal sump. Finally decided a list of fish. Hoping I can keep them safe with my shrimps (sexy,cleaner,peppermint) and future corals

-2x Clowns (looking at Black Ice Clowns)
-Royal Gramma Basslet
-Yellow Watchman Goby + Tiger Pistol Shrimp
-Yellow Tang
-Six Line Wrass aggressive and precludes any mandarin; I do not recommend because of aggressive behaviors
-Black Axil Chromis
-4x Lyretail Anthias

-Green Mandarin (whenever I have an established pod colony)

Is this order ok?

[Aussieiniowa]

75 gal tank with 90 lbs of live rock
5 months old

Have
Coral beauty angle
Fire fish
Royal gamma
Cleaner shrimp

Want

2 clowns. .....
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse x2

Kole tang
Singapore angel

Shrimp two to three more

Rose bulb anemone maybe two.
Clam




Clean up crew

Turbo have ...... 5



Hermits 25 have 10
Red legged hermit crabs. 5
Blue legged hermits but only a few. 5

Porcelain crab.... 2

[TripleJ21]

I currently have a 75 gallon tank that has been cycled for about two months. It has 75 pounds of live rock, a 1.5" sandbed, and two Bak-Pak 2 hang on back sumps (60 gallons recommended x2= 120 gallons of skimming). I plan to make this tank a softie/LPS reef tank and have some questions on stocking.

I currently have:

CUC:
1 Turbo snail
5 nassarius snails
10 hermit crabs (extra shells added to help prevent snail attacks)
2 red brittle starfish (eat extra food and are spot fed every other day)

Coral:
1 green/orange Zoanthid Colony (about 20 or so)
1 rock with 4 small mushrooms

I have 4 more Zoanthids on the way

Fish:
2 blue/green reef chromis

Everything in there currently looks great and the corals are showing amazing growth.


I would like:
1 pair of clownfish (Midnight Ocellaris are my personal favorite)
1 Anthias
1 Flasher and/or Fairy Wrasse (If compatibility allows)
1 Tang (Kole or Yellow)
1 Dwarf Angel (Coral Beauty or Flame Angel)

Maybe a smaller fish to add character to my tank? Or a bottom dweller after my tank gets established?

I know my bioload is most likely a bit much but I am willing to do more more water changes and even upgrade equipment as I add more.

I appreciate any and all feedback and ideas to my list and please feel free to redesign my stocking list or recommend specific species' that you have had luck with and enjoyed having!

Thanks!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Aussieiniowa

75 gal tank with 90 lbs of live rock
5 months old

Have
Coral beauty angle
Fire fish
Royal gamma
Cleaner shrimp

Want

2 clowns. ..... what species? makes a big difference
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse x2 must be male plus female

Kole tang
Singapore angel very difficult; success is unlikely

Shrimp two to three more

Rose bulb anemone maybe two.
Clam




Clean up crew

Turbo have ...... 5



Hermits 25 have 10 be aware hermits kill snails
Red legged hermit crabs. 5
Blue legged hermits but only a few. 5

Porcelain crab.... 2

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by TripleJ21

I currently have a 75 gallon tank that has been cycled for about two months. It has 75 pounds of live rock, a 1.5" sandbed, and two Bak-Pak 2 hang on back sumps (60 gallons recommended x2= 120 gallons of skimming). I plan to make this tank a softie/LPS reef tank and have some questions on stocking.

I currently have:

CUC:
1 Turbo snail
5 nassarius snails
10 hermit crabs (extra shells added to help prevent snail attacks) extra shells will not prevent snail attacks
2 red brittle starfish (eat extra food and are spot fed every other day)

Coral:
1 green/orange Zoanthid Colony (about 20 or so)
1 rock with 4 small mushrooms

I have 4 more Zoanthids on the way

Fish:
2 blue/green reef chromis will become one over time

Everything in there currently looks great and the corals are showing amazing growth.


I would like:
1 pair of clownfish (Midnight Ocellaris are my personal favorite)
1 Anthias
1 Flasher and/or Fairy Wrasse (If compatibility allows)
1 Tang (Kole or Yellow) kole is fine; yellow needs a larger tank
1 Dwarf Angel (Coral Beauty or Flame Angel) not necessarily reef safe

Maybe a smaller fish to add character to my tank? Or a bottom dweller after my tank gets established?

I know my bioload is most likely a bit much but I am willing to do more more water changes and even upgrade equipment as I add more.

I appreciate any and all feedback and ideas to my list and please feel free to redesign my stocking list or recommend specific species' that you have had luck with and enjoyed having!

Those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons; however I am always happy to reevaluate stocking plans as long as total plan and tank size is provided. Also, know that bioload is not the determining factor, behavioral compatibility is more important.

Thanks!

[PinkPunisher]

In the planning stages of upgrading a 20 long to a 40 breeder, the 20 gallon currently has no livestock other than frags and a shrimp in it but I was thinking of adding the dottyback listed below and leaving him alone in the 20 until the 40 is all set up. So here is what I was thinking stocking wise, I think I'm relatively light-medium in terms of bioload but perhaps I'm way off haha

ORA Electric Indigo Dottyback (supposedly one of the more peaceful dottybacks)
Pacific Redstripe Hogfish (Bodianus sepiacaudus or Bodianus Opercularis, not sure the difference?)
A hardy blenny of some kind to help with algae a bit, I was considering the ORA Red Sea Mimic Blenny, anybody have experience?
I've been toying with the idea of doing a pair of designer clowns but I'm not 100% on it.
or
I do really like a lot of the Halichoeres wrasse with H. claudia being one of my favourite though I'm not sure if they're size appropriate for a 40 breeder. I understand they like a deeper sand bed and can easily provide that. I also already have a 1/4" screen net made so I don't have to worry about any jumpers!

Other info about the tank consists of the 20 long becoming a sump, will run a BM Curve 5 for my skimmer, Jebao DC2000 for return, and about 32lbs of rock. Corals will be predominately SPS with some LPS and Zoas in the mix, possible a clam or two if nobody bothers them.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by PinkPunisher

In the planning stages of upgrading a 20 long to a 40 breeder, the 20 gallon currently has no livestock other than frags and a shrimp in it but I was thinking of adding the dottyback listed below and leaving him alone in the 20 until the 40 is all set up. So here is what I was thinking stocking wise, I think I'm relatively light-medium in terms of bioload but perhaps I'm way off haha

ORA Electric Indigo Dottyback (supposedly one of the more peaceful dottybacks) The most peaceful dottyback is P. fridman; the rest are on the aggressive side
Pacific Redstripe Hogfish (Bodianus sepiacaudus or Bodianus Opercularis, not sure the difference?) not shrimp safe; the dottyback will not like the fact that they are similar size and shape
A hardy blenny of some kind to help with algae a bit, I was considering the ORA Red Sea Mimic Blenny, anybody have experience? since they are a herbivore and you have a small tank, do not add any other herbivore
I've been toying with the idea of doing a pair of designer clowns but I'm not 100% on it. should be fine
or
I do really like a lot of the Halichoeres wrasse with H. claudia being one of my favourite though I'm not sure if they're size appropriate for a 40 breeder. I understand they like a deeper sand bed and can easily provide that. I also already have a 1/4" screen net made so I don't have to worry about any jumpers! also not shrimp safe

Other info about the tank consists of the 20 long becoming a sump, will run a BM Curve 5 for my skimmer, Jebao DC2000 for return, and about 32lbs of rock. Corals will be predominately SPS with some LPS and Zoas in the mix, possible a clam or two if nobody bothers them.

[PinkPunisher]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Originally Posted by PinkPunisher View Post
In the planning stages of upgrading a 20 long to a 40 breeder, the 20 gallon currently has no livestock other than frags and a shrimp in it but I was thinking of adding the dottyback listed below and leaving him alone in the 20 until the 40 is all set up. So here is what I was thinking stocking wise, I think I'm relatively light-medium in terms of bioload but perhaps I'm way off haha

ORA Electric Indigo Dottyback (supposedly one of the more peaceful dottybacks) The most peaceful dottyback is P. fridman; the rest are on the aggressive side
Pacific Redstripe Hogfish (Bodianus sepiacaudus or Bodianus Opercularis, not sure the difference?) not shrimp safe; the dottyback will not like the fact that they are similar size and shape
A hardy blenny of some kind to help with algae a bit, I was considering the ORA Red Sea Mimic Blenny, anybody have experience? since they are a herbivore and you have a small tank, do not add any other herbivore
I've been toying with the idea of doing a pair of designer clowns but I'm not 100% on it. should be fine
or
I do really like a lot of the Halichoeres wrasse with H. claudia being one of my favourite though I'm not sure if they're size appropriate for a 40 breeder. I understand they like a deeper sand bed and can easily provide that. I also already have a 1/4" screen net made so I don't have to worry about any jumpers! also not shrimp safe

Other info about the tank consists of the 20 long becoming a sump, will run a BM Curve 5 for my skimmer, Jebao DC2000 for return, and about 32lbs of rock. Corals will be predominately SPS with some LPS and Zoas in the mix, possible a clam or two if nobody bothers them.

The dottyback is actually a hybrid, Pseudochromis fridmani x sankeyi. Sankeyi is listed as peaceful on LA's site and as you stated Fridmani are known to be fairly docile.

I understand they are similar shaped (the hog and dotty) would you say they is a fair chance of these two living together? or would you suggest finding a new fish?

Blenny will be the only herbivore as you stated, just not sure if it will be able to stand up for itself with the more boisterous dottyback and hogfish?

I guess I'll just have to take my chances with the Blood shrimp, he is about 2" at this point so hopefully they'll leave him alone.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by PinkPunisher

The dottyback is actually a hybrid, Pseudochromis fridmani x sankeyi. Sankeyi is listed as peaceful on LA's site and as you stated Fridmani are known to be fairly docile.

I understand they are similar shaped (the hog and dotty) would you say they is a fair chance of these two living together? or would you suggest finding a new fish?

Blenny will be the only herbivore as you stated, just not sure if it will be able to stand up for itself with the more boisterous dottyback and hogfish?

I guess I'll just have to take my chances with the Blood shrimp, he is about 2" at this point so hopefully they'll leave him alone.

I would place the odds at 60/40 in your favor with the dottyback with regards to the hogfish. Since the blenny resides in a different ecological niche, that should not be a problem.

[m0nkie]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Originally Posted by m0nkie View Post
Hello. I have a 100 gal tank with 40 gal sump. Finally decided a list of fish. Hoping I can keep them safe with my shrimps (sexy,cleaner,peppermint) and future corals

-2x Clowns (looking at Black Ice Clowns)
-Royal Gramma Basslet
-Yellow Watchman Goby + Tiger Pistol Shrimp
-Yellow Tang
-Six Line Wrass aggressive and precludes any mandarin; I do not recommend because of aggressive behaviors
-Black Axil Chromis
-4x Lyretail Anthias

-Green Mandarin (whenever I have an established pod colony)

Is this order ok?

Can I trade the wrasse for a foxface lo? and do you think this is the max number of fish I can keep?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by m0nkie

Can I trade the wrasse for a foxface lo?

two algae grazers in this size tank is not a good idea. Remember that a Foxface that is hungry is not coral safe.


and do you think this is the max number of fish I can keep?

Originally Posted by snorvich View Post
Originally Posted by m0nkie View Post
Hello. I have a 100 gal tank with 40 gal sump. Finally decided a list of fish. Hoping I can keep them safe with my shrimps (sexy,cleaner,peppermint) and future corals

-2x Clowns (looking at Black Ice Clowns)
-Royal Gramma Basslet
-Yellow Watchman Goby + Tiger Pistol Shrimp
-Yellow Tang
-Six Line Wrass aggressive and precludes any mandarin; I do not recommend because of aggressive behaviors
-Black Axil Chromis
-4x Lyretail Anthias

-Green Mandarin (whenever I have an established pod colony)

Is this order ok?

[avandss]

Hi Snorvich,

can i mix a engineer goby with a pair of yasha goby and a candy stripe pistol?

i also read that your engineer was quite the murderer.

thank you!

Originally Posted by avandss

take 2 (sorry snorvich, my apologies for not reading the guidelines)

here is my fish list, i would like to know compatibility and introduction order for my next batch of qt fish

display 265g
sump 125g
display age 3 months
lots of flow


rock work: *not the latest pictures, i am currently in my algae bloom stage)


Snails:
5x cerith
5x nerith
5x nassarus (ADDED)
1x fighting conch (ADDED)
5x turbo (ADDED)
5x Ninja (ADDED)
5x margarita

Shrimp
2x Cleaner shrimp (ADDED)
2x Blood Shrimp
4x Peppermint shrimp
1x candy stripped pistol shrimp

crabs:
5x zebra (ADDED)
10x red scarlett
5x emerald

Star Fish:
1x Sand sifting starfish.
1x burgundy linkia starfish

Sea Urchin & invertebrates :
1x Tuxedo
1x sea hare (ADDED)

Tang’s
1x Naso Tang
1x Achillies Tang
1x Hippo (regal) Tang
1x Yellow Tang

Trigger’s
2x Blue Throat Trigger Pair

General Fish List:
1x ocellaris clownfish pair (ADDED)
5x Pyramide Butterflyfish
1x Cowfish
7x anthias Bartlett (ADDED)
10x blue reef chromis
2x Swiss guard basslet
1x Purple firefish pair
1x Yasha goby pair
1x Mandarin Pair
1x Bicolor blenny pair

Now on Saturday my clowns and anthias will be added to my DT after 6 1/2 weeks of qt (2-3 days of observation, 2 weeks prazy, 4 weeks copper)

now i need to add my second batch of fish, what do you recommend from that list?

ideally i would like to add

40 gallon long QT - 2 inch Hippo tang + 3 inch naso
20 gallon QT ??? -

Thank you

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by avandss

Hi Snorvich,

can i mix a engineer goby with a pair of yasha goby and a candy stripe pistol?

i also read that your engineer was quite the murderer.

thank you!

Actually, I provided analysis of your original plan and see nothing has changed which involves certain problems. Perhaps you would do better with general comments by posting here. I do not keep engineer gobies because they are so messy and rearrange aquascaping.

[avandss]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Actually, I provided analysis of your original plan and see nothing has changed which involves certain problems. Perhaps you would do better with general comments by posting here. I do not keep engineer gobies because they are so messy and rearrange aquascaping.

what do you mean nothing has changed with my original plan? why would i even bother asking if i did not listen, the reason i am on this site and even more on this particular thread is because i do listen, i only quoted my original post as a reference, my list has been changed based on your recommendation.

i did not want to go over it again as you told me what needed to be changed

here is my list based with your new recommendation.


display 265g
sump 125g
display age 3 months
lots of flow

Shrimp
2x Cleaner shrimp (ADDED)
2x Blood Shrimp
4x Peppermint shrimp
1x candy stripped pistol shrimp

already added
5x zebra (ADDED) cant even find them in my DT

Sea Urchin & invertebrates :
1x Tuxedo will add when tank is 12 months old
1x sea hare (ADDED) (returned to lfs) did not want to risk the ink


1x Naso Tang
1x Achillies Tang
1x Hippo (regal) Tang
1x Yellow Tang must be last fish added

General Fish List:
1x ocellaris clownfish pair (ADDED)
5x Pyramide Butterflyfish
7x anthias Bartlett (ADDED)
10x green reef chromis
2x Swiss guard basslet
1x Purple firefish
1x Yasha goby pair
1x Mandarin will add when tank is 1 year old
1x Bicolor blenny pair
7x sunbursth anthias
1x engineer goby

again i really respect everything you write on this forum, and i would like your input, so if you could please tell me your input on my new list it would be appreciated

[avandss]

Im sorry i confused you with Paul B., his engineer was the murderer not yours,

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ostid=13746936

[m0nkie]

Thanks snorvich! You have pretty much eliminated all the fish I want to add

looks like I will need to look into a future 300gallon in order to keep them

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by m0nkie

Thanks snorvich! You have pretty much eliminated all the fish I want to add

looks like I will need to look into a future 300gallon in order to keep them

LOL. That is how I ended up with a 240 gallon and a 350 gallon tank. I knew what I wanted and had to have tanks to accommodate.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by avandss

Im sorry i confused you with Paul B., his engineer was the murderer not yours,

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...ostid=13746936

PaulB and I agree on some things and are totally in disagreement on some others. But he is right about Engineer Gobies and that has been my experience as well. Your group of Reef Chromis will become one over time. In general, despite the volume of your tank, the length of the tank is not really suitable to the tangs you have planned.

[avandss]

I guess the engineer is out! Also I did not know the green and blue chromis are the same, I need to go find other species!

As for the tangs, if I take out the yellow will it be fine? Or are you saying no tangs at all?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by avandss

I guess the engineer is out! Also I did not know the green and blue chromis are the same, I need to go find other species!

As for the tangs, if I take out the yellow will it be fine? Or are you saying no tangs at all?

No, I am not saying that at all. Naso Tang and hepatus tangs need a longer tank than a seven foot tank; the yellow once established will make it difficult to add certain other fish because it is highly territorial.

[JWClark]

Set up: 125g w/ lifereef 150s w/ bioreactor, GAC, and 20" refugium--about 150g total volume before rock. Will have 1-2" sand, 150lbs rock (100 dry and 50 liverock-fiji/buna/kaelini).

Plan to be a mixed tank w/ softies and sps. Snails for CUC and cleaner shrimp.

Planned fish list:

Regal angel
Powder blue tang
Kole yellow eye tang
Green mandarin
Red mandarin (if two can be kept)
Black axil chromis (3)
Bartlett's Anthias (3)
6 line Wrasse
False percula clown (or 2)

Will set up next month and probably not start fish stocking for 6 months or so. List may change a little--still need to mesh w/ my son's list when I get home (think he wants a blenny or two). Also, was planning of getting most from liveaquaria.com.

Is this too heavy? Any order of intro suggestions (besides the tangs at the same time). Was planning the chromis and anthias first, then the regal angel before everything else).