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Unread 07/25/2014, 04:34 AM   #11601
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I've read all about how chromis kept in groups will eventually kill each other off until only one remains... I'm wondering if chances of keeping two different types - say one blue and one green - are any better than keeping a group of the same type. Tank is 75g.
not in a 75g tank.


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Unread 07/25/2014, 04:35 AM   #11602
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Neon Velvet Damsel at .75-1" in size in a 29g with the intent to get a larger tank in a few years.

Or do they grow to full size too fast for that?
very aggressive so you will be unable to add other fish


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Unread 07/25/2014, 04:42 AM   #11603
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I am completely new to the Reefing game, but have done my best to do my homework, but still would love others ideas, opinions etc on how to better my set-up. Here are my tank specs. The system has been up and running since April 15th of this year.

40Gal Tall tank with 8 Gallon Sump and 4.5 Gallon refugium. I purchased a sump without a refugium and was looking at 200 for a sump/refugium that would fit in my very tight stand. Instead I found a Hang on back CPR refugium on Craigslist for 30 dollars. So that is currently hanging on the front of my sump. that works right? Overflow runs through carbon pad, Octopus Skimmer rated for 120 gallons, and UV Sterilizer.
UV sterilzers are excellent water purifiers, but have no effect on parasites; you will still need a quarantine protocol

LEDS on the DT and refuge. Two Aqueon powerheads (950gph, 1250gph) in the DT, and a 1200 gph Maxijet return pump in the sump. There is also an additional powerhead in the sump.

The DT has about 40 pounds of live rock and a 2 inch sand bed. The refugium has a 3 inch sand bed, cheato, rubble rock, along with 3 red leg hermits.

So currently in the tank I have about 20 assorted snails, a dozen Blue leg hermits, and an emerald crab.

hermits over time will kill snails; emerald crabs when large can take fish

I just finished stocking the coral, which I chose to do first (before the fish). In the tank I have two large zoa colonies, duncans, bubble coral, pulsating Xenia will take over your tank, I advise against , Devils hand, Green Star polyps, Kenya Tree will take over your tank, I advise against , Open Brain coral, Bi-colored frogspawn, Hammer coral, mushrooms, acans, Big Green Hairy Mushrooms if they are rhodactis they can take fish , candy canes, and kryptonite candy canes. I strongly suggest you slow down
Doing an 8 Gallon water change every 30 days with catalina ocean water. acquired how?
I bought a firefish 7 days ago, and tonight I got the six-line wrasse. six line wrasses are very aggressive and will limit tank mates; I advise against, especially in this sized tank



Everything is growing at an exciting rate, so I am ready to begin stocking the livestock, here is my idea.



Firefish (possibly two, 1 purple, 1 regular) (regular is already in the tank)
Diamond Goby
Six-line Wrasse ( already in the tank)
Pair of clowns (one Black, one True Perc.)
Hawkfish not shrimp safe and depending on species, not small fish safe
Dwarf Flame Angel not coral safe and needs a larger tank
Red Tile Starfish will starve in this sized tank
Cleaner shrimp


I feel as if all of this would be overstocking, so maybe some suggestions as to what would work well in the system together would be great, as well as the order in which you would put the livestock into the system.



Sorry for the novel, but I've been waiting patiently and this is exciting stuff! which is great, but slow down

Thanks!



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not in a 75g tank.

Will choose only one then. Thanks!


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Unread 07/25/2014, 10:32 AM   #11605
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very aggressive so you will be unable to add other fish
But will it be OK in a 29g tetra and how long do you think I have before needing a bigger tank? I've tried to find the growth rate without any success.


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Unread 07/25/2014, 03:40 PM   #11606
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But will it be OK in a 29g tetra and how long do you think I have before needing a bigger tank? I've tried to find the growth rate without any success.
It will be ok for a long time as long as it is the only fish. Will it be "happy"? Probably not.


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Unread 07/25/2014, 04:34 PM   #11607
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Currently have a yellow assessor in my 75 gallon tank. Would it be possible to add a Randall's assessor? Have plenty of rock work for hiding places.


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Currently have a yellow assessor in my 75 gallon tank. Would it be possible to add a Randall's assessor? Have plenty of rock work for hiding places.
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Unread 07/25/2014, 05:49 PM   #11609
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Hi Steve,
I'm downgrading from a 140 gallon to a 30 gallon and would like to save some of my favorite fish:

2 flame hawkfish (bonded pair)
1 midas Blenny

There are some other fish listed below that I'd like to keep, but wanted to find out how many of them can be added to the 30G along with the 2 hawkfish and midas. They are listed in order of importance. At the top is my first choice down to the clowns that are less important to me.

1 royal gramma
1 bangaii cardinal fish
1 red firefish
2 ocellaris clowns

The tank is a 24" X 20" X 16"

I decided not to keep my regal angelfish or the pair of heniochus!


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Unread 07/25/2014, 06:39 PM   #11610
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Hi Steve,
I'm downgrading from a 140 gallon to a 30 gallon and would like to save some of my favorite fish:

2 flame hawkfish (bonded pair)
1 midas Blenny this fish will nip some planktivores such as firefish

There are some other fish listed below that I'd like to keep, but wanted to find out how many of them can be added to the 30G along with the 2 hawkfish and midas. They are listed in order of importance. At the top is my first choice down to the clowns that are less important to me.

1 royal gramma should be ok
1 bangaii cardinal fish should be ok
1 red firefish not with a midas blenny
2 ocellaris clowns

The tank is a 24" X 20" X 16"

I decided not to keep my regal angelfish or the pair of heniochus!



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Thanks Steve. So are you saying there is room in the 30 G for everything else excluding the firefish?

2 flame hawkfish
1 midas blenny
1 royal gramma
1 bangaii cardinal fish
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Unread 07/25/2014, 06:50 PM   #11612
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Thanks Steve. So are you saying there is room in the 30 G for everything else excluding the firefish?

2 flame hawkfish
1 midas blenny
1 royal gramma
1 bangaii cardinal fish
2 ocellaris clowns
No. Because the clownfish will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space once sexually mature, that stocking list would be too heavy.


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No. Because the clownfish will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space once sexually mature, that stocking list would be too heavy.
I forgot about that. Thanks!


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Unread 07/25/2014, 08:52 PM   #11614
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Hey Steve!

Current residents
ocellaris clown
melanurus wrasse
McCosker's wrasse
orange dartfish
tailspot blenny

Wishlist
Banggai cardinal (bonded pair?)
coral beauty OR Potter's angel
Yellow OR Kole OR tomini tang (best algae grazer?)
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Hey Steve!

Current residents
ocellaris clown
melanurus wrasse
McCosker's wrasse
orange dartfish
tailspot blenny

Wishlist
Banggai cardinal (bonded pair?) be sure it is tank bred for best odds of success
coral beauty OR Potter's angel either, potter is a bit more difficult
Yellow OR Kole OR tomini tang (best algae grazer?) Kole or tomini is best
clown goby
Stocking list should be fine


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Unread 07/26/2014, 09:08 AM   #11616
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Hello, name is Matt. About 3 months into a 90 Reef tank. Currently have a pair of clowns, fairy wrasse , skunk shrimp and some snails and hermit crabs. Also a couple of polyps. Looking for ideas for other livestock to add. I've never had saltwater before, fresh when I was a young kid. Have a buddy who help me set everything up. Right now I have about 30lbs of live rock and 50 lbs of regular. Check the water weekly with no issues. Like the little reef lobsters, also been told to look into a yellow tang or something of the sort.


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Unread 07/26/2014, 09:11 AM   #11617
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Hello, name is Matt. About 3 months into a 90 Reef tank. Currently have a pair of clowns, fairy wrasse , skunk shrimp and some snails and hermit crabs. Looking for ideas for other livestock to add. I've never had saltwater before, fresh when I was a young kid. Have a buddy who help me set everything up. Right now I have about 30lbs of live rock and 50 lbs of regular. Check the water weekly with no issues. Like the little reef lobsters, also been told to look into a yellow tang or something of the sort.
As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. However I am always happy to review stocking plans provided tank size and maturity are also provided. As far as a yellow tang is concerned, there are tangs more suitable to your sized tank


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ok, no problem. What other tangs are suitable for a 90 gallon? And from what I've been reading, reef lobsters appear to be at your own risk


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Unread 07/26/2014, 10:00 AM   #11619
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ok, no problem. What other tangs are suitable for a 90 gallon?

Reef Central's recommended tangs for tank size can be found here.

And from what I've been reading, reef lobsters appear to be at your own risk
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Unread 07/26/2014, 10:07 AM   #11620
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Great thanks, also looking into a quarantine tank, but I'll check out some other threads before I start asking questions


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Great thanks, also looking into a quarantine tank, but I'll check out some other threads before I start asking questions
An excellent idea. My blog has the quarantine protocol that I use and recommend. However I do not answer questions in this thread except about Marine Fish Compatibility.


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have a link?
If you are new to the hobby, I recommend you read all of my blog which can be found here. But if you only want the quarantine protocol, it can be found here.


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Unread 07/27/2014, 10:24 AM   #11624
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I have a 150 gallon tall (48' x 24'" x 30") been running for about 8 months. It's a mixed reef tank, with mostly lps and softies with a few sps varieties, monti caps, birdsnest / stylophora. I have a 40 gallon sump and run carbon and biopellets.
current stock List:
1 ocellaris Clown
3 lyretail anthias
1 kole tang
1 linear blenny
1 radiant wrasse
1 yellow coris wrasse
1 bengai cardinal
1 royal gramma basslet
1 tiger watchman goby
I feel like i need one more larger show fish and was thinking of a mimic surgeon fish variety (lemon peel, or half black). Would this work?


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I have a 150 gallon tall (48' x 24'" x 30") been running for about 8 months. It's a mixed reef tank, with mostly lps and softies with a few sps varieties, monti caps, birdsnest / stylophora. I have a 40 gallon sump and run carbon and biopellets.
current stock List:
1 ocellaris Clown
3 lyretail anthias
1 kole tang
1 linear blenny
1 radiant wrasse
1 yellow coris wrasse
1 bengai cardinal
1 royal gramma basslet
1 tiger watchman goby
I feel like i need one more larger show fish and was thinking of a mimic surgeon fish variety (lemon peel, or half black). Would this work?
In a 4 foot tank, I would not look to add a surgeon fish or large algae grazer. You have sufficient bioload capacity, but surgeon fish need longer tanks and for some, much longer tanks.


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