anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 47

Editour2 · 03/15/2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonSKL

Don't use that one. Someone said it has a built-in fan which makes quite a bit of noise.

I and many other are using this one. No fan and it runs cool.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You just replace the stock power supply with this and plug into the controller.

THANKs.....so it's a simple substitution and then connects into their controller?

I sent a PM to the Atlanta Reef Club's group buy organizer to see if my reef club could add to his group buy....there is a few of us that is also interested.

SimonSKL · 03/15/2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Editour2

THANKs.....so it's a simple substitution and then connects into their controller?

Yep! Simple substitution.

jmifland · 03/15/2013, 02:22 PM

I just bought two of these powerheads. Hopefully they ship out soon!

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treetopflyn · 03/15/2013, 02:40 PM

Well after a week I am happy to report all my corals are VERY happy with the WP40 and have never looked better. The is I am having is with my Green Sinularia which is now facing the back of the tank away from the current.

james-lee · 03/15/2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nightOwl

I finally took my pump out the box. I noticed the magnet is not sealed like an Tunze magnet for inside of pump? Should I be concerned about an exposed magnet?

I am actually gonna silicone mine when they come in. Wet side only of course.

Dmorty217 · 03/15/2013, 02:53 PM

I bought a MP60 and its worth every penny and then some. I won't buy MP40s because of all of the parts that need replaced. I have a Tunze 6215 wavebox and a 6205 and the 60 out does them both. There Is no way that for 85$ the quality can be there. What about stray voltage in the water? Hydor has pumps priced along these lines and the leak stray voltage into the water like crazy. I will stick with my hundreds of dollars worth pumps over something cheaper that you can never get serviced or speak to someone about operation of one

james-lee · 03/15/2013, 03:04 PM

Well, regardless of what pump you own, I highly suggest a grounding probe in both your DT in the overflow area and one in the sump. I have had 'high quality' stuff leak stray voltage so its good and safe practice either way

bhazard451 · 03/15/2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

There Is no way that for 85$ the quality can be there.

I keep hearing this from people who don't own the pump, but not from the actual owners like myself.

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Originally Posted by james-lee

Well, regardless of what pump you own, I highly suggest a grounding probe in both your DT in the overflow area and one in the sump. I have had 'high quality' stuff leak stray voltage so its good and safe practice either way

I've heard the opposite. If you're not running a GFCI with it, it can make for some dangerous scenarios.

SimonSKL · 03/15/2013, 03:29 PM

How concerned should we be with strayed volatage from a DC equipment?

DavidinGA · 03/15/2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

There Is no way that for 85$ the quality can be there.

I say the same for the $400 powerheads; no way they are worth that much.

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Frode · 03/15/2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

I bought a MP60 and its worth every penny and then some. I won't buy MP40s because of all of the parts that need replaced. I have a Tunze 6215 wavebox and a 6205 and the 60 out does them both. There Is no way that for 85$ the quality can be there. What about stray voltage in the water? Hydor has pumps priced along these lines and the leak stray voltage into the water like crazy. I will stick with my hundreds of dollars worth pumps over something cheaper that you can never get serviced or speak to someone about operation of one

You got any evindence on that? Stray voltage from this type of pump...I can hardly imagine how, without the pump failing completely in very short time. ...stray voltage from a submersed pump would mean open contact between electric parts and salt water...I can see no way it would work longer than a few seconds, if even that.

And yes... If you have spent a lot of money on streamers...this is no fun topic te read

I have got three tunze in my tank, but wp40 has shipped yesterday...

jrp1588 · 03/15/2013, 04:12 PM

In his defense, he was referring to the Koralia pumps. I used to have 3 of them, 2 of which had stray voltage problems. Interestingly though, the third, which was actually a chinese Sun-Sun ripoff of a koralia never developed this issue. I still use it to this day to mix salt water.

DOJO21 · 03/15/2013, 04:13 PM

The thead is about the pump, not your reasoning to purchase or not purchase the pump. Since you took it there. My two wp 40s will be arriving in a few days and I as well as others are happy to have found a lower cost solution to the Tunze and Vortech pumps. A little competiton never hurt anyone it usually ends up making ALL the products better and cheaper in the long run. Why are SO many vortech users against this pump? Just because you felt the need to purchase the "HOLY GRAIL" of pumps? for the price that you paid for 1 mp60 I can purchase about 9 of these. For that reason I could care less about customer service. So if it last for only 1yr. im willing to trash it and throw the next one and im positive in the next few years there will be improvements made to this pump,and if It last longer I will consider myself ahead.

nightOwl · 03/15/2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by james-lee

I am actually gonna silicone mine when they come in. Wet side only of course.

james-lee - Are you going to just use regular silicone? I thought silicone and plastic do not do well for long?

james-lee · 03/15/2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bhazard451

I keep hearing this from people who don't own the pump, but not from the actual owners like myself.

I've heard the opposite. If you're not running a GFCI with it, it can make for some dangerous scenarios.

Correct sir and yes I have a dedicated power line with GFCI

james-lee · 03/15/2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nightOwl

james-lee - Are you going to just use regular silicone? I thought silicone and plastic do not do well for long?

Aquarium safe silicone. I dont know about that if it is true it would be a long time if anything happens.

jtomasi · 03/15/2013, 05:22 PM

So the magnet is exposed on all pumps?

nightOwl · 03/15/2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jtomasi

So the magnet is exposed on all pumps?

jtomasi - The magnet that sits behind the suction cup area is not sealed. But after taking the pump apart the propeller looks like a giant Maxi-jet propeller and that is direct contact with the water as well so it is probably not an issue. Not sure it was my pump or not but the rubber part comes off pretty easily and the magnet is visible.

james-lee - After further inspection I think I may not need to seal it.

Suction cup removed

IMG_3441 by LifeThrough_TheLense, on Flickr

treetopflyn · 03/15/2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidinGA

I say the same for the $400 powerheads; no way they are worth that much.

I agree

SPotter · 03/15/2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nightOwl

jtomasi - The magnet that sits behind the suction cup area is not sealed. But after taking the pump apart the propeller looks like a giant Maxi-jet propeller and that is direct contact with the water as well so it is probably not an issue. Not sure it was my pump or not but the rubber part comes off pretty easily and the magnet is visible.

james-lee - After further inspection I think I may not need to seal it.

Suction cup removed

IMG_3441 by LifeThrough_TheLense, on Flickr

Put the camera down Henry and fire that puppy up already!!!!

SeedlessOne · 03/15/2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmorty217

I bought a MP60 and its worth every penny and then some. I won't buy MP40s because of all of the parts that need replaced. I have a Tunze 6215 wavebox and a 6205 and the 60 out does them both. There Is no way that for 85$ the quality can be there. What about stray voltage in the water? Hydor has pumps priced along these lines and the leak stray voltage into the water like crazy. I will stick with my hundreds of dollars worth pumps over something cheaper that you can never get serviced or speak to someone about operation of one

Oh brother. It's okay. I bought a vortech as well. I fell ripped off just like you. My jebo blows my vortech out of the water.

nightOwl · 03/15/2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SPotter

Put the camera down Henry and fire that puppy up already!!!!

Steve - It goes in the water tomorrow. I wanted to make sure the magnet thing was OK. I have already blocked out some testing time

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dlondono · 03/15/2013, 08:37 PM

The minute they sell the wp25 I am buying two of them.

james-lee · 03/15/2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nightOwl

jtomasi - The magnet that sits behind the suction cup area is not sealed. But after taking the pump apart the propeller looks like a giant Maxi-jet propeller and that is direct contact with the water as well so it is probably not an issue. Not sure it was my pump or not but the rubber part comes off pretty easily and the magnet is visible.

james-lee - After further inspection I think I may not need to seal it.

Suction cup removed

IMG_3441 by LifeThrough_TheLense, on Flickr

Sweet!

ashish · 03/16/2013, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bhazard451

There hasn't been much innovation in power heads for years. Its about time someone challenged the two main players with something new, at a very reasonable price. Its exciting in what was otherwise a stagnant market.

I always hear about all these marketing costs, but how many tunze or ecotech commercials do you see? I've been reefing for years, yet I wouldn't even know where to even find a marketing piece from either company, nor care.

You will get better warranty service for sure, but when a wet side replacement costs as much as one of these pumps, does it matter? If these pumps die quickly, then yes it will, but if they last....

If these pumps remain solid and don't fail quickly, they will start becoming widespread just like the good Chinese LEDs. The popularity of these pumps and the Chinese LEDs only exist because of the absurd pricing of the other players in the market. They are filling a void which has been there for quite awhile, and it was only a matter of time before someone seized the opportunity.

Agreed. I bought a tunze nano stream for my tank (not controllable) just because all the top reefers had Tunze. It burned up with in 3 months and pretty much killed my SPS at the time. Not that I had a chance getting into sps but that sure did not help. LIke an idiot i threw it in the garbage since i usually dispose of the warrantie receipts so no one see its.,lol I rather spend less and replace these pumps (or use them as back-ups) after 2 years then have 1 vortech last me 10 years. I've purchased chinese product before but I just hope these pumps are reliable when im away

03/15/2013, 02:40 PM	#1154
treetopflyn Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,580	Well after a week I am happy to report all my corals are VERY happy with the WP40 and have never looked better. The is I am having is with my Green Sinularia which is now facing the back of the tank away from the current. __________________ 105 Gallon Reef Savvy (48"x 24"X 21") Glass Holes overflow, 29G sump, Mag 12 return, Reef Octopus 150, 2- Jebo WP-25s, Phosoban reactor, 2 Ai Sol Blue's controlled by Reef Angle Controller.

03/15/2013, 03:04 PM	#1157
james-lee Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rialto Posts: 383	Well, regardless of what pump you own, I highly suggest a grounding probe in both your DT in the overflow area and one in the sump. I have had 'high quality' stuff leak stray voltage so its good and safe practice either way __________________ 200 gallon cube newly built. Current Tank Info: 48x40x24 Visio

03/15/2013, 03:29 PM	#1159
SimonSKL Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Danville, IL Posts: 1,918	How concerned should we be with strayed volatage from a DC equipment? __________________ Simon Mixed LPS and SPS corals Camera - Canon T2i with EF100mm 2.8f USM macro lens Current Tank Info: AG 92g corner tank and Marineland 125g, RKE controllers, Maxspect and Eshine LEDs, MP40WES, Jebo WP40 & WP25

03/15/2013, 08:37 PM	#1173
dlondono Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 104	wp25 The minute they sell the wp25 I am buying two of them. __________________ Diego Current Tank Info: 200g

03/15/2013, 02:22 PM	#1153
jmifland Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 251	I just bought two of these powerheads. Hopefully they ship out soon! Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 using Tapatalk 2

03/15/2013, 02:53 PM	#1156
Dmorty217 Saltwater Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Vandalia OHIO Posts: 11,624	I bought a MP60 and its worth every penny and then some. I won't buy MP40s because of all of the parts that need replaced. I have a Tunze 6215 wavebox and a 6205 and the 60 out does them both. There Is no way that for 85$ the quality can be there. What about stray voltage in the water? Hydor has pumps priced along these lines and the leak stray voltage into the water like crazy. I will stick with my hundreds of dollars worth pumps over something cheaper that you can never get serviced or speak to someone about operation of one

03/15/2013, 04:12 PM	#1162
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	In his defense, he was referring to the Koralia pumps. I used to have 3 of them, 2 of which had stray voltage problems. Interestingly though, the third, which was actually a chinese Sun-Sun ripoff of a koralia never developed this issue. I still use it to this day to mix salt water.

03/15/2013, 04:13 PM	#1163
DOJO21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 39	The thead is about the pump, not your reasoning to purchase or not purchase the pump. Since you took it there. My two wp 40s will be arriving in a few days and I as well as others are happy to have found a lower cost solution to the Tunze and Vortech pumps. A little competiton never hurt anyone it usually ends up making ALL the products better and cheaper in the long run. Why are SO many vortech users against this pump? Just because you felt the need to purchase the "HOLY GRAIL" of pumps? for the price that you paid for 1 mp60 I can purchase about 9 of these. For that reason I could care less about customer service. So if it last for only 1yr. im willing to trash it and throw the next one and im positive in the next few years there will be improvements made to this pump,and if It last longer I will consider myself ahead.

03/15/2013, 05:22 PM	#1167
jtomasi Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 110	So the magnet is exposed on all pumps?