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[Aquarist007]

Originally Posted by kimmi.kim

Hi, i have a 46gallon tank with only 2 clownfish and 2 gbta for a year now. the tank has been up and running for 2 years. i have alot of hair algae growth and since i want to add some fish in, i was thinking of adding some algae eating fish.
maybe a 'lemon peel angel' or a 'rainford goby' ? which is better at algae eating and will get along with my 2 clowns? any other algae eating fish suggestions that will fit in my tank?
thanks!

a foxface is a great algae eater as is a coral beauty angel.

[theyammieguy]

Originally Posted by theyammieguy

Can I get an opinion or advice on this list.
40g breeder(actually 44g), 40g breeder sump/fuge, with bubble magus NAC6 skimmer. My live rock will consist of about 40 pounds of marco rock. Probably one tower on either end of the tank with an arch connecting the two.
2 false percs
1 flame hawkfish
1 orange spotted lawnmower blenny or diamond goby
2 banggai cardinals
3 green chromis
1 or 2 tiny blue hippo tang

Can I have both the goby and blenny or do I need to chose one or the either?

[Korrine]

I think they would be fine to go together. One eats algea throughout the tank and the other sifts sand on the bottom. There is a recent thread somewhere about a diamond goby making a mess of fish tanks. Might try to do a search and read about it if you want to.

[Korrine]

Originally Posted by capn_hylinur

a foxface is a great algae eater as is a coral beauty angel.

Capn. How long would you suggest to leave a foxface in a 46g? I've read that they are slow growers.

[theyammieguy]

Will do, thanks. I'm not going to put the tang in there.

Besides my list, what kind of list would you come up with?

[megatsea]

Does the high fin goby need to have a deep sand bed or create sand storms...my tank is now downsized to a 20 g, less then an inch to 2 inches in places....30lbs LR .
I am fishless at the moment and have tons of pods.

[Korrine]

Originally Posted by theyammieguy

Will do, thanks. I'm not going to put the tang in there.

Besides my list, what kind of list would you come up with?

mmm now you have to make me really think....and on a snow day

Have you thought about the fairy wrasses? Very beautiful fish and reef safe

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fi.../cirrhilabrus/

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-06/ft/index.php

[eidillitih]

Originally Posted by mortis13

hello all,
at last my first tank has started and im on way
its a 180gal reef (i hope) and i would like to include the following;
7 x blue/green chromis
2 x black clowns
2 x scissortail gobies
1 x flame angel
1 x coral beauty

my main concern is about the tanks capacity, can i have more than this if so how many? is this considered a light bio load? i dont want the tank stressed. there will be 90% LPS only.

no, your understock right now. That would only be about 13-17inches of fish, which is considered to be understock for a 180. If you use a 1in of fish for every 5 gallon ratio. If you add the two angels, MAKE SURE YOU ADD THEM AT THE SAME TIME. It will not work otherwise.

Good Luck

[Korrine]

Originally Posted by eidillitih

no, your understock right now. That would only be about 13-17inches of fish, which is considered to be understock for a 180. If you use a 1in of fish for every 5 gallon ratio. If you add the two angels, MAKE SURE YOU ADD THEM AT THE SAME TIME. It will not work otherwise.

Good Luck

mmmm I don't like to use the inch of gallon rules. Especially for different kinds of fish. Carnivores put out more waste than herbivores and variations need to be considered more than the inch of fish, imo.

[theyammieguy]

Yeah, they are pretty. What's the most fish I could safely keep? I would like a lot of small fish.

[Korrine]

I'd say 6 or so. But you might be able to do more with all that water volume. How full is the sump and do you plan on LR in it w/a dsb or cheato?

The problem comes into play when there are so many fish that system is overloaded with nutrients(as well as shear swimming room and territoriality). You have to find the balance for your system. Start adding a few fish from least aggressive to most aggressive and if you start getting water quality issues, you know when/where to stop.

[theyammieguy]

Well, its not setup yet but yes, I will have LR, DSB and cheato in the sump. The skimmer I plan to use is rated well over the total volume of my setup.

[eidillitih]

Originally Posted by Korrine

mmmm I don't like to use the inch of gallon rules. Especially for different kinds of fish. Carnivores put out more waste than herbivores and variations need to be considered more than the inch of fish, imo.

Yea, 1in of fish per 5 gal. is a good rule of thumb for beginner. It give them an IDEA of what is too much. Of course their are variable that you must take into account: like the actual amount of tank water, type of fish, type of skimmer, etc.

[kimmi.kim]

Originally Posted by capn_hylinur

a foxface is a great algae eater as is a coral beauty angel.

Thanks capn! yea i was also concerned if a foxface would be too big for my 46g tank...and are they hard to keep, i'm kinda concerned about them being venomous..

[sunnyday]

Originally Posted by theyammieguy

Well, its not setup yet but yes, I will have LR, DSB and cheato in the sump. The skimmer I plan to use is rated well over the total volume of my setup.

Good planning on the skimmer! It is all too often people push the limit of their skimmer and they pay the price later with poor water quality and unhealthy livestock.

[Korrine]

Originally Posted by kimmi.kim

Thanks capn! yea i was also concerned if a foxface would be too big for my 46g tank...and are they hard to keep, i'm kinda concerned about them being venomous..

I don't think they are hard to keep, but can be good indicators of water quality. They will darken and lose color if water is not up to par or if they are stressed.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/rabbitfi.htm

[kimmi.kim]

Originally Posted by capn_hylinur

a foxface is a great algae eater as is a coral beauty angel.

I forgot to ask... if i decide to get a coral beauty angel, would it get along with my clowns and anemones? the clowns have been in there for a year by themselves and they are pretty territorial... would the angel be ok in there? also are the angels reef safe? thanks!

[Korrine]

These angels have a decent track record of being mostly reef safe. However, it's a 50/50 chance. You could get an angel or you could get a demon.

[spatten]

Originally Posted by spatten

First Time aquarium owner here. Looking for comments on my fish-plan.

The setup is 55 gallon tank, with Marine Land Magnum 350 Canister Filter, and HOB Superskimmer 65gallon. 50 lbs Live Rock.

Since I've never cared for fish I wanted to start easy and add inverts/corals later.

Planned fish (in planned order):

2 Common Clown
3 Blue-green Chromis
1 Yellow Tang (realize he is borderline)
1 Flame Angel or Coral Beauty.

Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Scott

Sorry to repost - but I think it may have gotten lost. Or maybe I have missed the protocol for questions here?

[Korrine]

Originally Posted by spatten

Sorry to repost - but I think it may have gotten lost. Or maybe I have missed the protocol for questions here?

sounds fine.

[Aquarist007]

Originally Posted by Korrine

These angels have a decent track record of being mostly reef safe. However, it's a 50/50 chance. You could get an angel or you could get a demon.

Korrine I think the 50 50 chance with a coral beauty is regarding the possibility of them nipping at corals. Dwarf angels are usually agressive towards other dwarf angels but not other fish

[Aquarist007]

Originally Posted by kimmi.kim

Thanks capn! yea i was also concerned if a foxface would be too big for my 46g tank...and are they hard to keep, i'm kinda concerned about them being venomous..

I have foxface that eat right from my hand. I suppose the venome which is in their dorsal fins might be a problem if you banged your hand into one by accident but they certainly are not agressive enough fish to be attacking you or other fish.

[Aquarist007]

Originally Posted by spatten

Sorry to repost - but I think it may have gotten lost. Or maybe I have missed the protocol for questions here?

You should really start with a clean up crew such as hermit crabs, snails, bristle stars. Necessarius snails live in the substrate and keep that clean and unclumped for other inverts.

Your fish list is good however remember that it is not a good idea to put more than one dwarf angel in your tank.

[monotreme_man]

generally, i am pretty happy with my fish community but am considering adding
two purple firefish. does anyone forsee any problems? i have a 200gal tank with

hippo tang, yellow tang, yellow-eye tang, sailfin tang
mccoskers fairy wrasse
3 bartletts anthias
coral beauty
flame angel
tailspot goby, hectors goby
green mandarin dragonette
lawnmower blenny
pair of perculas

[kimmi.kim]

Thanks everyone! i think im gonna go with the coral beauty angel. they are such beautiful fish! I called my LFS and they said they might have stock coming in this morning. Now i just have to set up my QT tank