Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product - Page 49

sfboarders · 02/11/2011, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary faulkner

I need to run about 2 litres of the pellets. What would be a good choice of reactor to run a large amount of pellets?

Thanks in Advance

Check out the Avast reactors. I bought the MR5 18" and the quality is great and made in the US. Doesn't take much to tumble 500ml of ecobaks.

campos · 02/11/2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

MR1 is the best one i have found so far and I tried a few! Priced right and comes with it's own pump
Bill

My MR1 did not come with a pump. What's up with that. I do agree though NextReef MR1 is the best reactor i've come across hands down. Superb quality.

TheFishMan65 · 02/11/2011, 07:45 AM

+1 on the Avast. I have an early model it does fine with the pellets. I seemed that people were leaning toward an inverted dome at the bottom the KW300 was cheap way to get that.

bayoupr · 02/11/2011, 06:35 PM

When running these pellets do you have to direct the output of the reactor to the skimmer inlet? I just had a bad experience with another brand doing this. Completely knock down my foam head while I was offshore. My wife said the skimmer was like that for 4 days. I turned my reactor off and my skimmer picked up within five minutes.

milkman55 · 02/11/2011, 07:51 PM

I have my reactor return directed back to the skimmer intake. It doesn't seem to affect the foam head on my Octo SRO skimmer. You might give it some time to acclimate to the change. Warner Marine recommends you discharge next to the skimmer inlet.

Is the discharge changing the stability of the water level around the skimmer?

bayoupr · 02/11/2011, 08:21 PM

I was using a different brand and was wondering about the warner brand. Has anyone experience this with the Warner brand? When I took my pump apart the pinwheel was coated with a heavy slime, and I mean heavy. I can see why it stop producing. My tank clouded up (which I have heard happens to some and not to others) my leathers look like sh*t right now and my mushrooms are not in full bloom like normal. Fish are OK.

poolkeeper1 · 02/11/2011, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayoupr

I was using a different brand and was wondering about the warner brand. Has anyone experience this with the Warner brand? When I took my pump apart the pinwheel was coated with a heavy slime, and I mean heavy. I can see why it stop producing. My tank clouded up (which I have heard happens to some and not to others) my leathers look like sh*t right now and my mushrooms are not in full bloom like normal. Fish are OK.

Sounds like you are getting the bacterial bloom that some experiance when using the pellets! That being said are you using the reccomended amount or More/Less? than they suggest to start with. Also the amount of flow may be too high or too low just no way of being 100% sure why you are having these issues. IME stick with it as it works very well for me and it's no effort at all on my part!
Bill

drummereef · 02/12/2011, 02:17 AM

Hey guys, is there an optimal Alk range while using ecoBAK? I'm currently running 9.5 dkh and wondering if there might be any detrimental effects while running the bio pellets.

bayoupr · 02/12/2011, 07:00 AM

My flow was good when I left and then they clumped up while I was gone. I used a little less than the stated dosage. I also pre soaked the pellets for about 30hrs.

Buganddoug · 02/12/2011, 07:23 AM

When new they do clumped up. All you need to do is shack them up or turn up the flow. As bacteria starts to eat the pellets you will get less of this. Do the pellets have room to move around in the reactor? I have seen some people with very little room to no room at all for movement and they will clumped up. If you use snow they also makes them clumped up. All I do is shack my reactor and I am good to go.

gary faulkner · 02/12/2011, 09:23 AM

I want to thank everyone who gave advice on using a large reactor. johnnyb05, TheFishMan65, poolkeeper1, JasonD, sfboarders and campos.

I'm still back and forth on pulling the trigger on the pellets but I'm a lot closer now. Thanks again guys, much appreciated.

TheFishMan65 · 02/12/2011, 01:23 PM

Not sure I should be included on that list

. I just repeated what I had read here there and other places. However, I can now say that Ihave been runnning them for a month. Still look like they did when new. About 300ml on a 75 wth a 40 gallon sump.

lilmonster · 02/12/2011, 02:50 PM

I've been running it for about a month now too,
I've noticed that the nusiance alge looks really brown and ugly,
and my skimmer is pulling some nasty stuff out now.

gary faulkner · 02/12/2011, 04:58 PM

How many of you guys are dosing bacteria along with the pellets? Good idea or bad? What's your thoughts on this aspect?

TIA

lilmonster · 02/12/2011, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary faulkner

How many of you guys are dosing bacteria along with the pellets? Good idea or bad? What's your thoughts on this aspect?

TIA

I didn't, I figured i had enough in there to get it started.

drummereef · 02/12/2011, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary faulkner

How many of you guys are dosing bacteria along with the pellets? Good idea or bad? What's your thoughts on this aspect?

TIA

I'm dosing MB7. At least in my tank, which was all Marco Rock and dry sand. I recommend it highly at least in my situation.

drummereef · 02/12/2011, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drummereef

Hey guys, is there an optimal Alk range while using ecoBAK? I'm currently running 9.5 dkh and wondering if there might be any detrimental effects while running the bio pellets.

Anyone??

poolkeeper1 · 02/13/2011, 12:54 AM

Seems the consenses is as close to NSW as possible (7.5-8.5) range is what i am hearing and reading on most all the boards and threads. That being said mine is doing great at around 8.0-8.5 on average.
Bill

josh_tn · 02/13/2011, 09:48 AM

I started my Ecobak journey last night. 1000 mL in a 180. I'm running them in a BRS dual reactor but I'm not able to get much tumbling. There's a little movement, mostly channeling, but definitely not tumbling. My tank is finally having good success so hopefully I won't have any problems from the pellets.

Took a few initial measurements before I started.
Alk - 8.79 (Hanna checker)
Phosphate - .043 ppm (14 ppb Hanna phosphorus checker converted to ppm)
Calcium - 460 (API)
Nitrate - 0 (API - not much low range on the API kit. 0 or 5 ppm are the first 2 choices)

I am also running a single BRS reactor of GFO. Hopefully down the road, I will be able to phase this out.

-Josh

poolkeeper1 · 02/13/2011, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh_tn

I started my Ecobak journey last night. 1000 mL in a 180. I'm running them in a BRS dual reactor but I'm not able to get much tumbling. There's a little movement, mostly channeling, but definitely not tumbling. My tank is finally having good success so hopefully I won't have any problems from the pellets.

Took a few initial measurements before I started.
Alk - 8.79 (Hanna checker)
Phosphate - .043 ppm (14 ppb Hanna phosphorus checker converted to ppm)
Calcium - 460 (API)
Nitrate - 0 (API - not much low range on the API kit. 0 or 5 ppm are the first 2 choices)

I am also running a single BRS reactor of GFO. Hopefully down the road, I will be able to phase this out.

-Josh

Hey Josh, After I think 8-9 months of using EB without any GFO my Phosphate averages around 0.36PPM or 12PPB Hanna Checker. It will get lower on occasion and sometimes higher but IME this is about what you will see in the long term using EB When it Matures Bacterial wise and becomes effective. It took 4-5 months before i actually pulled the GFO and then the EB took over as i have around 25 fish in my little 105 gal and feed Anthias 4-5 times a day without any ill effects. Good luck and just be patience.
Bill

drummereef · 02/13/2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

Seems the consenses is as close to NSW as possible (7.5-8.5) range is what i am hearing and reading on most all the boards and threads. That being said mine is doing great at around 8.0-8.5 on average.
Bill

Thanks Bill. Is there any science or reason behind keeping the alk at these levels? Is it just because the corals become more sensitive to higher alk in a ULNS environment?

gary faulkner · 02/13/2011, 08:32 PM

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7#post18335977

Check out this thread. and others as well, everyone says about 7-8 dkh

HTH

drummereef · 02/14/2011, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary faulkner

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7#post18335977

Check out this thread. and others as well, everyone says about 7-8 dkh

HTH

Thank you Gary.

poolkeeper1 · 02/14/2011, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drummereef

Thanks Bill. Is there any science or reason behind keeping the alk at these levels? Is it just because the corals become more sensitive to higher alk in a ULNS environment?

I'm not sure if it matters or not all i know is if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Bill

drummereef · 02/14/2011, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

I'm not sure if it matters or not all i know is if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Bill

Gotcha.

02/12/2011, 02:17 AM	#1208
drummereef Team RC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: STL Posts: 14,754	Hey guys, is there an optimal Alk range while using ecoBAK? I'm currently running 9.5 dkh and wondering if there might be any detrimental effects while running the bio pellets. __________________ -Brett 180g Marineland Starfire In-Wall 278 gallon system

02/12/2011, 07:23 AM	#1210
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	When new they do clumped up. All you need to do is shack them up or turn up the flow. As bacteria starts to eat the pellets you will get less of this. Do the pellets have room to move around in the reactor? I have seen some people with very little room to no room at all for movement and they will clumped up. If you use snow they also makes them clumped up. All I do is shack my reactor and I am good to go. __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

02/12/2011, 09:23 AM	#1211
gary faulkner Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,468	I want to thank everyone who gave advice on using a large reactor. johnnyb05, TheFishMan65, poolkeeper1, JasonD, sfboarders and campos. I'm still back and forth on pulling the trigger on the pellets but I'm a lot closer now. Thanks again guys, much appreciated. __________________ Gary Current Tank Info: 300G SPS

02/12/2011, 02:50 PM	#1213
lilmonster Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 324	I've been running it for about a month now too, I've noticed that the nusiance alge looks really brown and ugly, and my skimmer is pulling some nasty stuff out now. __________________ Gary Wiens Computer Guy Free PC Tech Support for all forum members Current Tank Info: 80gl reef tank, 10gl mini reef, 20gl fuge, 29gl sump

02/12/2011, 04:58 PM	#1214
gary faulkner Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,468	How many of you guys are dosing bacteria along with the pellets? Good idea or bad? What's your thoughts on this aspect? TIA __________________ Gary Current Tank Info: 300G SPS

02/11/2011, 07:45 AM	#1203
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	+1 on the Avast. I have an early model it does fine with the pellets. I seemed that people were leaning toward an inverted dome at the bottom the KW300 was cheap way to get that.

02/11/2011, 06:35 PM	#1204
bayoupr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,308	When running these pellets do you have to direct the output of the reactor to the skimmer inlet? I just had a bad experience with another brand doing this. Completely knock down my foam head while I was offshore. My wife said the skimmer was like that for 4 days. I turned my reactor off and my skimmer picked up within five minutes.

02/11/2011, 07:51 PM	#1205
milkman55 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Parkville, MO Posts: 832	I have my reactor return directed back to the skimmer intake. It doesn't seem to affect the foam head on my Octo SRO skimmer. You might give it some time to acclimate to the change. Warner Marine recommends you discharge next to the skimmer inlet. Is the discharge changing the stability of the water level around the skimmer?

02/11/2011, 08:21 PM	#1206
bayoupr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,308	I was using a different brand and was wondering about the warner brand. Has anyone experience this with the Warner brand? When I took my pump apart the pinwheel was coated with a heavy slime, and I mean heavy. I can see why it stop producing. My tank clouded up (which I have heard happens to some and not to others) my leathers look like sh*t right now and my mushrooms are not in full bloom like normal. Fish are OK.

02/12/2011, 07:00 AM	#1209
bayoupr Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,308	My flow was good when I left and then they clumped up while I was gone. I used a little less than the stated dosage. I also pre soaked the pellets for about 30hrs.

02/12/2011, 01:23 PM	#1212
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	Not sure I should be included on that list . I just repeated what I had read here there and other places. However, I can now say that Ihave been runnning them for a month. Still look like they did when new. About 300ml on a 75 wth a 40 gallon sump.

02/13/2011, 12:54 AM	#1218
poolkeeper1 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spring Hill, TN Posts: 4,674	Seems the consenses is as close to NSW as possible (7.5-8.5) range is what i am hearing and reading on most all the boards and threads. That being said mine is doing great at around 8.0-8.5 on average. Bill

02/13/2011, 09:48 AM	#1219
josh_tn Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tullahoma, TN Posts: 231	I started my Ecobak journey last night. 1000 mL in a 180. I'm running them in a BRS dual reactor but I'm not able to get much tumbling. There's a little movement, mostly channeling, but definitely not tumbling. My tank is finally having good success so hopefully I won't have any problems from the pellets. Took a few initial measurements before I started. Alk - 8.79 (Hanna checker) Phosphate - .043 ppm (14 ppb Hanna phosphorus checker converted to ppm) Calcium - 460 (API) Nitrate - 0 (API - not much low range on the API kit. 0 or 5 ppm are the first 2 choices) I am also running a single BRS reactor of GFO. Hopefully down the road, I will be able to phase this out. -Josh

02/13/2011, 08:32 PM	#1222
gary faulkner Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,468	http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7#post18335977 Check out this thread. and others as well, everyone says about 7-8 dkh HTH __________________ Gary Current Tank Info: 300G SPS

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