My Custom Sump! - Page 5

Reef Reactor · 06/28/2013, 04:28 PM

Great sump !!

I have a question, what are you doing to do not receive any bubble from the overflow of your tank?

Snausy · 06/28/2013, 09:34 PM

I've been using a Herbie overflow for awhile now.I would never go back. Full siphon means no air and no noise.

Clownin Aroun · 06/29/2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Snausy

I've been using a Herbie overflow for awhile now.I would never go back. Full siphon means no air and no noise.

What he said lol

Reef Reactor · 06/29/2013, 09:34 AM

Where can i see that herbie overflow?

Miami Danny · 06/29/2013, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kurfer

This is a work of art!

Clownin, Could you put the dimensions of the built sump, as the distance of each vertical sheet and baffles, I'm in the process of building one and really a like this setup, mine will be 48 long but not sure about the filter socks areas since I have never ran them before, once again awesome sump.

Clownin Aroun · 06/30/2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Clownin Aroun

Here are a couple of the drawings that i made for my sump.

Miami Danny · 07/01/2013, 07:02 PM

How do you like it so far! I was wondering how often do you change out the filter socks?

acesq · 07/02/2013, 11:12 AM

For all you sump designers out there, why is the convention to have the middle baffle in a bubble trap higher than the end baffles? Wouldn't it work just as well to have the middle baffle touching the bottom and the two outer baffles raised an inch or so? This would force the water under the first baffle, and allowing bubbles to burst at the surface. With an overflow first baffle it seems even fairly large bubbles get pulled over with the water flow. Certainly some microbubbles will get pulled under the first baffle, but they still have to travel over one then under another baffle.

And, it would certainly be alot easier to clean between the baffles.

shamus · 07/05/2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by acesq

For all you sump designers out there, why is the convention to have the middle baffle in a bubble trap higher than the end baffles? Wouldn't it work just as well to have the middle baffle touching the bottom and the two outer baffles raised an inch or so? This would force the water under the first baffle, and allowing bubbles to burst at the surface. With an overflow first baffle it seems even fairly large bubbles get pulled over with the water flow. Certainly some microbubbles will get pulled under the first baffle, but they still have to travel over one then under another baffle.

And, it would certainly be alot easier to clean between the baffles.

I would like to know also. Is there any reason for the two outer baffles to be on the bottom?

Clownin Aroun · 07/05/2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shamus

I would like to know also. Is there any reason for the two outer baffles to be on the bottom?

you want the middle baffle the taller because you want the water to have to surface as many times as possible. If the ends are higher then the last one would be useless since the water would just go right under it and into the return pump.
This way it has to go over the last baffle then back down to the return pump. It forces the water up and over two baffles instead of just one. Micro bubbles are removed best when the water HAS to surface, which is why over two and under one is better.

If that makes sense! Lol. I hope so!

wbrinker · 07/05/2013, 06:11 PM

Do plan on using 4" socks?

shamus · 07/05/2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clownin Aroun

you want the middle baffle the taller because you want the water to have to surface as many times as possible. If the ends are higher then the last one would be useless since the water would just go right under it and into the return pump.
This way it has to go over the last baffle then back down to the return pump. It forces the water up and over two baffles instead of just one. Micro bubbles are removed best when the water HAS to surface, which is why over two and under one is better.

If that makes sense! Lol. I hope so!

Makes sense to me. Thanks. Your sump is the best I have seen! I hope to get one someday.

Clownin Aroun · 07/05/2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wbrinker

Do plan on using 4" socks?

Yes i am using 4 inch socks

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Originally Posted by shamus

Makes sense to me. Thanks. Your sump is the best I have seen! I hope to get one someday.

thanks a lot!!! and good luck to you!

cu0ngsayz · 07/05/2013, 08:20 PM

Very nice sumps!!!!!

scarface70706 · 07/05/2013, 08:44 PM

WOW! that is one awesome sump. now i know what sump i want when i upgrade to a 180g in the our next move. thank you for sharing.

lovewell · 07/07/2013, 02:59 AM

Do you have any shots of the sump up and running now. Just curious how the fuge is working out for you.

Clownin Aroun · 07/07/2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lovewell

Do you have any shots of the sump up and running now. Just curious how the fuge is working out for you.

Still do not have the fuge running......dont need it yet, may never make it a fuge.

artarmon42 · 07/07/2013, 12:24 PM

Wow really nice and clean!

Doesnt seem like elite aquatics are doing custom sumps anymore.
Anyone else building customs sumps with this type of quality?

H.reidi.MN · 07/28/2013, 11:18 AM

Thanks for that baffle explanation.. I've always seen and thought the under 2 over one before the return was better for trapping bubbles as they get stuck in the tiny chamber going over the middle of the 3 baffles ?

06/28/2013, 09:34 PM	#102
Snausy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 907	I've been using a Herbie overflow for awhile now.I would never go back. Full siphon means no air and no noise. __________________ A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 300gal FOWLR- Emperor Angel, Rainbow Wrasse, Green Bird Wrasse, Dogface Puffer, Niger Trigger, Flame Hawkfish, Matted Filefish 150 Turbosnails that only come out at night! :D

07/02/2013, 11:12 AM	#108
acesq Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Calabasas, CA Posts: 1,501	For all you sump designers out there, why is the convention to have the middle baffle in a bubble trap higher than the end baffles? Wouldn't it work just as well to have the middle baffle touching the bottom and the two outer baffles raised an inch or so? This would force the water under the first baffle, and allowing bubbles to burst at the surface. With an overflow first baffle it seems even fairly large bubbles get pulled over with the water flow. Certainly some microbubbles will get pulled under the first baffle, but they still have to travel over one then under another baffle. And, it would certainly be alot easier to clean between the baffles. __________________ Current tank: 340g AGE peninsula

06/28/2013, 04:28 PM	#101
Reef Reactor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Mexico city Posts: 180	Great sump !! I have a question, what are you doing to do not receive any bubble from the overflow of your tank?

06/29/2013, 09:34 AM	#104
Reef Reactor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Mexico city Posts: 180	Where can i see that herbie overflow?

07/01/2013, 07:02 PM	#107
Miami Danny Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Miami, fl Posts: 56	How do you like it so far! I was wondering how often do you change out the filter socks?

07/05/2013, 06:11 PM	#111
wbrinker Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 49	Do plan on using 4" socks?

07/05/2013, 08:20 PM	#114
cu0ngsayz Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Houston TX Posts: 63	Very nice sumps!!!!!

07/05/2013, 08:44 PM	#115
scarface70706 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,364	WOW! that is one awesome sump. now i know what sump i want when i upgrade to a 180g in the our next move. thank you for sharing.

07/07/2013, 02:59 AM	#116
lovewell Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 47	Do you have any shots of the sump up and running now. Just curious how the fuge is working out for you.

07/07/2013, 12:24 PM	#118
artarmon42 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Ramon, CA Posts: 36	Wow really nice and clean! Doesnt seem like elite aquatics are doing custom sumps anymore. Anyone else building customs sumps with this type of quality?

07/28/2013, 11:18 AM	#119
H.reidi.MN Moved On Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 882	Thanks for that baffle explanation.. I've always seen and thought the under 2 over one before the return was better for trapping bubbles as they get stuck in the tiny chamber going over the middle of the 3 baffles ?