Did I Just waste $2800?? Solaris I5

[BeanAnimal]

Originally posted by tufacody
Bean, you aren't seeing the forest from the tress. Putting a "watt" into a beaker and putting a "watt" into the ocean yield very different net results temperature wise.

Heh? Sorry my friend but this exact topic has been beat to death on this forum a dozen times. A 100W fan, a 100W light and a 100W heater all use exactly the same amount of energy. There is no difference between your beaker and the ocean. A watt of heat is a watt of heat.

So when a fan, heater or pump uses energy, that energy is imparted to the room. When it is, most of it is turned directly to heat. Mechanical motion causes friction, vibration is turned to heat. Light is absorbed as heat, etc. What is not turned to heat must be stored. Our rooms do not store energy. Sure the fan blows a piece of paper and dust that land on higher surfaces (energy is now stored as potential). Some of the light does get converted to chemical energy and some does escape. However, those quantities of energy are so small that they don't matter to any signifigance for OUR conversation. We are not counting down to the last electron. For our purposes, 100W consumed in our room creates 100W of heat in that room. Period.

By your analysis you seem to be claiming that they are the same. The heat the Solaris blows would only significantly affect the temperature of a VERY small room.

A SOLARIS unit that consumes 100W will put the same heat into the room that a MH unit that consumes 100W does. Basic physics.

And besides that, ALL fixtures radiate this same type of heat, most more so than even the Solaris.

No. Each different type of lighting converts energy in different ratios. Radiation/Convection/Conduction. However, it all adds up to 100% Nothing is stored. What goes into the lamp/ballast comes out of the lamp/ballast.

The Solaris has a heat sensor on it's board, and the display does give the readout. On my normal settings the board is around 85 degrees. The temperature of the OUTSIDE casing on my Outer Orbit 250 watt fixture is higher than that. Imagine what it is blowing out.

Again, 100W of electricity in means 100W of Energy out. That 100W of energy becomes 100W of heat in our rooms (minus the irrelevant amount that escapes or is stored in the chemical process of coral building, that is similar for both MH and LED setup anyay).

This topic has been covered by 2-3 HUGE threads and in each case the outcome is the same. The majority of people do not grasp the basic physics needed to talk about this subject and therefore end up on the wrong side of the logic

[dc]

Originally posted by layer3switchguy


If I could close my own thread, I would... This has stopped being constructive, and has become divisive. The fixture will show up on Oct 1st. I'll throw it on top of my tank, and make my own conclusions...

really are... I for one consider this thread closed... It's no longer useful, and only manages to insight anger. This is a hobby guys, it's supposed to be fun....

I'll take that as a request. You can always report a thread you start and ask for it to be closed.

Some of you need to read the User Agreement again.