My 90 gal build + stand build - Page 5

reeferboy83 · 11/26/2009, 10:31 AM

Nice job! I recently just finished my 90g build as well!!

Gill again · 11/27/2009, 03:55 PM

Got 9 corals today! LFS had a deal on frags for $10.00 each. If you realize that this was not a deal just dont tell me cause I am happy. Also got 2 more critters. A sand sifting starfish and a Blood (fire) shrimp.

Here is the list as I remember it

1. Candy cane
2. 4 mushrooms on 2 rocks. 1 rock was a bonus I cut off another coral.
3. Leather Finger
4. Dragon Green eye button polyps
5. Orange Montipora
6. Hammer Coral
7. Green Star polyp (i think)
8. Fuzzy Grass (maybe)

Ill get pics up as soon as I acclimate the shrimp and starfish.

Gill again · 11/29/2009, 12:49 PM

Add to the list
10 Turbo Astrea snails
2 Emerald crabs

Gill again · 11/30/2009, 08:21 PM

Ok so tonight marks a bad day for the fire shrimp. I cant get to him and he seems to be missing a couple of legs. I found those in a corner of the aquarium. Not sure who or why.
The list of possibles would be
Suspect # 1 Coral Beauty Angel
Suspect # 2 Jawfish

after that I have a Watchman Goby 2 Clowns 10 Turbo Astera snails and 2 emerald crabs.

What do you think? The Beauty right?

Gill again · 12/01/2009, 05:08 PM

A new thought tonight and possibly evidence. After looking through the aquarium I found what appears to be a leg stuck to the guard of one of the K 4s. I could see him getting up at night on one of those power heads and possibly getting caught up in the blade. Dont really know. I have seen some displays of the Coarl Beauty pushing others around but he/she seems otherwise very docile.

badpvtdan · 12/01/2009, 05:25 PM

I never had a coral beauty mess with any shrimp (had one for two years).

Gill again · 12/01/2009, 06:16 PM

Is it possible that he molted? The reason I ask is I got a good look at him and cant see any physical damage. The other reason I ask is that what I am finding is full of color and I would assume that a molted skeleton would not be so brightly colored.

Just a overly concerned man with a tank. kill me I care!

Gill again · 12/03/2009, 08:30 PM

Added a CUC yesterday. The list goes like this:

Scarlet Hermit Crab: 20
Blueleg Hermit Crab: 20
Emerald Crab: 5
Coral Banded Shrimp: 1
Sally Lightfoot: 1
Turbo/Astrea Snail: 20
Cleaner Clam : 2
Nassarius Snail - Group of 10: 1

Had previously added 10 Turbo/Astrea snails and 3 Emerald Crabs.

For some reason my phosphates seem to rise after water changes. Checked the RODI water from my unit and its 0 TDS checked the phosphate to be sure and its 0. I had an algae boom kicking up so thats the reason for the CUC. I also bought and am going to install a GFO. That should stop the phosphates.

Reeftanks6 · 12/03/2009, 08:44 PM

Looking good

frickenfragger · 12/04/2009, 12:56 PM

seems like a lot of hermits, also don't know about mixing sally's and emeralds, imo.

Gill again · 12/06/2009, 10:12 AM

Home today and the tank is clean. Not sure about the count on hermits and what not. I used a suggestion of a CUC for 30 to 90 gal tanks. The mix of critters came from that. Havent had a chance to check water parameters yet but I am very hopeful that the phosphates will be zero. If the GFO did its job.

frickenfragger · 12/07/2009, 11:00 PM

I have just had issues with hermits attacking snails is all. Hope it works for you.

Emarld crabs are great.

Gill again · 12/08/2009, 07:27 PM

From what I can see I think I have had the same thing. I mean the hermits attacking snails. Not sure as I have not seen what I think is a hermit eating a snail but I have lost probably 3 snails since I put them in. Maybe it was just their time or maybe it was murder? I know I dont want to encourage violence in my tank but I think that some of it is almost unavoidable? At the time I needed help with the CUC. Maybe I can learn, once I get this thing stable, what I can do without when it comes to a CUC. I really appreciate the feedback.

Gill again · 12/08/2009, 08:59 PM

Checked water parameters.

Phosphate 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0
Ammonia 0

I really think the GFO reactor is responsible for the phosphate number. I have not really changed anything else but adding the CUC.

Gill again · 12/09/2009, 05:13 PM

Some pictures cause I know you like pictures!

http://img8.imageshack.us/slideshow/...397541a96.smil

Reeftanks6 · 12/09/2009, 05:42 PM

Very nice slideshow

robs.mark · 12/10/2009, 07:36 AM

When a shrimp malts it usually hides until its shell gets hard, its very possible what your seeing is the old shell..

IMO hermits are useless, snails are far better as a cuc. hermets fight for shells and annoy corals..

Pics look amazing well done! keep it up...

Gill again · 12/12/2009, 06:38 AM

Thanks reeftank, thank you Mark.

My wife said I cant buy anything else until after christmas. Said I may ruin my christmas. I hope she doesn't try to wrap up a fish and put it under the tree.

Reeftanks6 · 12/12/2009, 07:24 AM

Haha you never know Gill again. She might suprise you

Gill again · 12/13/2009, 06:17 PM

Ok so here is how to screw up things when they are going great. Tonight I said hmmmmmmmmm....actually said hmmmmmmmmmmm, Ill put some snails in my sump to help keep it clean. So picked me out 4 nice turbos and in they went. So then the wife and I are just looking at the fish and what not when we here a gurggle. I open the bottom cabinet and see that the sump is just about to overflow!

Well guess what happened. Yup you guess it, one of the turbos got on my float switch and emptied out my top off tank. Caught it just in time. So now I have to spend some more money on a second switch to prevent overflow. To tell the truth I was gonna do this anyway but hey, thanks MR SNAIL!! Oh yeah did I mention it dropped my salinity in my tank as well. Thats nice. Now Im making some more water so I can do a water change. So my advice to all is watch any thing you do cause you may just flood your house!!

Gill again · 12/18/2009, 04:55 PM

Well it happened. Not sure when Im guessing yesterday or last night. I lost my jawfish "Mr. Peepers". I found him tonight under a rock at the claws of an emerald crab. All has been well in the tank. I dont think it was murder or what do you think given my stock list. I think the recent snail incident with the ph and salinity changes may have been the beginning to the end for him. Not sure but the loss is certain. I will check all parameters tonight.

robs.mark · 12/19/2009, 08:48 AM

Thats sucks.. how long have you had him for? Was he eating well? I know they can be fussy eaters and providing is was the burrowing type (yellow headed i think) i thing they should be target fed near the burrow. either way it still sucks.

I got some new livestock today, hammer coral, brain, some shrooms, an awesome worm, a clam, and a 20 odd lb of queensland rock. pics tomorrow!

Gill again · 12/19/2009, 01:03 PM

Very nice on the new stock. Yeah I hate that I lost him. I think I will not replace him with another. I think I may buy some more mature corals after first of the year. We will see.

cuda70bill · 12/19/2009, 10:18 PM

it sounds and looks like a great tank, my 90 has been running for about a week now can't wait for it to cycle, and you have a great taste in dogs as well

Gill again · 12/20/2009, 07:24 AM

Thanks cuda on both. My dog is such a great dog. More like one of the family than a pet. Loving the tank though I am getting an issue here or there. I think its more of a tell tell of me being busy and not doing all the little things I need to do as well as a snail that I hate now.

With that said I have a water change due today. Gotta get that done.

11/26/2009, 10:31 AM	#101
reeferboy83 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florence AL Posts: 86	Nice job! I recently just finished my 90g build as well!! __________________ "Got Reef" Current Tank Info: 120g Glass Cages RR Rimless Octo 160 Recirc Skimmer 100g rubermaid sump, OceanRevive Arctic S026 Full Spectrum LED's

11/27/2009, 03:55 PM	#102
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Got 9 corals today! LFS had a deal on frags for $10.00 each. If you realize that this was not a deal just dont tell me cause I am happy. Also got 2 more critters. A sand sifting starfish and a Blood (fire) shrimp. Here is the list as I remember it 1. Candy cane 2. 4 mushrooms on 2 rocks. 1 rock was a bonus I cut off another coral. 3. Leather Finger 4. Dragon Green eye button polyps 5. Orange Montipora 6. Hammer Coral 7. Green Star polyp (i think) 8. Fuzzy Grass (maybe) Ill get pics up as soon as I acclimate the shrimp and starfish. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

11/29/2009, 12:49 PM	#103
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Add to the list 10 Turbo Astrea snails 2 Emerald crabs __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

11/30/2009, 08:21 PM	#104
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Ok so tonight marks a bad day for the fire shrimp. I cant get to him and he seems to be missing a couple of legs. I found those in a corner of the aquarium. Not sure who or why. The list of possibles would be Suspect # 1 Coral Beauty Angel Suspect # 2 Jawfish after that I have a Watchman Goby 2 Clowns 10 Turbo Astera snails and 2 emerald crabs. What do you think? The Beauty right? __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/01/2009, 05:08 PM	#105
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	A new thought tonight and possibly evidence. After looking through the aquarium I found what appears to be a leg stuck to the guard of one of the K 4s. I could see him getting up at night on one of those power heads and possibly getting caught up in the blade. Dont really know. I have seen some displays of the Coarl Beauty pushing others around but he/she seems otherwise very docile. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/01/2009, 05:25 PM	#106
badpvtdan Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 170	I never had a coral beauty mess with any shrimp (had one for two years).

12/01/2009, 06:16 PM	#107
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Is it possible that he molted? The reason I ask is I got a good look at him and cant see any physical damage. The other reason I ask is that what I am finding is full of color and I would assume that a molted skeleton would not be so brightly colored. Just a overly concerned man with a tank. kill me I care! __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/03/2009, 08:30 PM	#108
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Added a CUC yesterday. The list goes like this: Scarlet Hermit Crab: 20 Blueleg Hermit Crab: 20 Emerald Crab: 5 Coral Banded Shrimp: 1 Sally Lightfoot: 1 Turbo/Astrea Snail: 20 Cleaner Clam : 2 Nassarius Snail - Group of 10: 1 Had previously added 10 Turbo/Astrea snails and 3 Emerald Crabs. For some reason my phosphates seem to rise after water changes. Checked the RODI water from my unit and its 0 TDS checked the phosphate to be sure and its 0. I had an algae boom kicking up so thats the reason for the CUC. I also bought and am going to install a GFO. That should stop the phosphates. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/03/2009, 08:44 PM	#109
Reeftanks6 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 3,857	Looking good

12/04/2009, 12:56 PM	#110
frickenfragger Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 26	seems like a lot of hermits, also don't know about mixing sally's and emeralds, imo.

12/06/2009, 10:12 AM	#111
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Home today and the tank is clean. Not sure about the count on hermits and what not. I used a suggestion of a CUC for 30 to 90 gal tanks. The mix of critters came from that. Havent had a chance to check water parameters yet but I am very hopeful that the phosphates will be zero. If the GFO did its job. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/07/2009, 11:00 PM	#112
frickenfragger Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 26	I have just had issues with hermits attacking snails is all. Hope it works for you. Emarld crabs are great.

12/08/2009, 07:27 PM	#113
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	From what I can see I think I have had the same thing. I mean the hermits attacking snails. Not sure as I have not seen what I think is a hermit eating a snail but I have lost probably 3 snails since I put them in. Maybe it was just their time or maybe it was murder? I know I dont want to encourage violence in my tank but I think that some of it is almost unavoidable? At the time I needed help with the CUC. Maybe I can learn, once I get this thing stable, what I can do without when it comes to a CUC. I really appreciate the feedback. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/08/2009, 08:59 PM	#114
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Checked water parameters. Phosphate 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Ammonia 0 I really think the GFO reactor is responsible for the phosphate number. I have not really changed anything else but adding the CUC. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/09/2009, 05:13 PM	#115
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Some pictures cause I know you like pictures! http://img8.imageshack.us/slideshow/...397541a96.smil __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/09/2009, 05:42 PM	#116
Reeftanks6 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 3,857	Very nice slideshow __________________ 110g Reef build in progress Current Tank Info: 110 Gallon Reef

12/10/2009, 07:36 AM	#117
robs.mark Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,461	When a shrimp malts it usually hides until its shell gets hard, its very possible what your seeing is the old shell.. IMO hermits are useless, snails are far better as a cuc. hermets fight for shells and annoy corals.. Pics look amazing well done! keep it up... __________________ knowledge is power! Current Tank Info: Lagoon

12/12/2009, 06:38 AM	#118
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Thanks reeftank, thank you Mark. My wife said I cant buy anything else until after christmas. Said I may ruin my christmas. I hope she doesn't try to wrap up a fish and put it under the tree. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/12/2009, 07:24 AM	#119
Reeftanks6 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 3,857	Haha you never know Gill again. She might suprise you __________________ 110g Reef build in progress Current Tank Info: 110 Gallon Reef

12/13/2009, 06:17 PM	#120
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Ok so here is how to screw up things when they are going great. Tonight I said hmmmmmmmmm....actually said hmmmmmmmmmmm, Ill put some snails in my sump to help keep it clean. So picked me out 4 nice turbos and in they went. So then the wife and I are just looking at the fish and what not when we here a gurggle. I open the bottom cabinet and see that the sump is just about to overflow! Well guess what happened. Yup you guess it, one of the turbos got on my float switch and emptied out my top off tank. Caught it just in time. So now I have to spend some more money on a second switch to prevent overflow. To tell the truth I was gonna do this anyway but hey, thanks MR SNAIL!! Oh yeah did I mention it dropped my salinity in my tank as well. Thats nice. Now Im making some more water so I can do a water change. So my advice to all is watch any thing you do cause you may just flood your house!! __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/18/2009, 04:55 PM	#121
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Well it happened. Not sure when Im guessing yesterday or last night. I lost my jawfish "Mr. Peepers". I found him tonight under a rock at the claws of an emerald crab. All has been well in the tank. I dont think it was murder or what do you think given my stock list. I think the recent snail incident with the ph and salinity changes may have been the beginning to the end for him. Not sure but the loss is certain. I will check all parameters tonight. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/19/2009, 08:48 AM	#122
robs.mark Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,461	Thats sucks.. how long have you had him for? Was he eating well? I know they can be fussy eaters and providing is was the burrowing type (yellow headed i think) i thing they should be target fed near the burrow. either way it still sucks. I got some new livestock today, hammer coral, brain, some shrooms, an awesome worm, a clam, and a 20 odd lb of queensland rock. pics tomorrow! __________________ knowledge is power! Current Tank Info: Lagoon

12/19/2009, 01:03 PM	#123
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Very nice on the new stock. Yeah I hate that I lost him. I think I will not replace him with another. I think I may buy some more mature corals after first of the year. We will see. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium

12/19/2009, 10:18 PM	#124
cuda70bill Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaGrange , Illinois Posts: 98	it sounds and looks like a great tank, my 90 has been running for about a week now can't wait for it to cycle, and you have a great taste in dogs as well

12/20/2009, 07:24 AM	#125
Gill again Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montgomery,Alabama Posts: 205	Thanks cuda on both. My dog is such a great dog. More like one of the family than a pet. Loving the tank though I am getting an issue here or there. I think its more of a tell tell of me being busy and not doing all the little things I need to do as well as a snail that I hate now. With that said I have a water change due today. Gotta get that done. __________________ Beauty depends on size as well as symmetry. No very small animal can be beautiful, for looking at it takes so small a portion of time that the impression of it will be confused. Nor can any very large one, for a whole view of it cannot be had at once, and so there will be no unity and completeness. Aristotle <------apparently he never had a salt water aquarium Current Tank Info: 90 gal mixed reef , 40 gal sump with refugium