BRS Tested Some Carbon Blocks: I'm Testing Them, You Should Too. - Page 5

PyroSteve · 01/13/2017, 05:58 PM

Great info! So if I'm looking for the smallest footprint RO/DI to get rid of chloramines, do you think a 3 stage with a Size 3 Canister and 10BB is the best solution?

125mph · 01/16/2017, 03:44 PM

Finally got my chloramine monster.. a little messy but here it is:

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tkeracer619 · 01/16/2017, 03:48 PM

Excellent!

tkeracer619 · 01/16/2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PyroSteve

Great info! So if I'm looking for the smallest footprint RO/DI to get rid of chloramines, do you think a 3 stage with a Size 3 Canister and 10BB is the best solution?

Probably a good way to go.

If you will have a .5 micron carbon block after it I'd consider using a Pentek CRFC-BB in a 10" Big Blue housing. It's only 20 microns so you'd want another carbon after it but it will out perform the Chlorplus 10BB for chloramines. It's the 10" filter version of what is in the chloramine monster.

PyroSteve · 01/17/2017, 08:55 AM

Great thanks. I can tell they dose our water after every storm, I can smell and taste this stuff!

PyroSteve · 01/20/2017, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

Probably a good way to go.

If you will have a .5 micron carbon block after it I'd consider using a Pentek CRFC-BB in a 10" Big Blue housing. It's only 20 microns so you'd want another carbon after it but it will out perform the Chlorplus 10BB for chloramines. It's the 10" filter version of what is in the chloramine monster.

I decided to go with a 75gpd 4 stage and 10 BB housing.

The plan was to set it up - 5 micron sediment filter, 10 lb. 20 micron CRFC-BB, 5 micron carbon block, RO, DI but I can't find the Pentek in stock anywhere.

If not I'll set it up - 5 micron sediment filter, 5 micron carbon block, 10 lb. 1 micron Chloraguard, RO, DI

Look correct? I don't have nearly the water requirements as you so I'm thinking I won't have to worry about chloramines for a long time.

125mph · 01/20/2017, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PyroSteve

I decided to go with a 75gpd 4 stage and 10 BB housing.

The plan was to set it up - 5 micron sediment filter, 10 lb. 20 micron CRFC-BB, 5 micron carbon block, RO, DI but I can't find the Pentek in stock anywhere.

If not I'll set it up - 5 micron sediment filter, 5 micron carbon block, 10 lb. 1 micron Chloraguard, RO, DI

Look correct? I don't have nearly the water requirements as you so I'm thinking I won't have to worry about chloramines for a long time.

CRFC10-BB is very hard to locate. I wouldn't count on finding those.

Also, I would run a single canister then your 10bb, then the 4 stage.. Just to keep it clean! SEems like your routing around the 4 stage?

tkeracer619 · 01/20/2017, 11:46 AM

The part number for the 10" BB is CRFC-BB. Amazon has them in stock for $66

Buckeye Hydro · 01/20/2017, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

The part number for the 10" BB is CRFC-BB. Amazon has them in stock for $66

Another option for you in 10" x 4.5" chloramine carbon blocks:
http://www.buckeyehydro.com/chloragu...-carbon-block/

125mph · 01/20/2017, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

The part number for the 10" BB is CRFC-BB. Amazon has them in stock for $66

Not bad, you found it easily

PyroSteve · 01/20/2017, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 125mph

CRFC10-BB is very hard to locate. I wouldn't count on finding those.

Also, I would run a single canister then your 10bb, then the 4 stage.. Just to keep it clean! SEems like your routing around the 4 stage?

I was going to plumb the 10 bb between stages 2 & 3 on the 4 stage if possible.

1.Sediment
2. Carbon Block
> BB 10 Lb. Block
3. RO membrane
4. DI

I was going to go with a 3 stage without the 2. Carbon Block and go sediment, BB, RO, DI because of space and didn't think the extra CB would be necessary but looks like a can squeeze the 4 stage under the wet bar.

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

The part number for the 10" BB is CRFC-BB. Amazon has them in stock for $66

wow I looked on Amazon, not sure how I missed that!

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Hydro

Another option for you in 10" x 4.5" chloramine carbon blocks

Thanks Buckeye

tigersmith · 01/23/2017, 04:59 AM

Which test kit are you guys using to test total chlorine? I was using the Hach CN70 and always get undetectable result for both waste and product. Since my acros started to get burnt tips and RTN at random spots again, I bought a Hanna ultra low total chlorine checker. It showed 7ppb (.007ppm) after the DI and 8ppb (.008ppm) at the waste water. Test done after replacing granular catalytic carbon in two 4X20 canisters and two pentek chlorplus in 2X20 canisters. Are these test numbers low enough to be of any concern or does it have to be 0ppb.

tkeracer619 · 01/23/2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PyroSteve

I was going to plumb the 10 bb between stages 2 & 3 on the 4 stage if possible.

The big carbon block, whatever you go with, needs to be the first carbon block. Putting a normal one out in front of it is a waste of money. Like I said before, that's like having the president leading the motorcade on a motorcycle and the secrete service riding in the bulletproof limo. Put that big carbon block out front!!

Buckeye Hydro · 01/23/2017, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

The big carbon block, whatever you go with, needs to be the first carbon block. Putting a normal one out in front of it is a waste of money. Like I said before, that's like having the president leading the motorcade on a motorcycle and the secrete service riding in the bulletproof limo. Put that big carbon block out front!!

Yes - this is the correct configuration! Highest capacity carbon block should be the first one AFTER the sediment filter(s).

jason2459 · 01/23/2017, 02:38 PM

I'm considering going with the 20 2.5" not the BB and swap out yearly.

Buckeye Hydro · 01/23/2017, 02:44 PM

The housings that hold 10" x 4.5" filters, and the housings that hold 20" x 4.5" filters are both referred to generically as Big Blue Housings, regardless of color. We call Buckeye Hydro's clear and blue BB's our "Max Flow Housings."

Russ

jason2459 · 01/23/2017, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Hydro

The housings that hold 10" x 4.5" filters, and the housings that hold 20" x 4.5" filters are both referred to generically as Big Blue Housings, regardless of color. We call Buckeye Hydro's clear and blue BB's our "Max Flow Housings."

Russ

Yep, sorry I meant the narrow 2.5" one. I edited my post above.

tkeracer619 · 01/23/2017, 03:26 PM

Just realized I posted the wrong graph above. I put the pressure drop not the treated gallons...

PyroSteve · 01/23/2017, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

The big carbon block, whatever you go with, needs to be the first carbon block. Putting a normal one out in front of it is a waste of money. Like I said before, that's like having the president leading the motorcade on a motorcycle and the secrete service riding in the bulletproof limo. Put that big carbon block out front!!

Understood Thanks

jason2459 · 01/23/2017, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

Just realized I posted the wrong graph above. I put the pressure drop not the treated gallons...

Which graphic were you trying to post?

tkeracer619 · 01/23/2017, 09:40 PM

I can't find it on the web. It's on the hard drive I just pulled out of this laptop and haven't gotten an external case for yet...

jason2459 · 01/28/2017, 08:39 PM

So, I'm on buckeye hydro's website pricing out what all I need to get some 20"x2.5" housings, brackets, fittings, etc (they have everything needed BRS is lacking in fittings fyi) and I run across the Gapper. I want. I'm very seriously contemplating that 400gpd setup but then I would need to upgrade my DI housing still.

Buckeye Hydro · 01/29/2017, 04:52 AM

We introduced the Gapper near the end of last year in our Form here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2610131

tkeracer619 · 03/04/2017, 11:07 AM

Very Cool!

jason2459 · 03/04/2017, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tkeracer619

Very Cool!

Super Cool! I love it!!

My thread on getting ready for it and setup of it.
The Gapper 400GPD Light Commercial RO from Buckeye Hydro
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...0#post24964950

01/16/2017, 03:44 PM	#102
125mph Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,405	Finally got my chloramine monster.. a little messy but here it is: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 180G Rimless Starphire 72x24x24 (Miracles) 3 x Ecotech XR15w G4 Pro \| T5 x 4 \| 2 x Mp40wQD GEO 612 Cal Reactor \| Vertex Omega 150 Skimmer \| Chaeto Reactor Synergy Reef CL44 Sump \| Neptune Apex

01/16/2017, 03:48 PM	#103
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Excellent! __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

01/20/2017, 11:46 AM	#108
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	The part number for the 10" BB is CRFC-BB. Amazon has them in stock for $66 __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

01/23/2017, 02:38 PM	#115
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	I'm considering going with the 20 2.5" not the BB and swap out yearly. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank Last edited by jason2459; 01/23/2017 at 02:53 PM.

01/23/2017, 03:26 PM	#118
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Just realized I posted the wrong graph above. I put the pressure drop not the treated gallons... __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

01/13/2017, 05:58 PM	#101
PyroSteve Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 60	Great info! So if I'm looking for the smallest footprint RO/DI to get rid of chloramines, do you think a 3 stage with a Size 3 Canister and 10BB is the best solution?

01/17/2017, 08:55 AM	#105
PyroSteve Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Springfield, PA Posts: 60	Great thanks. I can tell they dose our water after every storm, I can smell and taste this stuff!

01/23/2017, 04:59 AM	#112
tigersmith Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 59	Which test kit are you guys using to test total chlorine? I was using the Hach CN70 and always get undetectable result for both waste and product. Since my acros started to get burnt tips and RTN at random spots again, I bought a Hanna ultra low total chlorine checker. It showed 7ppb (.007ppm) after the DI and 8ppb (.008ppm) at the waste water. Test done after replacing granular catalytic carbon in two 4X20 canisters and two pentek chlorplus in 2X20 canisters. Are these test numbers low enough to be of any concern or does it have to be 0ppb.

01/23/2017, 02:44 PM	#116
Buckeye Hydro .Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,857	The housings that hold 10" x 4.5" filters, and the housings that hold 20" x 4.5" filters are both referred to generically as Big Blue Housings, regardless of color. We call Buckeye Hydro's clear and blue BB's our "Max Flow Housings." Russ

01/23/2017, 09:40 PM	#121
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	I can't find it on the web. It's on the hard drive I just pulled out of this laptop and haven't gotten an external case for yet... __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.

01/28/2017, 08:39 PM	#122
jason2459 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,671	So, I'm on buckeye hydro's website pricing out what all I need to get some 20"x2.5" housings, brackets, fittings, etc (they have everything needed BRS is lacking in fittings fyi) and I run across the Gapper. I want. I'm very seriously contemplating that 400gpd setup but then I would need to upgrade my DI housing still. __________________ rebuild and recovery log: No more red house, you'll have to click on my name and visit my homepage! You can check out my parameters at reeftronics dot net website and look for my username. Current Tank Info: 180g mixed reef w/ a beananimal overflow to a dolomite RRUGF. \| 20g long G. Smithii Mantis Tank

01/29/2017, 04:52 AM	#123
Buckeye Hydro .Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,857	We introduced the Gapper near the end of last year in our Form here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2610131

03/04/2017, 11:07 AM	#124
tkeracer619 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 17,289	Very Cool! __________________ Hobby Experience: 9200ish gallons, 26 skimmers, and a handful of Kent Scrapers. Current Tank: Vortech Powered 600G SPS Tank w/ 100gal frag tank & 100g Sump. RK2-RK10 Skimmer. ReefAngel. Radium 20k.