Expensive fish - Page 5

freedive43 · 06/30/2006, 09:40 PM

I've been collecting fish in Hawaii for the past 13 years. During that time I've known three divers who were paralyzed due to the bends. Many divers, including myself, have been subject to milder cases of decompression sickness all in the pursuit of rare and unusual fish to satiate the collective whims of hobbyists with money. I've caught fish that I've sold for thousands of dollars and heard of fish from Africa that have sold for 7K. The risk for the diver descending to 200"+ is why the fish cost so much. The future of rare fish collection in Hawaii is about to change though. Myself and alikatoes are investing in 15k rebreathers that will allow us to collect at depths of up to 500". Now that will be some rare fish. How much do you think someone would pay for the first fish of its kind to be discovered? What do you think they'd pay the collector to name it after them? Some people have way too much money - that's what hobbies are for...

NexDog · 06/30/2006, 10:18 PM

Would a fish that lives at the cool depth at 500ft survive in our hot boxes?

DragonMorayEels · 06/30/2006, 10:22 PM

Well my pair of Dragon eels were $2,400 for both with the female costing me $900 and the male at $1,500 and later when finally my reef tanks be ready, I will be looking to get some high price fish with the spotted tang for about $1,500 and I not at this moment remember the name of this dwarf angel, but a pair will run about $5,000 I think and if later the clarions become available again, I be looking for a pair there as well, that would be another $5,000. As well I no idea what the redface moray eels cost, I`ll be getting a pair of those as well.

Buddy

freedive43 · 07/01/2006, 04:13 AM

Yes, fish like the sunset basslet,sunset wrasse and holanthis
thrive in captivity. If deep water fish didn't survive there would be no market for them.

massman · 07/01/2006, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by steve the plumb
If someone drops a net catches 100 fish and says this is worth this amount and thats worth that amount then its a differant ballgame.Less effort to catch a wildfish and place a price tag on it.

Oh really!
You ever tried catching any!
I'll give you a big tip, unless you know what what you are doing, (based on YEARS of experience) catching fish is not as easy as you would think.

PiscesLou · 07/01/2006, 09:06 AM

Gem tang anybody?I havent seen an actual price, anyone know?

bskiba · 07/01/2006, 12:32 PM

I saw one in Ca for 1500 two years ago.

GreshamH · 07/01/2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freedive43
I've been collecting fish in Hawaii for the past 13 years. During that time I've known three divers who were paralyzed due to the bends. Many divers, including myself, have been subject to milder cases of decompression sickness all in the pursuit of rare and unusual fish to satiate the collective whims of hobbyists with money. I've caught fish that I've sold for thousands of dollars and heard of fish from Africa that have sold for 7K. The risk for the diver descending to 200"+ is why the fish cost so much. The future of rare fish collection in Hawaii is about to change though. Myself and alikatoes are investing in 15k rebreathers that will allow us to collect at depths of up to 500". Now that will be some rare fish. How much do you think someone would pay for the first fish of its kind to be discovered? What do you think they'd pay the collector to name it after them? Some people have way too much money - that's what hobbies are for...

IIRC, it's the describing scientist that names the fish, sorry. A friend of mine has brought up a few undesribes, only to recieve zero reconigtion for it. I guess they didn't like his name "Candy *** bass"

ChickenCannoneer · 07/01/2006, 01:08 PM

I cant belive that some people would pay thousands for a fish but if that is what you want to have I guess it all comes down to what that person wants.

Tim

davocean · 07/01/2006, 03:26 PM

My friend works at birch aquarium.
Last year they bought 4 leafy sea dragons at $4,000 a piece!
$16,000 for 4 fish, and when they arrived they had air in their stomache's that made them float to the surface and they almost died right away.
They had to remove air with a hypo and med them.
Now can you imagine spending $16,000 for 4 fish and have them die right away!?

menard · 07/01/2006, 04:14 PM

How much do you think Asian Red Dragon Arowana cost ? Any body wanna give a shot.?

reefinmike · 07/01/2006, 04:33 PM

$23,000?

Ilia · 07/01/2006, 04:55 PM

The most expenisve fish I've bought would have to be a mystery wrasse for $300 and a helfrichi firefish pair for $140.

What I don't understand is why people keep insisting that you have to be crazy to pay a lot of money for a fish. If a person has the money to spend on a fish, then why not? If I had the money for a lamborghini it would be parked in the driveway.

menard · 07/01/2006, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reefinmike
$23,000?

Try 30 G's.

Timothy01 · 07/01/2006, 11:25 PM

it's only worth as much as you will pay for it. if i had the money and a larger tank i would have no problem throwing away a few 1000 dollars for some nice rare fish. better then throwing it away at the bar or for drugs( a friend of mine told me herion addics can go through 3k + a day) its not for the rareity its for the fact that some of the fish i would like to have in a tank would cost me a couple bonus checks.

TheBadGuy · 07/01/2006, 11:32 PM

Most I ever spent was $130 on a Clown Trigger. He made it 24 hours

ACBlinky · 07/02/2006, 01:01 AM

The most expensive fish I've seen with my own eyes was a baby arowana priced at $10 000.

I think the most I've spent is $80CD for a Potter's, which promptly died on me. I've lost three now; all together I've spent somewhere around $200-$250 on a fish I don't have. My flagfin was priced at $120CD, but I bought him for about half that (I worked at the LFS at the time).

A fellow hobbyist visited me and I gave him a tour of my tanks. He didn't give a second look to any of the angels, but went NUTS over my $5 Talbot's damsel. They don't swim around with price tags on; I agree, buy a fish because you like it -- the only one who knows how much it cost (or didn't cost) is you

Serioussnaps · 07/02/2006, 01:02 AM

I have seen a "wrought iron" angel of some sort at the LFS that cost 2800 US. A weird lion that was like 700. A dragon moray that cost 1K US to 1300. Wrasses that range from 100-500. A few other fish that cost around 1500 but cant remember exactly what they were because it is the only time i have seen them. Some LFS get a variation of a fish that you just wont see again unless you Dive and all you do is look for different variations of species. Not to mention expensive mated pairs of angels like the french angel.

Aside from all of this the most ive spent on a fish was 70 bucks, so my tastes pale in comparison to what i have seen some people buy.(someone bought them because they werent there after a while.)

Serioussnaps · 07/02/2006, 01:03 AM

I want a gem tang!!!!!!!!pm me if you wanna sell one!!!!!!!but 23K for that fish.....u must have lost your damn mind

alikatoes · 07/02/2006, 06:32 PM

IIRC, it's the describing scientist that names the fish, sorry. A friend of mine has brought up a few undesribes, only to recieve zero reconigtion for it. I guess they didn't like his name "Candy *** bass" [/QUOTE]

Whats IIRC? and what do you need to be a offical describing scientist? If I know my ichthyology well and do all the clads, mers, etc., who is to say I cant name a fish? How does it work? If its the first species described, you document all your descriptions, and no one else has that info, it seems like no one can really say what the name should be. If you know anymore about this procedure please let me know

glbtrottr · 07/02/2006, 06:58 PM

If I Recall Correctly - IIRC

zens · 09/13/2006, 05:02 PM

i've seen show koi go for a few hundred thousand.

chrismunn · 09/13/2006, 06:11 PM

i wanna know why that dude in greece was so PO'ed? what the currency exchange rate from US dollars to the EURO?

chrismunn · 09/13/2006, 06:15 PM

oh yes, and in japan, there is a certain color variation that goes for much more than any of the other koi's. that the plain colored fish with one big orange dot on the head. to the japanese it represents thier flag, and thier culture, and thats why thier willing to spend so much more on that particular color, as opposed to a regular colored koi.
i learned that while i was away on a boring buisness trip. but i have no idea how much they charge for them?

thor32766 · 09/13/2006, 07:16 PM

yeah I have seen gem tangs sell regurlary for 3,000.00 They just sold one on marinelive and liveaquria and they sold rather quickly.

06/30/2006, 09:40 PM	#101
freedive43 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 115	I've been collecting fish in Hawaii for the past 13 years. During that time I've known three divers who were paralyzed due to the bends. Many divers, including myself, have been subject to milder cases of decompression sickness all in the pursuit of rare and unusual fish to satiate the collective whims of hobbyists with money. I've caught fish that I've sold for thousands of dollars and heard of fish from Africa that have sold for 7K. The risk for the diver descending to 200"+ is why the fish cost so much. The future of rare fish collection in Hawaii is about to change though. Myself and alikatoes are investing in 15k rebreathers that will allow us to collect at depths of up to 500". Now that will be some rare fish. How much do you think someone would pay for the first fish of its kind to be discovered? What do you think they'd pay the collector to name it after them? Some people have way too much money - that's what hobbies are for... __________________ Into the depths we go... Current Tank Info: The ocean is my aquarium.

06/30/2006, 10:18 PM	#102
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Would a fish that lives at the cool depth at 500ft survive in our hot boxes? __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

07/01/2006, 04:13 AM	#104
freedive43 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 115	Yes, fish like the sunset basslet,sunset wrasse and holanthis thrive in captivity. If deep water fish didn't survive there would be no market for them. __________________ Into the depths we go... Current Tank Info: The ocean is my aquarium.

07/01/2006, 12:32 PM	#107
bskiba Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: La Mesa Posts: 794	I saw one in Ca for 1500 two years ago. __________________ AKA: BRADREEF Current Tank Info: Started new cube 05-2012

07/01/2006, 03:26 PM	#110
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	My friend works at birch aquarium. Last year they bought 4 leafy sea dragons at $4,000 a piece! $16,000 for 4 fish, and when they arrived they had air in their stomache's that made them float to the surface and they almost died right away. They had to remove air with a hypo and med them. Now can you imagine spending $16,000 for 4 fish and have them die right away!? __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

06/30/2006, 10:22 PM	#103
DragonMorayEels Moved On Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough NC Posts: 406	Well my pair of Dragon eels were $2,400 for both with the female costing me $900 and the male at $1,500 and later when finally my reef tanks be ready, I will be looking to get some high price fish with the spotted tang for about $1,500 and I not at this moment remember the name of this dwarf angel, but a pair will run about $5,000 I think and if later the clarions become available again, I be looking for a pair there as well, that would be another $5,000. As well I no idea what the redface moray eels cost, I`ll be getting a pair of those as well. Buddy

07/01/2006, 09:06 AM	#106
PiscesLou Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Stockton,ca Posts: 106	Gem tang anybody?I havent seen an actual price, anyone know?

07/01/2006, 01:08 PM	#109
ChickenCannoneer Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hudson, OH Posts: 1,268	I cant belive that some people would pay thousands for a fish but if that is what you want to have I guess it all comes down to what that person wants. Tim

07/01/2006, 04:14 PM	#111
menard TOTM Nov. 2006 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: illinois Posts: 1,630	How much do you think Asian Red Dragon Arowana cost ? Any body wanna give a shot.?

07/01/2006, 04:33 PM	#112
reefinmike Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 846	$23,000? __________________ 90g reef lit by 2 kessil 360's and 4 T5's. 55g sump/fuge, eshopps s-200 skimmer and slowly working on getting every apex gadget

07/01/2006, 04:55 PM	#113
Ilia Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 603	The most expenisve fish I've bought would have to be a mystery wrasse for $300 and a helfrichi firefish pair for $140. What I don't understand is why people keep insisting that you have to be crazy to pay a lot of money for a fish. If a person has the money to spend on a fish, then why not? If I had the money for a lamborghini it would be parked in the driveway. __________________ Jedi Mind Tricks Current Tank Info: 90g RR BB, 30g sump,2 Tunze 6100's, ASM G3 skimmer, 250w lighting

07/01/2006, 11:25 PM	#115
Timothy01 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 292	it's only worth as much as you will pay for it. if i had the money and a larger tank i would have no problem throwing away a few 1000 dollars for some nice rare fish. better then throwing it away at the bar or for drugs( a friend of mine told me herion addics can go through 3k + a day) its not for the rareity its for the fact that some of the fish i would like to have in a tank would cost me a couple bonus checks.

07/01/2006, 11:32 PM	#116
TheBadGuy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hillsborough, NC Posts: 178	Most I ever spent was $130 on a Clown Trigger. He made it 24 hours __________________ The west was not won with a registered gun!! Current Tank Info: 125 Gallon, 200 pds Live Rock 6 fish

07/02/2006, 01:01 AM	#117
ACBlinky Premium Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Peterborough, ON, Canada Posts: 4,954 Blog Entries: 20	The most expensive fish I've seen with my own eyes was a baby arowana priced at $10 000. I think the most I've spent is $80CD for a Potter's, which promptly died on me. I've lost three now; all together I've spent somewhere around $200-$250 on a fish I don't have. My flagfin was priced at $120CD, but I bought him for about half that (I worked at the LFS at the time). A fellow hobbyist visited me and I gave him a tour of my tanks. He didn't give a second look to any of the angels, but went NUTS over my $5 Talbot's damsel. They don't swim around with price tags on; I agree, buy a fish because you like it -- the only one who knows how much it cost (or didn't cost) is you __________________ "The cure for anything is salt water: sweat, tears, or the sea." - Isak Dinesen Current Tank Info: 150g mixed reef, 30g sump/refugium, LED lighting, 100lbs LR, coral beauty, flame angel, blue & yellow tangs, gobies, damsels, 6-line wrasse, lawnmower blenny, dottyback, clown pair, rabbitfish, shrimp, crabs, CUC.

07/02/2006, 01:02 AM	#118
Serioussnaps Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,703	I have seen a "wrought iron" angel of some sort at the LFS that cost 2800 US. A weird lion that was like 700. A dragon moray that cost 1K US to 1300. Wrasses that range from 100-500. A few other fish that cost around 1500 but cant remember exactly what they were because it is the only time i have seen them. Some LFS get a variation of a fish that you just wont see again unless you Dive and all you do is look for different variations of species. Not to mention expensive mated pairs of angels like the french angel. Aside from all of this the most ive spent on a fish was 70 bucks, so my tastes pale in comparison to what i have seen some people buy.(someone bought them because they werent there after a while.)

07/02/2006, 01:03 AM	#119
Serioussnaps Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,703	I want a gem tang!!!!!!!!pm me if you wanna sell one!!!!!!!but 23K for that fish.....u must have lost your damn mind

07/02/2006, 06:32 PM	#120
alikatoes Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Honolulu Hawaii Posts: 219	IIRC, it's the describing scientist that names the fish, sorry. A friend of mine has brought up a few undesribes, only to recieve zero reconigtion for it. I guess they didn't like his name "Candy *** bass" [/QUOTE] Whats IIRC? and what do you need to be a offical describing scientist? If I know my ichthyology well and do all the clads, mers, etc., who is to say I cant name a fish? How does it work? If its the first species described, you document all your descriptions, and no one else has that info, it seems like no one can really say what the name should be. If you know anymore about this procedure please let me know

07/02/2006, 06:58 PM	#121
glbtrottr Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 531	If I Recall Correctly - IIRC __________________ "When it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed overnight..." "Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination" (Oscar Wilde) Current Tank Info: 8X2X30", Bubble King skimmer, Red Dragon Return Pump, Tunzes, Neptune

09/13/2006, 05:02 PM	#122
zens Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 195	i've seen show koi go for a few hundred thousand.

09/13/2006, 06:11 PM	#123
chrismunn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,200	i wanna know why that dude in greece was so PO'ed? what the currency exchange rate from US dollars to the EURO? __________________ Marine Aquarists Association of South Texas Austin Reef Club PBITAWA... Current Tank Info: 14g bio cube

09/13/2006, 06:15 PM	#124
chrismunn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 4,200	oh yes, and in japan, there is a certain color variation that goes for much more than any of the other koi's. that the plain colored fish with one big orange dot on the head. to the japanese it represents thier flag, and thier culture, and thats why thier willing to spend so much more on that particular color, as opposed to a regular colored koi. i learned that while i was away on a boring buisness trip. but i have no idea how much they charge for them? __________________ Marine Aquarists Association of South Texas Austin Reef Club PBITAWA... Current Tank Info: 14g bio cube

09/13/2006, 07:16 PM	#125
thor32766 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chuluota, FL Posts: 6,072	yeah I have seen gem tangs sell regurlary for 3,000.00 They just sold one on marinelive and liveaquria and they sold rather quickly. __________________ "Live your life so no one has to lie about who you were at your funeral" click on my red house to see my tang compound! Current Tank Info: 29 gallon in Wall!