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Unread 11/16/2014, 08:56 PM   #12701
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I have a standard 75 gallon. Two large rock structures with lots of swimming space. 40 gallon sump, 40 gallon refugium. Skimmer for 4-5x rated tank volume. Been up and running for about 10 months or so. Currently have stocked:

2 occelaris clowns
1 six line wrasse this fish will be a problem long term
1 royal gramma
2 peppermint shrimp

All are 2" or less in size so still quite young

Wish list includes:
Carpenters flasher wrasse not with a sixline wrasse
Black combtooth blenny or bicolor blenny
Green clown goby
Possibly a orange spotted diamond goby or other sand dweller
One of either yellow tang, tomini bristle tooth tang, or kole tang
Flame Angel or coral beauty

We had a purple dottyback and had to remove him due to him harassing the wrasse to no end. I've read that the six lines can be devils. It gets along well with everything else so far and a feed quite regularly. Wondering if adding other peaceful fish sooner than later would be better and also wondering if the larger angel or tang would also help dampen the temperment of the six line. larger fish would have not a dampening effect on the six line wrasse

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Unread 11/16/2014, 08:59 PM   #12702
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Just google searched for a thread like this and this came up. I posted and then noticed how many pages and posts there are!!!!! Amazing job snorvich and thank you so much for providing such an amazing service. I find it so daunting to research stuff and then grunt decipher the compatibility list that is on sites like live aquaria! I'm a nurse and we have a similar chart for medications and med errors are made due to accidently moving over a line. Has to be a better system (which you provide) but ya. Thanks for the tremendous effort!
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Always a pleasure. At least with medications it is pretty clear cut, but with fish there are a lot of variables such as tank size, fish size, and order of addition


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Unread 11/16/2014, 11:00 PM   #12703
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Thanks snorvich

Thanks a lot! Ya I figured that would be the answer with the six line. I live in Canada Saskatchewan so the whole reef thing is kinda outta left field out here just one reef store in almost 300km radius so it's hard to get what ya like/want to make everything hospitable for the fish etc. will try and find a new home for the wrasse. Maybe live in fuge, at least I know hoe I can get him outta there without dismantling or chasing him around the tank for hours lol

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Unread 11/16/2014, 11:01 PM   #12704
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Hey snorvich!

75 Gallon mixed reef

Current inhabitants:
2 Black. Occ Clowns
1 Flame Hawkfish
1 Blue Reef Chromis
1 Kole Tang
1 Barletts Anthias

What I would like:
1 Lyretail Anthias (would this work with the Barrett's?)
1 Pink Margin Fairy Wrasse
1 Coral Beauty Angelfish (added last)

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Unread 11/17/2014, 06:09 AM   #12705
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Hey snorvich!

75 Gallon mixed reef

Current inhabitants:
2 Black. Occ Clowns
1 Flame Hawkfish not shrimp safe
1 Blue Reef Chromis
1 Kole Tang
1 Barletts Anthias

What I would like:
1 Lyretail Anthias (would this work with the Barrett's?) I would be happier if the tank were longer
1 Pink Margin Fairy Wrasse
1 Coral Beauty Angelfish (added last) not coral safe; the kole tang may not allow it as they are in the same ecological niche

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Unread 11/17/2014, 08:55 AM   #12706
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In your sized tank, I would suggest that you introduce two flashers of different species. They would flash competitively and would also do well if you could find a female of the same species. C. solorensis will lose some coloration longer term without a female. Flasher wrasses will not lose coloration but will not show the mating behavior or competitive behavior without a male of different species or a female. Since neither C. solorensis nor a flasher wrasse will eat from rock (they are planktivores), they should have minimal problems with your existing mandarin. They may exhibit behavior that could intimidate your firefish.
Ok, thanks Steve, thinking McCoskers and Blue flasher introduced at the same time. So do i have this right, only being kept with a same species female fairy wrasse helps male fairys keep their color? My LFS just got in a blue sided fairy wrasse I really like, but i may just go with the two flashers instead of all 3.


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Ok, thanks Steve, thinking McCoskers and Blue flasher introduced at the same time. So do i have this right, only being kept with a same species female fairy wrasse helps male fairys keep their color? My LFS just got in a blue sided fairy wrasse I really like, but i may just go with the two flashers instead of all 3.
The "blue toned" fairy wrasses are the most susceptible to loss of some coloration absent a female. Flasher wrasses will flash with males of a similar species (e.g. what you are planning) or display nuptial coloration in the presence of one or more females of the same species.


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Unread 11/17/2014, 01:41 PM   #12708
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Instead of the angel and the anthias, I was thinking a flasher wrasse and a leopard wrasse of some sort. Would that work?


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Unread 11/17/2014, 01:47 PM   #12709
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So I took my wife and kids out to a few LFS this past weekend and we all came up with the below list.
Wanted to get your feedback on the stocking list for my 180gal reef tank, please let me know your thoughts.

1 - Blue Tang (Paracanthurus hepatus)
1 - Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
1 - Yellow Tang (Zebrasoma flavescens)
1 - Powder Blue Tang (Acanthurus leucosternon)
1 - Schooling Bannerfish (Heniochus diphreutes)
1 - Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
2 - Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) - CURRENT
1 - Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis) - CURRENT
1 - Yellow Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus)
1 - Hoeven's Wrasse (Halichoeres melanurus) - CURRENT
2 - Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora) - CURRENT
2 - Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica) - CURRENT
2 - Red Mandarin (Synchiropus cf. splendidus)
2 - Spotted Cardinalfish (Sphaeramia nematoptera) - CURRENT
1 - Diamond Watchman Goby (Valenciennea puellaris) - CURRENT
1 - Sleeper Gold Head Goby (Valenciennea strigata)





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Unread 11/17/2014, 01:48 PM   #12710
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Flatworm Eating Small Fish?

I have a standard 29 gallon tank with only two clown fist. It has been up for about 18 months or so. I want to add a small wrasse to help me out with a flatworm thing. I had it down to a yellow corris, but would consider a six line or any other flatworm eating wrasse that would be okay in the 29. Picture of the tank and the flatworms.


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Unread 11/17/2014, 02:21 PM   #12711
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Instead of the angel and the anthias, I was thinking a flasher wrasse and a leopard wrasse of some sort. Would that work?
Assuming your 75 gallon tank is mature, that should work fine.


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Unread 11/17/2014, 02:24 PM   #12712
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I have a standard 29 gallon tank with only two clown fist. It has been up for about 18 months or so. I want to add a small wrasse to help me out with a flatworm thing. I had it down to a yellow corris, but would consider a six line or any other flatworm eating wrasse that would be okay in the 29. Picture of the tank and the flatworms.
The wrasses that would solve the flatworm problem require a substantially larger tank. A six line wrasse is not a good solution to handle flatworms.


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Unread 11/17/2014, 03:41 PM   #12713
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Which fish will my dwarf lionfish eat? It is a dwarf lionfish and not abig one.


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Unread 11/17/2014, 03:53 PM   #12714
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Hey snorvich

I'm just getting into the hobby so my first goal is just to get a peaceful tank this first time so I can get feel of it so I can move on to bigger and better later on.

I'm going with a 29g

1 purple firefish
1 Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse
1 Yellow watchman goby

1 pistol shrimp
assorted snails
1 Red Tuxedo Urchin

and maybe a couple hermit crabs or an emerald crab
or any other inverts you would recommend

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Unread 11/17/2014, 05:19 PM   #12715
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Should I add all three wrasses together into my system?


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Unread 11/17/2014, 06:10 PM   #12716
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Which fish will my dwarf lionfish eat? It is a dwarf lionfish and not abig one.
Any or all of them eventually.


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Unread 11/17/2014, 06:11 PM   #12717
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Hey snorvich

I'm just getting into the hobby so my first goal is just to get a peaceful tank this first time so I can get feel of it so I can move on to bigger and better later on.

I'm going with a 29g excellent plan with "room" for another small peaceful fish

1 purple firefish
1 Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse
1 Yellow watchman goby

1 pistol shrimp
assorted snails
1 Red Tuxedo Urchin

and maybe a couple hermit crabs or an emerald crab I advise against having both crabs and snails.
or any other inverts you would recommend

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Should I add all three wrasses together into my system?
Since I cannot go backwards in this thread, please resupply entire perspective stocking plan for best answer.


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Unread 11/17/2014, 07:49 PM   #12719
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Hi Steve,

I've got a 190g display with a variety of fish in it currently. If you would like the full list, I will provide it, but it may not be necessary for my question.

I've got a pair (male/female) of Genicanthus watanabei. My male has lost most of his male coloration (stripes et cetera), and I've read that it may be due to only having one female in the tank (I guess, in nature, a male would dominate a harem). So I was thinking about adding two more (smaller) females to help him regain his markings and possibly give him a life more similar to nature.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
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The wrasses that would solve the flatworm problem require a substantially larger tank. A six line wrasse is not a good solution to handle flatworms.
Thanks Steve. You are a great service to the hobby. I will look for alternatives to adding a fish.


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So I took my wife and kids out to a few LFS this past weekend and we all came up with the below list.
Wanted to get your feedback on the stocking list for my 180gal reef tank, please let me know your thoughts.

1 - Blue Tang (Paracanthurus hepatus)
1 - Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
1 - Yellow Tang (Zebrasoma flavescens)
1 - Powder Blue Tang (Acanthurus leucosternon)
1 - Schooling Bannerfish (Heniochus diphreutes)
1 - Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
2 - Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) - CURRENT
1 - Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis) - CURRENT
1 - Yellow Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus)
1 - Hoeven's Wrasse (Halichoeres melanurus) - CURRENT
2 - Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora) - CURRENT
2 - Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica) - CURRENT
2 - Red Mandarin (Synchiropus cf. splendidus)
2 - Spotted Cardinalfish (Sphaeramia nematoptera) - CURRENT
1 - Diamond Watchman Goby (Valenciennea puellaris) - CURRENT
1 - Sleeper Gold Head Goby (Valenciennea strigata)

forgot to tell you this is 180gal, (72x24x24), with a 48x18x18 sump and a skimmer rated for 400gal


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So I took my wife and kids out to a few LFS this past weekend and we all came up with the below list.
Wanted to get your feedback on the stocking list for my 180gal reef tank, please let me know your thoughts.

1 - Blue Tang (Paracanthurus hepatus) needs a larger tank
1 - Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
1 - Yellow Tang (Zebrasoma flavescens)
1 - Powder Blue Tang (Acanthurus leucosternon) three tangs is pushing it a bit in a six foot tank, yellow tang must be last fish added or must be concurrent with other tangs
1 - Schooling Bannerfish (Heniochus diphreutes)
1 - Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loricula)
2 - Ocellaris Clownfish (Amphiprion ocellaris) - CURRENT
1 - Lyretail Anthias (Pseudanthias squamipinnis) - CURRENT
1 - Yellow Wrasse (Halichoeres chrysus)
1 - Hoeven's Wrasse (Halichoeres melanurus) - CURRENT
2 - Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora) - CURRENT over time, your various firefish may be reduced in number to only one
2 - Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica) - CURRENT
2 - Red Mandarin (Synchiropus cf. splendidus)
2 - Spotted Cardinalfish (Sphaeramia nematoptera) - CURRENT
1 - Diamond Watchman Goby (Valenciennea puellaris) - CURRENT
1 - Sleeper Gold Head Goby (Valenciennea strigata) these make a mess if you have corals and often starve to death



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Hi Steve,

I've got a 190g display with a variety of fish in it currently. If you would like the full list, I will provide it, but it may not be necessary for my question.

I've got a pair (male/female) of Genicanthus watanabei. My male has lost most of his male coloration (stripes et cetera), and I've read that it may be due to only having one female in the tank (I guess, in nature, a male would dominate a harem). So I was thinking about adding two more (smaller) females to help him regain his markings and possibly give him a life more similar to nature.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Matt
I have had males become females and females become males. Sounds like your male is becoming a female. I doubt that adding additional females will solve the problem and may make matters worse. G. watanabei is one of the more difficult Genicanthus to pair up.


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Can I have 2 Diamond Goby's in a 180? I love my one little guy and just wanted to get another goby to help him out


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Can I have 2 Diamond Goby's in a 180? I love my one little guy and just wanted to get another goby to help him out
Long run, they will not get along. Sorry.


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