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12/10/2013, 01:22 PM | #1251 |
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6 months mike it takes 6 months, sps do not change over night or even within a month
but I was asked not to input - Sorry marty, I just dont like customers buying more than they need, not how we do things here
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12/10/2013, 01:26 PM | #1252 |
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6 months mike it takes 6 months, sps do not change over night or even within a month
ohh, i know that buddy)
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12/10/2013, 01:48 PM | #1253 |
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Two references to 72' tanks are using 4x units. gnisten & mshur
Not trying to beat you up Micheal, just wanting to know what I'm getting into here. |
12/10/2013, 03:55 PM | #1254 |
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I use three on a 72x26x24 in this order (lll), IMO all you require is four units. Now if you feel that you require more after using the three units, then buy another one later.
As Michael said "save your money" and tryout four first. There is no saving in buying fours or eight units at once.....actually you will lose money if tried to sale the unused ones. KS |
12/10/2013, 04:32 PM | #1255 |
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Most people forget that while led May look like less light you are actually getting greater PAR.
Start with 3 and add a fourth if you think you need it. I planned on having darker corners in my 72 with three units so I could place acans and other non light craving corals. I ended up having to use gorgonians and sponges to provide shade. |
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12/11/2013, 07:30 AM | #1257 |
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Thanks for the feedback, trying to get an idea of the overall potential cost. My general thinking is:
3 units- Mitras 4 units- on the fence Mitras or ATI hybrid 5-8 units- might as well go ATI hybrid at that point from a cost/coverage point of view |
12/11/2013, 07:38 AM | #1258 |
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absolute no way do you need more than 4.
In my own view ATI hybrid is just T5 with some shimmer effect LEDS added, once you take into account the cost of T5 bulb replacement the units become very expensive over time. With the Mitras you get more than a T5 could ever offer and with no bulb replacement, so even with 4 units it will pay for itself. Go with 4 units and it will pay for itself!
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12/11/2013, 08:25 AM | #1259 | |
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Have you had the chance of seeing the ATI Hybrid in person or used one at all? The LEDs they used and reflector they created are much more than just shimmer LEDs. They look better than 99% of the LED systems I've seen and dealt with. Not trying to argue or anything. They are both great lights. I'd personally never go back to all LEDs again after having this LED PowerModule. Bulb replacements are so cheap in all reality. People spend more in a month buying fancy coffee than you will in a year for bulbs. Just thought I'd share. Still hoping to see a Mitras in person but I don't think there is one in Utah anywhere!
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12/11/2013, 08:31 AM | #1260 |
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Thanks for the input but as this is the Mitras Club its best we stick to the brand in the club title otherwise it will free fall, them vs us.
I think there is a Hybrid vs Mitras thread somewhere for people to look up and post their thoughts.
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12/11/2013, 08:53 AM | #1261 | |
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Mitrus is a great, highly functional, sexy package with great support which is really making this decision for me tough. Trying to sort out the facts (number needed etc.) is hard enough with out all the subjective factors (glowing fish, coral growth and coloration rates etc.) |
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12/22/2013, 02:17 PM | #1262 |
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Any thoughts or examples of using mitras on a 42" tall tank for a mixed reef. planning on sps, lps, softies, etc
if it could reach that depth (website shows only to 30") what would be the coverage area.
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12/22/2013, 03:03 PM | #1263 |
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we have a couple of tanks with SPS on the bottom at 48"
the coverage area is 36x36" but the bottom is always subjective to landscape and water diffusion with any LED light but as above we do have clients running at deeper depths than 42"
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12/27/2013, 05:15 PM | #1264 |
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still researching and debating the mitra purchase. can you provide me an update as to the wireless abilities of the mitra without a profilux?
Is the wireless card included in the mitra purchase? if not, what is the additional cost? Can I program from a laptop wirelessly without a profilux? Are there plans to enable control form an APEX?
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12/27/2013, 05:31 PM | #1265 |
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the hub which is for non profilux owners is due for release early 2014, i know its being worked on right now.
The mitras comes with the wireless card built in so it is ready for the hub, it is also the same card that it uses already to communicate with other mitras's wirelessly. Yes with the hub you will be able to program wirelessly without a profilux I am told the apex does not have enough capabilities for the Mitras. The Mitras uses dedicated protocols.
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12/27/2013, 11:49 PM | #1266 |
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Hi, I've got a 36"x36"x20" tank, will one 6200HV be enough or do I really need 2?
The product page shows 300 liters max, which is 79 gallons, I have about 100 in the dt. Thanks! |
12/28/2013, 07:30 AM | #1267 |
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HI have the same size tank but 24" in depth and one gives over spill with zero dark areas, one is more than enough
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12/28/2013, 02:19 PM | #1268 |
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and enough light for all types of corals?
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12/28/2013, 02:50 PM | #1269 |
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More than enough you will be running your lamp at max 80% intensity in eco mode, anymore with your depth and you will bleach everything out.
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12/29/2013, 06:11 PM | #1270 |
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If I don't have a GHL controller do I have to use a cable to the PC to program lights or can I use Wifi and my laptop?
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12/29/2013, 06:15 PM | #1271 |
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Andy,
USB cable. its fast and easy.
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12/29/2013, 09:11 PM | #1272 |
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What about hanging options? I've got a ATI 8x24 this would be replacing and its hung with L brackets to the wall since its in a room with vaulted ceilings. I hate the way the ATI is hung, does GHL offer anything for those with vaulted ceilings?
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12/30/2013, 06:40 AM | #1273 |
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the GHL Mitras comes with hanging kits included.
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12/30/2013, 12:14 PM | #1274 |
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I have a vaulted ceiling so wire hangers don't work for me, I need a different style. Does GHL have anything similar to what AI has with the rail mounts that go on the stand?
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12/30/2013, 12:38 PM | #1275 |
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there are so many different scenarios for everyone in regards to mounting, instead of investing in various different options that would be low sellers, GHL just offer the on option but as you will see from this thread everyone has easily used their own DIY method when the hangers are not what they require.
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