anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 51

SimonSKL · 03/18/2013, 09:47 AM

RBs is ususally pretty quick in reviewing new equipment and products before they are launched. I am surprised there has been no review of this pump since it has been launched almost 3 months ago.

jthunder · 03/18/2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dartier

Unfortunately it is a bit more complicated. The pump is voltage controlled not current controlled. A potentiometer would limit the current, not the voltage. However if you were to use a POT to make a voltage divider, than that would probably work, and be quite easy to do.

Dennis

I have two of these pumps and I'm going to open one up to try to ID the components and see how hackable they might be. The idea that all of the components needed to adjust the pump output are already in the controller provided. Here's how I would change the programming if in fact it is microprocessor controlled.

1. Change the knob from a frequency modification to output modification.
2. Run the frequency of waves in a regular pattern.
3. Have the light sensor cut the output from full to 1/3 output.

Anyone already crack it open? pics?

Diesel3443 · 03/18/2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonSKL

If WP25 is indeed has a max flow rate of 3000l/h which is less than 1/4 of WP40, it will not be strong enough for most tank larger than 40g, IMO. I am kind of disappointed with such a low flow rate.

If this is the case, I am glad I bought a 40

SeedlessOne · 03/18/2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jthunder

I have two of these pumps and I'm going to open one up to try to ID the components and see how hackable they might be. The idea that all of the components needed to adjust the pump output are already in the controller provided. Here's how I would change the programming if in fact it is microprocessor controlled.

1. Change the knob from a frequency modification to output modification.
2. Run the frequency of waves in a regular pattern.
3. Have the light sensor cut the output from full to 1/3 output.

Anyone already crack it open? pics?

You may want to read the thread. It will answer most of your questions....

jrp1588 · 03/18/2013, 10:45 AM

So I've been waiting for the wp25 for nothing, that sucks. I guess I'll be picking up a couple wp40's after all and get a variable power supply.

SimonSKL · 03/18/2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jrp1588

So I've been waiting for the wp25 for nothing, that sucks. I guess I'll be picking up a couple wp40's after all and get a variable power supply.

Hold on! Those WP25 flow rate was pure speculation as no one has seen any official published specifications from Jebao about the smaller pump. If any one has confirmed info about the flow rate of WP25, post the link of the officical specifications here.

ingtar_shinowa · 03/18/2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonSKL

RBs is ususally pretty quick in reviewing new equipment and products before they are launched. I am surprised there has been no review of this pump since it has been launched almost 3 months ago.

I find this odd as well.

overexposed · 03/18/2013, 02:46 PM

I ordered one of these for my tank today! This + Arduino + the ReefAngel reefcrest code should be fun

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nettraptor · 03/18/2013, 03:38 PM

This is my afford so far, its still under development ,
i can control the pump from everywhere, and get real-time feedback too,
manage to make reefcrest like theme , nutrient exrt like etc.

i need a second jebao to make more tests and R&D in order to make two or more Jebao work together and get the best out of them.
i have also some great ideas , for example controller to read the weather from a meteorological website and make some storm themes .

edgey · 03/18/2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nettraptor

This is my afford so far, its still under development ,
i can control the pump from everywhere, and get real-time feedback too,
manage to make reefcrest theme , nutrient export etc.

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What kind of water pattern is nutrient export? Is reefcrest random full on and stop?

nettraptor · 03/18/2013, 04:01 PM

full on and stop is the Pulse theme.
nutrient exp i think is best with 2 jebaos one with pulse and one with straight lines power. anyway is one hour theme.
reef crest is not random , is like the vortech "map" and is 1 hour theme too

SimonSKL · 03/18/2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by edgey

What kind of water pattern is nutrient export? Is reefcrest random full on and stop?

The Nutrient Transport Mode or NTM described in Vortech can be best described in the following graph. It consists of series of pulses or waves following by high energy stream to help export the nutrients from the tank. The graph shown here is with two pumps running.

In a ReefCrest mode of a Vortech, the flows are random with pump ramps up and down but never stops. The ReedCrest mode can be best described by the front part of this graph. Jebo WP40's ELSE mode mimics this mode.

So if we can figure out a way to combine W1 and ELSE modes, we have NTM!

SeedlessOne · 03/18/2013, 06:07 PM

Here is another video of my wp40 running on wave 1 mode. This is the only powerhead being used during the video.

SimonSKL · 03/18/2013, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SeedlessOne

Here is another video of my wp40 running on wave 1 mode. This is the only powerhead being used during the video.

Bless you!

Editour2 · 03/18/2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonSKL

Most people without a controller will be perfectly happy with the 6 modes of the stock controller. If you replace the stock power supply with a variable power supply you will be able to reduce the intensity of the pump in case you have a smaller tank.

I am quite satisfied with running the pumps using the stock controller but I use my RKE as a timer to shut off the pump at night.

Someone stated in somewhere in this thread that there was a high/low switch.....in addition to the wave settings.....is that true? Are the 6 settings all for wave functions?

Is this the variable power supply most are using, (without the fan):
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004I5ERUW/..._am_us?ie=UTF8

Editour2 · 03/18/2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nightOwl

Editour2 - I currently have two 6105's , two 6055's, and a 6045 in my 180. I have turned all the other pumps off now. Here is side by side comparison of the 6105 and WP-40 the 6105 is on top.

Tunze 6105 above WP-40 size comparison by LifeThrough_TheLense, on Flickr

WOW!!! Thanks, it looks almost identical.

dread240 · 03/18/2013, 07:26 PM

how big is it compared to a 6055 or 6095?

nightOwl · 03/18/2013, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nettraptor

This is my afford so far, its still under development ,
i can control the pump from everywhere, and get real-time feedback too,
manage to make reefcrest like theme , nutrient exrt like etc.

i need a second jebao to make more tests and R&D in order to make two or more Jebao work together and get the best out of them.
i have also some great ideas , for example controller to read the weather from a meteorological website and make some storm themes .

nettraptor - Ok that looks sweet! How much do you think you have invested in parts so far?

nightOwl · 03/18/2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dread240

how big is it compared to a 6055 or 6095?

dread240 - If someone does not post buy tomorrow when I get off of work I will post pictures comparing it to the 6055 and the 6045.

snowcarver75 · 03/18/2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by overexposed

I ordered one of these for my tank today! This + Arduino + the ReefAngel reefcrest code should be fun

.

If one already is operating an arduino, why bother with ra? Or vice versa?

dgtron · 03/18/2013, 09:43 PM

I ordered for a WP40. Can someone point to a link where I can mod to control through my Apex VDM? & Connect a battery backup.

dread240 · 03/18/2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nightOwl

dread240 - If someone does not post buy tomorrow when I get off of work I will post pictures comparing it to the 6055 and the 6045.

I'd appreciate it. Right now I have a korallia 750 and a 6095 in the tank. I also need to look into the program he's using for it above because if I can run them both in the same program that would be wonderful

ashish · 03/18/2013, 11:11 PM

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treetopflyn · 03/18/2013, 11:42 PM

Well I thought my light sensor was working but I just noticed a wave in the tank. For some reason it is not working in complete darkness. If I turn on a dim light the sensor works but in total darkness it doesn't. That makes no damn sense. Anyone else having this issue?

Bright lights = Pump on
Dim lights = Pump off
Total Darkness = Pump on
Finger over sensor = Pump off.

arghhhhhhhhh

razataz5 · 03/19/2013, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nightOwl

dread240 - If someone does not post buy tomorrow when I get off of work I will post pictures comparing it to the 6055 and the 6045.

That would be great I would like to see it next to the 6045

03/18/2013, 09:47 AM	#1251
SimonSKL Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Danville, IL Posts: 1,918	RBs is ususally pretty quick in reviewing new equipment and products before they are launched. I am surprised there has been no review of this pump since it has been launched almost 3 months ago. __________________ Simon Mixed LPS and SPS corals Camera - Canon T2i with EF100mm 2.8f USM macro lens Current Tank Info: AG 92g corner tank and Marineland 125g, RKE controllers, Maxspect and Eshine LEDs, MP40WES, Jebo WP40 & WP25

03/18/2013, 02:46 PM	#1258
overexposed Acroholic Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 296	I ordered one of these for my tank today! This + Arduino + the ReefAngel reefcrest code should be fun . __________________ ~Phil Current Tank Info: 205 gallon in-wall, SPS dominated

03/18/2013, 03:38 PM	#1259
nettraptor Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 72	This is my afford so far, its still under development , i can control the pump from everywhere, and get real-time feedback too, manage to make reefcrest like theme , nutrient exrt like etc. i need a second jebao to make more tests and R&D in order to make two or more Jebao work together and get the best out of them. i have also some great ideas , for example controller to read the weather from a meteorological website and make some storm themes . Last edited by nettraptor; 03/18/2013 at 03:55 PM.

03/18/2013, 07:26 PM	#1267
dread240 Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Essex, MD Posts: 979	how big is it compared to a 6055 or 6095? __________________ BRB, Goldfish on fire How much deeper would the ocean really be if sponges didn't exist? Current Tank Info: 75 gallon mixed reef tank

03/18/2013, 11:42 PM	#1274
treetopflyn Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,580	Well I thought my light sensor was working but I just noticed a wave in the tank. For some reason it is not working in complete darkness. If I turn on a dim light the sensor works but in total darkness it doesn't. That makes no damn sense. Anyone else having this issue? Bright lights = Pump on Dim lights = Pump off Total Darkness = Pump on Finger over sensor = Pump off. arghhhhhhhhh __________________ 105 Gallon Reef Savvy (48"x 24"X 21") Glass Holes overflow, 29G sump, Mag 12 return, Reef Octopus 150, 2- Jebo WP-25s, Phosoban reactor, 2 Ai Sol Blue's controlled by Reef Angle Controller.

03/18/2013, 10:45 AM	#1255
jrp1588 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 1,864	So I've been waiting for the wp25 for nothing, that sucks. I guess I'll be picking up a couple wp40's after all and get a variable power supply.

03/18/2013, 04:01 PM	#1261
nettraptor Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 72	full on and stop is the Pulse theme. nutrient exp i think is best with 2 jebaos one with pulse and one with straight lines power. anyway is one hour theme. reef crest is not random , is like the vortech "map" and is 1 hour theme too

03/18/2013, 06:07 PM	#1263
SeedlessOne Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pooler, GA Posts: 887	Here is another video of my wp40 running on wave 1 mode. This is the only powerhead being used during the video.

03/18/2013, 09:43 PM	#1271
dgtron Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 126	I ordered for a WP40. Can someone point to a link where I can mod to control through my Apex VDM? & Connect a battery backup.

03/18/2013, 11:11 PM	#1273
ashish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bridgewater NJ Posts: 500	I hate Paypal