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Zswift · 11/20/2014, 01:51 PM

48"x24"x24" DT
40 breeder sump

Lamarck Angelfish female
2 class A Davinci Clownfish
Starry Benny
3-5 Bartletts anthias
Purple tang

Possibly a shrimp and goby pair.

Is this okay?

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kainic

Would it be possible to keep a single ocellaris with the aforemented kauderni and a Nemateleotris magnifica?

I'm looking for a small livestock but including at least 1 ocellaris and 1 kauderni.

Is the ocellaris problem related to having a pair or to the fish itself?

Many thanks.

A single clownfish will become female over time and want to control your entire (small) tank. As such, I do not recommend three fish in this sized tank if one is a clownfish.

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devimik

I'm looking on Live Aquaria and they list a medium sized female C. Solorensis - says female subadult. Is it possible these are juveniles that will turn into males?

Live Aquaria is pretty good at classification. However, if they have a similar species which is a juvenile and it becomes a male, there may be issues or worse, if the classification is correct and it is a juvenile, it may become male, or try to.

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooter181

Hi Snorvich,

First of all, thank you for your awesome attitude and helpfulness in such a debated topic, many a reefers have benefited I'm sure.

On to my question. As far as I've been able to tell, the Halichoeres family are completely compatible, one with another. If so, how many do you think would be good in a 150G 60"X24"X24"? The only other fish being a very peaceful pair of breeding Picasso's I've had for 3+ years in my 90G.

Thanks for your help kind Sir!

Always a pleasure. Well, it depends. If you are trying to get one or more females to match an existing male, I am guessing that three would be fine. If you are talking about 3 different species, three is fine.

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zswift

48"x24"x24" DT
40 breeder sump

Lamarck Angelfish female
2 class A Davinci Clownfish
Starry Benny
3-5 Bartletts anthias
Purple tang

Possibly a shrimp and goby pair.

Is this okay?

should be fine; add the tang last. Those anthias have a propensity for becoming all male so a different species might be better. Anthias do best with multiple feedings per day.

kainic · 11/20/2014, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorvich

A single clownfish will become female over time and want to control your entire (small) tank. As such, I do not recommend three fish in this sized tank if one is a clownfish.

Thank you snorvich, you are really helpful.
I'll go for the clown pair. More reasons to go a bigger tank in a near future.

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kainic

Thank you snorvich, you are really helpful.
I'll go for the clown pair. More reasons to go a bigger tank in a near future.

Fixed that for you!!

DrBoxedWine · 11/20/2014, 05:44 PM

Hi Snorvich,

I've talked with him you multiple times about my 75g stock list, and you had recommended a firefish goby. I got one and he's doing great, but last night I picked up another fish and I got to talking with the employee at the Lfs. He said firefish do great in pairs. I feel like I've heard they won't get along in a smaller tank like mine. Do you think 2 would be friends in a 75g? I also have a Kole tang, coral beauty, bicolor blenny, flame hawk, 2 clowns, and a one spot foxface.

cooter181 · 11/20/2014, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorvich

Always a pleasure. Well, it depends. If you are trying to get one or more females to match an existing male, I am guessing that three would be fine. If you are talking about 3 different species, three is fine.

All different species and as many as I could possibly have lol. So you think 3 would be the limit in a 150?

sbash · 11/20/2014, 07:32 PM

I have a 65 gallon reef tank (36"L x 18"W x 24"H).

I Currently have:
Ocellaris Clownfish (Pair)
Blue/Green Chromis

Looking to add:
Neon Blenny
Dottyback
Pair of Bangaii Cardinal
Fairy Wrasse
Firefish
Yellow Tail Damsel

Aside from the cardinals, they will all be single fish. How does that look? The type of Dottyback and Wrasse will depend on what I can get locally. Your input is appreciated.

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBoxedWine

Hi Snorvich,

I've talked with him you multiple times about my 75g stock list, and you had recommended a firefish goby. I got one and he's doing great, but last night I picked up another fish and I got to talking with the employee at the Lfs. He said firefish do great in pairs. I feel like I've heard they won't get along in a smaller tank like mine. Do you think 2 would be friends in a 75g? I also have a Kole tang, coral beauty, bicolor blenny, flame hawk, 2 clowns, and a one spot foxface.

Firefish will not get along in pairs. They will do ok for a while, then one will intimidate the other into starving to death.

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooter181

All different species and as many as I could possibly have lol. So you think 3 would be the limit in a 150?

I hate to load too many fish in the same ecological niche. I would guess that three is the best maximum.

snorvich · 11/20/2014, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbash

I have a 65 gallon reef tank (36"L x 18"W x 24"H).

I Currently have:
Ocellaris Clownfish (Pair)
Blue/Green Chromis

Looking to add:
Neon Blenny
Dottyback Not with a fairy wrasse and probably not with a firefish
Pair of Bangaii Cardinal
Fairy Wrasse depends on species
Firefish
Yellow Tail Damsel

Aside from the cardinals, they will all be single fish. How does that look? The type of Dottyback and Wrasse will depend on what I can get locally. Your input is appreciated.

sbash · 11/20/2014, 07:49 PM

Okay, I will drop the Dottyback then... Thanks!

JoelA7 · 11/21/2014, 01:53 AM

Hi Steve,

Posted earlier:

Hi Steve,

Would a Hutchii Anthias (male) coexist with a male (or females) of other Anthias?

You needed more specifics. I'm thinking a Disbar or Randall's. Thank you.

snorvich · 11/21/2014, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoelA7

Hi Steve,

Posted earlier:

Hi Steve,

Would a Hutchii Anthias (male) coexist with a male (or females) of other Anthias?

You needed more specifics. I'm thinking a Disbar or Randall's. Thank you.

Should be fine. Remember multiple feedings per day are best.

DrBoxedWine · 11/21/2014, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorvich

Firefish will not get along in pairs. They will do ok for a while, then one will intimidate the other into starving to death.

Thanks!

QuiGonJay · 11/21/2014, 07:38 AM

Thanks again for all the great advice. I have a 30 gallon with about 25 pounds of live rock. Currently a striped blenny and watchman goby along with cleanup crew are there. Was thinking of adding one more 'water column' fish but must be captive bred. Bandai cardinal is my thought, afraid any other goby or blenny would conflict with existing crew. Would 1 or 2 cardinals be appropriate for such a small tank? Thanks

snorvich · 11/21/2014, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuiGonJay

Thanks again for all the great advice. I have a 30 gallon with about 25 pounds of live rock. Currently a striped blenny and watchman goby along with cleanup crew are there. Was thinking of adding one more 'water column' fish but must be captive bred. Bandai cardinal is my thought, afraid any other goby or blenny would conflict with existing crew. Would 1 or 2 cardinals be appropriate for such a small tank? Thanks

A pair of tank raised Banggai cardinals would be fine; insure that you have a male plus female.

JoelA7 · 11/21/2014, 09:33 AM

Thanks Steve.

fessoclown · 11/21/2014, 09:57 AM

HI there, my tank is about 130 Gallons- 80x20x20 - (with sump about 160 G)
current stock is:

Redfin Wasp fish
pair of black snowflake clowns
3 PJ cardinals
2 chromis
Flame Hawkfish
Hippo Tang
MIdas Blennie
Firefish goby
ORA Orchid Dottyback

I have the chance to get a Red Sea Mimic Blenny. Will this be a problem with my Midas Blenny... it is still very small? Is there any other kind of Blenny that would do OK with the Midas?
Thanks in advance!

snorvich · 11/21/2014, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fessoclown

HI there, my tank is about 130 Gallons- 80x20x20 - (with sump about 160 G)
current stock is:

Redfin Wasp fish
pair of black snowflake clowns
3 PJ cardinals
2 chromis
Flame Hawkfish
Hippo Tang needs a much larger tank
MIdas Blennie
Firefish goby
ORA Orchid Dottyback

I have the chance to get a Red Sea Mimic Blenny. Will this be a problem with my Midas Blenny? Is there any other kind of Blenny that would do OK with the Midas? I would not try any blenny with the Midas blenny. As it is, Midas blennies sometimes nip the fins of planktivores
Thanks in advance!

rishu_pepper · 11/21/2014, 01:27 PM

Getting an established tank from a local. Tank is 90 gallon (48x18x24) with a 30 gallon sump, mixed reef with corals/anemone in place already. There will be a new sandbed around 1" (currently bare bottom). It runs on a Vertex in180. Current livestock:

2x blue chromi
lawnmower blenny
cinnamon clown
tomato clown (this will likely be moved to my 30 gallon in hopes of pairing it an existing tomato in it)
grey eyed moray eel 2'
sea urchin 6"
cleaner shrimp
fire red shrimp
bunch of hermit crabs

(are there anything in there I should remove/sell/drop off to LFS? I'm on the fence about the eel, he looks funny as hell but I'm worried about the bioload. He's lived in it a long time and grew a lot, according to the owner. Also the urchin takes up quite a bit of space, is it a useful part of the system?)

Aside from adding a good amount of CUC to help out, the wife and I are planning to add some more livestock:

abalone
flame angel (I assume this will go in last?)
pair of percula clowns (wife wants to breed clowns, will this be possible? There's a 1' wide sebae anemone and a small RBTA)
goby and shrimp combo

Any other suggestions? I was thinking a reef safe wrasse of some sort, and maybe a dottyback? I guess tangs are out because a 4' is not long enough, or are there acceptable species that will be suitable for this tank? Not too sure about other species of fish/inverts. What are some interesting fish with personality?

How much time should each addition be staggered between each other?

snorvich · 11/21/2014, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rishu_pepper

Getting an established tank from a local. Tank is 90 gallon (48x18x24) with a 30 gallon sump, mixed reef with corals/anemone in place already. There will be a new sandbed around 1" (currently bare bottom). It runs on a Vertex in180. Current livestock:

2x blue chromi
lawnmower blenny
cinnamon clown
tomato clown (this will likely be moved to my 30 gallon in hopes of pairing it an existing tomato in it) long term a pair of the same species of clownfish is more desirable; however a pair of tomato clowns is on the aggressive side once mating
grey eyed moray eel 2' I am not big on community tanks with eels because they are messy and because they can be pretty aggressive
sea urchin 6" I am not a big believer in urchins despite having a few tuxedo urchins in my large tanks
cleaner shrimp
fire red shrimp
bunch of hermit crabs I prefer various snail types rather than hermits

(are there anything in there I should remove/sell/drop off to LFS? I'm on the fence about the eel, he looks funny as hell but I'm worried about the bioload. He's lived in it a long time and grew a lot, according to the owner. Also the urchin takes up quite a bit of space, is it a useful part of the system?)

Aside from adding a good amount of CUC to help out, the wife and I are planning to add some more livestock:

abalone this is a cool water animal not consistent with the animals you have
flame angel (I assume this will go in last?)
pair of percula clowns (wife wants to breed clowns, will this be possible? not with existing clownfish There's a 1' wide sebae anemone and a small RBTA)
goby and shrimp combo

Any other suggestions? I was thinking a reef safe wrasse of some sort excellent idea, flashers are excellent, and maybe a dottyback aggressive; I do not recommend as it limits tank mates going forward ? I guess tangs are out because a 4' is not long enough, or are there acceptable species yes, kole tangs and others of that family would work that will be suitable for this tank? Not too sure about other species of fish/inverts. What are some interesting fish with personality?

How much time should each addition be staggered between each other? I suggest a quarantine protocol of tank transfer (12 days) and at least 3 weeks additional observation

rishu_pepper · 11/21/2014, 05:03 PM

Thank you so much Snorvich! You've given me a lot of good things to ponder about. I'll probably let go of some of the existing livestock as you suggested. They'll find a good home somewhere or at our good LFS.

Will look for other fish in the meantime.

Any other that I didn't mention would be nice additions to the tank? Nothing too difficult to take care of, I am admittedly a beginner aquarist. Thanks again!

11/21/2014, 01:53 AM	#12790
JoelA7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,056	Hi Steve, Posted earlier: Hi Steve, Would a Hutchii Anthias (male) coexist with a male (or females) of other Anthias? You needed more specifics. I'm thinking a Disbar or Randall's. Thank you. __________________ New 48x24x26.25 w Precision Marine R30 sump, Vertex Omega 150 skimmer, 2@Vertex 1.5L reactors for carbon & phosban, GEO Ca reactor w Aquarium Plants regulator. 2 MP40's 2@Radions. #120 live rock & #12

11/21/2014, 09:33 AM	#12795
JoelA7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,056	Thanks Steve. __________________ New 48x24x26.25 w Precision Marine R30 sump, Vertex Omega 150 skimmer, 2@Vertex 1.5L reactors for carbon & phosban, GEO Ca reactor w Aquarium Plants regulator. 2 MP40's 2@Radions. #120 live rock & #12

11/21/2014, 09:57 AM	#12796
fessoclown Dis-Membered Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Toronto Island Posts: 443	HI there, my tank is about 130 Gallons- 80x20x20 - (with sump about 160 G) current stock is: Redfin Wasp fish pair of black snowflake clowns 3 PJ cardinals 2 chromis Flame Hawkfish Hippo Tang MIdas Blennie Firefish goby ORA Orchid Dottyback I have the chance to get a Red Sea Mimic Blenny. Will this be a problem with my Midas Blenny... it is still very small? Is there any other kind of Blenny that would do OK with the Midas? Thanks in advance! __________________ "Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana." Marx (Groucho) 80x20x20 Miracles Starfire Rimless, H&S A150-2001, GEO 612 CRx, GEO UMC420, Avast ATO, Gyre 150, Gyre 130, MP40, Eheim 1262, ATI

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Zswift Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 161	48"x24"x24" DT 40 breeder sump Lamarck Angelfish female 2 class A Davinci Clownfish Starry Benny 3-5 Bartletts anthias Purple tang Possibly a shrimp and goby pair. Is this okay?

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DrBoxedWine Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 899	Hi Snorvich, I've talked with him you multiple times about my 75g stock list, and you had recommended a firefish goby. I got one and he's doing great, but last night I picked up another fish and I got to talking with the employee at the Lfs. He said firefish do great in pairs. I feel like I've heard they won't get along in a smaller tank like mine. Do you think 2 would be friends in a 75g? I also have a Kole tang, coral beauty, bicolor blenny, flame hawk, 2 clowns, and a one spot foxface.

11/20/2014, 07:32 PM	#12785
sbash Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 98	I have a 65 gallon reef tank (36"L x 18"W x 24"H). I Currently have: Ocellaris Clownfish (Pair) Blue/Green Chromis Looking to add: Neon Blenny Dottyback Pair of Bangaii Cardinal Fairy Wrasse Firefish Yellow Tail Damsel Aside from the cardinals, they will all be single fish. How does that look? The type of Dottyback and Wrasse will depend on what I can get locally. Your input is appreciated.

11/20/2014, 07:49 PM	#12789
sbash Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 98	Okay, I will drop the Dottyback then... Thanks!

11/21/2014, 07:38 AM	#12793
QuiGonJay Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 327	Thanks again for all the great advice. I have a 30 gallon with about 25 pounds of live rock. Currently a striped blenny and watchman goby along with cleanup crew are there. Was thinking of adding one more 'water column' fish but must be captive bred. Bandai cardinal is my thought, afraid any other goby or blenny would conflict with existing crew. Would 1 or 2 cardinals be appropriate for such a small tank? Thanks

11/21/2014, 01:27 PM	#12798
rishu_pepper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 310	Getting an established tank from a local. Tank is 90 gallon (48x18x24) with a 30 gallon sump, mixed reef with corals/anemone in place already. There will be a new sandbed around 1" (currently bare bottom). It runs on a Vertex in180. Current livestock: 2x blue chromi lawnmower blenny cinnamon clown tomato clown (this will likely be moved to my 30 gallon in hopes of pairing it an existing tomato in it) grey eyed moray eel 2' sea urchin 6" cleaner shrimp fire red shrimp bunch of hermit crabs (are there anything in there I should remove/sell/drop off to LFS? I'm on the fence about the eel, he looks funny as hell but I'm worried about the bioload. He's lived in it a long time and grew a lot, according to the owner. Also the urchin takes up quite a bit of space, is it a useful part of the system?) Aside from adding a good amount of CUC to help out, the wife and I are planning to add some more livestock: abalone flame angel (I assume this will go in last?) pair of percula clowns (wife wants to breed clowns, will this be possible? There's a 1' wide sebae anemone and a small RBTA) goby and shrimp combo Any other suggestions? I was thinking a reef safe wrasse of some sort, and maybe a dottyback? I guess tangs are out because a 4' is not long enough, or are there acceptable species that will be suitable for this tank? Not too sure about other species of fish/inverts. What are some interesting fish with personality? How much time should each addition be staggered between each other?

11/21/2014, 05:03 PM	#12800
rishu_pepper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 310	Thank you so much Snorvich! You've given me a lot of good things to ponder about. I'll probably let go of some of the existing livestock as you suggested. They'll find a good home somewhere or at our good LFS. Will look for other fish in the meantime. Any other that I didn't mention would be nice additions to the tank? Nothing too difficult to take care of, I am admittedly a beginner aquarist. Thanks again!