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Unread 12/10/2014, 11:27 AM   #12976
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I have a 55 gallon and was planning on restocking. Here are my ideas:

- 2 occelaris clowns
- Midas blenny
- royal gramma
- melanarus wrasse
- some kind of goby but not sure yet.


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Unread 12/10/2014, 11:30 AM   #12977
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I'm currently quarantining two Ocellaris Clowns and a blue neon goby for a new 29 gallon standard and 10 gallon refugium/sump setup. I plan on having a mixed reef. Running a BH-1000 skimmer and GFO/carbon reactors. I would like to add a green or red mandarin and a fire fish later. Using the surface area/inch of fish method this seems borderline but probably ok. Would this combination of fish be ok?


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Unread 12/10/2014, 03:29 PM   #12978
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I have a 55 gallon and was planning on restocking. Here are my ideas:

- 2 occelaris clowns
- Midas blenny
- royal gramma
- melanarus wrasse
- some kind of goby but not sure yet.
should be fine


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Unread 12/10/2014, 03:30 PM   #12979
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I'm currently quarantining two Ocellaris Clowns and a blue neon goby for a new 29 gallon standard and 10 gallon refugium/sump setup. I plan on having a mixed reef. Running a BH-1000 skimmer and GFO/carbon reactors. I would like to add a green or red mandarin and a fire fish later. Using the surface area/inch of fish method this seems borderline but probably ok. Would this combination of fish be ok?
There is no such thing as a "surface area/inch of fish method". The firefish will be fine, the mandarin will starve to death without exceptional efforts.


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Unread 12/10/2014, 03:58 PM   #12980
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There is no such thing as a "surface area/inch of fish method". The firefish will be fine, the mandarin will starve to death without exceptional efforts.

I have read several places that a good tool to estimate the total linear inches of fish for a tank is take the surface area of the water exposed to air dived by 48in^2. If there is no such thing as that, do you have a suggestion for estimating the total number of fish that should be put in an aquarium? I understand there are many of factors that determine what can be kept. Just looking for a simple method to estimate quantity.


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Unread 12/10/2014, 04:43 PM   #12981
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Hey guys. I'm new to salt from the planted tank realm and am planning out a nano salt tank

It will be a reef tank. However the coral selection is still TBD

Tank 12G Fluval edge

10-12lbs live rock.
Jebao RW-4 Wavemaker
Stock aquaclear 20 (mechanical filtration for now. may turn into amini fuge..)
Lighting 36W led which will be dimmed down. room for future coral expansion

1x Yellow Clown Goby
1x Banggai CardinaFish (possibly? Oky for 12g?) .. Still searching for other appropriate nano fish

Bottom Dweller
Green Glown Goby or watchamnn goby

Inverts
1x Fire Shrimp
1-2x Cleaner shrimp

Thanks for the help/advice!


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Unread 12/10/2014, 04:52 PM   #12982
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Hi. Here's a revised list, if you don't mind. This is a 30 gallon tank (some of which is used by a built-in sump), no external sump, 25lbs of live rock. No fish yet. How's this for a plan, in order of introduction?

Banggai cardinal (in QT)
Royal gramma
Orange stripe prawn goby
Zebra barred dartfish
Pair of Occelaris clownfish

This list used to have a firefish instead of the dartfish, which you thought was ok, but the dartfish gets a little bigger so I was wondering if its still ok.
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I have read several places that a good tool to estimate the total linear inches of fish for a tank is take the surface area of the water exposed to air dived by 48in^2. If there is no such thing as that, do you have a suggestion for estimating the total number of fish that should be put in an aquarium? I understand there are many of factors that determine what can be kept. Just looking for a simple method to estimate quantity.
There are no simple or even complex rules. You need to consider fish size, fish behavior, fish ecological niche, fish need for territory, and fish activity level, and for some fish, tank length. If you are reading that there are rules like that, you are reading the wrong stuff.


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Unread 12/10/2014, 05:52 PM   #12984
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Hey guys. I'm new to salt from the planted tank realm and am planning out a nano salt tank

It will be a reef tank. However the coral selection is still TBD

Tank 12G Fluval edge

10-12lbs live rock.
Jebao RW-4 Wavemaker
Stock aquaclear 20 (mechanical filtration for now. may turn into amini fuge..)
Lighting 36W led which will be dimmed down. room for future coral expansion

1x Yellow Clown Goby
1x Banggai CardinaFish needs a larger tank (possibly? Oky for 12g?) .. Still searching for other appropriate nano fish

Bottom Dweller
Green Glown Goby or watchamnn goby

Inverts
1x Fire Shrimp
1-2x Cleaner shrimp

Thanks for the help/advice!
You can have two non-territorial requiring small fish in this sized tank. Shrimp of the type you selected are fine.


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Unread 12/10/2014, 05:55 PM   #12985
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Hi. Here's a revised list, if you don't mind.

Never a problem, feel free to resubmit

This is a 30 gallon tank (some of which is used by a built-in sump), no external sump, 25lbs of live rock. No fish yet. How's this for a plan, in order of introduction?

Banggai cardinal (in QT)
Royal gramma
Orange stripe prawn goby
Zebra barred dartfish
Pair of Occelaris clownfish

The clownfish, once sexually mature, will be the binding constraint on this sized tank as they will want to control 20-25 gallons of tank space. If you subtract the clownfish, the list above is fine.

This list used to have a firefish instead of the dartfish, which you thought was ok, but the dartfish gets a little bigger so I was wondering if its still ok.
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Unread 12/10/2014, 08:36 PM   #12986
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Thanks Steve, really appreciate the help. Just to make sure I understood: it's not firefish vs dartfish, neither would work in a tank this size combined with clowns?


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Thanks Steve, really appreciate the help. Just to make sure I understood: it's not firefish vs dartfish, neither would work in a tank this size combined with clowns?
The problem is that firefish are easily intimidated and you would rarely see the dartfish once the clownfish become sexually mature because they would guard their 20-25 gallons of tank space.


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The problem is that firefish are easily intimidated and you would rarely see the dartfish once the clownfish become sexually mature because they would guard their 20-25 gallons of tank space.
Understood. Thanks again! I should have started with a larger tank.


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Understood. Thanks again! I should have started with a larger tank.
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Unread 12/11/2014, 02:56 AM   #12990
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So after constantly using this site viewing other peoples questions, I have finally decided to join!

I am purchasing an AquaReef 275 Cube soon, and will be starting my first marine tank. It's a 275L (72 Gallon) cube tank, lighting, sump and skimmer included. http://www.fantaseaaquariums.com.au/...e-aquareef-275

Eventually I will be getting corals, so I need fish that will be reef safe

This is my wish list for stocking so far:

Banggai Cardinal
Pajama Cardinal (Spotted Cardinal)
2 x Ocellaris clownfish
Purple Firefish
and a peppermint shrimp.

I am wondering what else I can add to the tank, I want a nice feature fish that will stand out but get along with the others.

Also thinking a Goby and Shrimp pair would be awesome!


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Unread 12/11/2014, 07:13 AM   #12991
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Hi Steve,

I have been refining my plans for my currently cycling DT and would appreciate your thoughts. Tank is 34 gallons (inc rear sump) and has 45lbs of live rock. Current CUC is assorted snails but plan on adding 2 skunk cleaner shrimps later. Will also be adding softies and LPS corals.

Current stock in QT:

1 Bicolour Blenny

Planned additions:

2 Ocellaris Clowns
1 Hi-Fin (Antenna) goby with Alpheus Randalli pistol shrimp
1 Royal Gramma
1 Banggai Cardinalfish

I would also like your thoughts on any stocking order I should follow.

Thank you!


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Hi Steve,

I have been refining my plans for my currently cycling DT and would appreciate your thoughts. Tank is 34 gallons (inc rear sump) and has 45lbs of live rock. Current CUC is assorted snails but plan on adding 2 skunk cleaner shrimps later. Will also be adding softies and LPS corals.

Current stock in QT:

1 Bicolour Blenny

Planned additions:

2 Ocellaris Clowns
1 Hi-Fin (Antenna) goby with Alpheus Randalli pistol shrimp
1 Royal Gramma
1 Banggai Cardinalfish

I would also like your thoughts on any stocking order I should follow.

Thank you!
should be fine; royal gramma last


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Wow! A response within 15 minutes...you provide an incredible service Steve!


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Unread 12/11/2014, 01:33 PM   #12994
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we have a 125g with 55g refugium, skimmer, live rock.

Currently have mixed reef - softies, LPS, & mushrooms.

Current fish: Perc clown, royal Gramma, neon goby, & Pink Spotted Watchman Goby

We are currently tying to plan out our future stocking list. Here are some of the ideas we have:
McCosker's Wrasse (this is pretty much a set thing, we have a covered tank as sadly we learned that lesson several years ago and do not wish to repeat it)
Scott's Fairy Wrasse
Purple firefish
Midas Blenny
Flame Hawk (only if we decide not to go with any shrimp. the verdict is still out)

We were in the LFS store today and saw a Hectors' Goby that my husband liked. This would be a consideration, however did not know how that would go with the neon goby and if they will coexist.

Also saw a red tail honey damsel, that we were told by LFS was peaceful??? I cannot find much info on this and thought that damsels tended to be aggressive. We would be happy with this instead of Hawk if we decide to get shrimp and it would work with the above fish.

Would like a larger fish, however not really interested in Tangs or Angels. So we are pretty early in the planning stage.
Thanks for any advise.


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we have a 125g with 55g refugium, skimmer, live rock.

Currently have mixed reef - softies, LPS, & mushrooms.

Current fish: Perc clown, royal Gramma, neon goby, & Pink Spotted Watchman Goby

We are currently tying to plan out our future stocking list. Here are some of the ideas we have:
McCosker's Wrasse (this is pretty much a set thing, we have a covered tank as sadly we learned that lesson several years ago and do not wish to repeat it)
Scott's Fairy Wrasse I would advise against this because of its aggressive nature and because over time it will lose coloration absent a female; I would suggest replacement with another flasher wrasse of a different species (except 8-line from Red Sea)
Purple firefish
Midas Blenny
Flame Hawk (only if we decide not to go with any shrimp. the verdict is still out) As you know, not shrimp safe

We were in the LFS store today and saw a Hectors' Goby that my husband liked. This would be a consideration, however did not know how that would go with the neon goby and if they will coexist. should be fine

Also saw a red tail honey damsel, that we were told by LFS was peaceful??? I cannot find much info on this and thought that damsels tended to be aggressive. We would be happy with this instead of Hawk if we decide to get shrimp and it would work with the above fish. because of their aggressive nature, I do not recommend stegaster mellis or any other damsel.

Would like a larger fish, however not really interested in Tangs or Angels. So we are pretty early in the planning stage.
Thanks for any advise.
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Thanks for the input! I really didn't believe it when they said the damsels were peaceful, but just wanted to double check. Appreciate the feedback.


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How many flasher wrasses could you keep in a 125 with the above list?


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Steve, can you please check my list?


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How many flasher wrasses could you keep in a 125 with the above list?
No real answer. 3-4 would be safe but not of the same species. However, with different species you can have a male and multiple females.


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Steve, can you please check my list?
Sure, I would be happy to do so. Be sure to provide tank size and total fish stocking plan.


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