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snorvich · 12/21/2014, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atf22

Kind of updated the list last night, here's what i'm thinking now

-Potters Angel/Flame Angel/Coral Beauty -Yellow Eye Kole Tang
-3 Zebra Barred Dartfish
-Firefish
After this, would i be able to add anymore? I see a lot of peoples tanks and they look so empty... I'm not loading it up with corals, just a couple softies. Thanks you the help!!

Current list in a 75 gallon tank would be fine. Always remember to submit tank size since I cannot go backwards in this thread.

bluecoyote79 · 12/21/2014, 11:40 AM

65g tank with 20g sump

True Perc pair
Fire fish
YWG w/pistol shrimp
Red-lined wrasse
Sub adult McCoskers wrasse

I want to add only one other peaceful flasher to keep them both, well flashing. Narrowed it down to:

Linespot Flasher
Carpenter's Wrasse

Alternatively

Exquisite Fairy
Hooded Fairy

snorvich · 12/21/2014, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecoyote79

65g tank with 20g sump

True Perc pair
Fire fish
YWG w/pistol shrimp
Red-lined wrasse
Sub adult McCoskers wrasse

I want to add only one other peaceful flasher to keep them both, well flashing. Narrowed it down to:

Linespot Flasher This option is better
Carpenter's Wrasse While either is fine, this one is more often available

Alternatively

Exquisite Fairy
Hooded Fairy

eperegoy · 12/21/2014, 07:22 PM

Tank Stats:

75 gal Perfecto tank 48x18x20" off craigslist. (Drilled)
40 gal sump 36x16x16" (four chamber: socks, skimmer, refugium, return)
Glass Holes 1500gph overflow kit with two 1.5" drains
Two 4" filter socks
Coral Box D700 Skimmer (Largest model, probably overkill but adjustable flow)
Refugium: Chaeto, miracle mud, mangrove tree, live rock (Copepod/Amphipods)
Jebao DCT 8000 return pump (again overkill but adjustable flow)
Two Cobalt Neotherm 150w heaters ( one in sump, one in tank)
Flex PVC return line (1")
One Venturi style swirl eductor (1")
Jebao RW-8 Wavemaker (Adjustable flow)
48" Marineland Reef LED (came with tank)
No controller: looking to build Arduino style controller. (Future)
5 stage Reverse Osmosis System without de-ionization (I drink this water too)
Feeding live food: silversides, Cope/Amphi, brine shrimp, garlic, homemade stuff
Red Sea test kit.
Red Sea Coral salt
Jebao Four stage dosing pump (future)
Carbon bags/ possible reactor (future)
BRS Pukani Dry Rock (40-60lbs)
Carib-Sea Ocean Direct grade live sand (80lbs)
All pumps (skimmer, return, wavemaker) are DC power (low heat)

Any feedback on this list is greatly appreciated. I have many of these things, but some I do not have or have not ordered yet (sump, 1500gph overflow kit, flex PVC, dosing pump, carbon/reactor, live sand, Pukani Dry rock) but this is my set plan so far. Also if in the future I can get by with pellets/flakes or any high quality food that is easy feeding I would love that for automation during trips or vacations to minimize my fish sitters job, but i realize this all depends on the fish/coral species in the tank. The reason some of these parts are so powerful is I plan in the future to upgrade to a 150gal tank.

Fish stock list, and reasons:

3 squareback anthias (schooling fish)
1 orange spotted goby (best sandsifter)
1 Starry blenny (rock hopper)
2 clownfish (anemone symbiosis)
1 Dwarf Flame Angel (color, watch out for corals)
1 watchman goby (pistol shrimp symbiosis)
1 pistol shrimp (watchman goby symbiosis)
1 blue tang (color, look out for ick)
1 yellow tang (color, look out for ick)
2 engineer goby (look like eels, won't kill my fish or shrimp)
2 barnacle blenny (shoot out of rocks to feed)
1 molenaris wrasse (buries itself in sand)
1 cleaner wrasse (hopefully to keep tangs free of ick)
2 clams (look cool)
2 harlequin shrimp (feed on choc chip starfish)
1 mandarin goby ( color, eats only Copepods)
Cleanup crew (emerald crabs, snails, hermits, shrimp)

I realize these can be fairly advanced fish to keep, and would like feedback on the list, some of these fish cannot be kept until the tank is well established. I understand that 18 actual fish is a lot to keep in a tank that is 75 gal, however a well known YOUTUBER named reefer Gil has a very similar 75 gal setup with many of the same fish, his has 13 actual fish total. I am willing to part with possibly the anthias although I would really like schooling fish, either the watchman goby or the orange spotted goby if either will pair with a pistol shrimp then I want the orange spotted for its incredible sand sifting abilities. I would also part with the blue tang I'm worried my tank may be too small and I also would part with the cleaner wrasse if you guys do not think he will be needed. Also I need tips on a clean up crew, how much of each emerald, hermit, snail, shrimp etc. I am looking to do SPS and LPS corals and softies and read that hermits and other crabs can puncture the softies and do damage with their pointy legs. Hopefully I can accommodate as many of these creatures into my tank as possible, as I should be able to cycle the water very well and remove much of the bio load with my setup. I am completely new to this and bought my tank off craigslist, but as you can tell I have been researching for monthes now and hope I can pull off one of the most beautiful 75gal reefs around over the next couple years. Any feedback/tips are welcome guys!

Thanks,
Ethan

eperegoy · 12/21/2014, 07:36 PM

Tank Stats:

75 gal Perfecto tank 48x18x20" off craigslist. (Drilled)
40 gal sump 36x16x16" (four chamber: socks, skimmer, refugium, return)
Glass Holes 1500gph overflow kit with two 1.5" drains
Two 4" filter socks
Coral Box D700 Skimmer (Largest model, probably overkill but adjustable flow)
Refugium: Chaeto, miracle mud, mangrove tree, live rock (Copepod/Amphipods)
Jebao DCT 8000 return pump (again overkill but adjustable flow)
Two Cobalt Neotherm 150w heaters ( one in sump, one in tank)
Flex PVC return line (1")
One Venturi style swirl eductor (1")
Jebao RW-8 Wavemaker (Adjustable flow)
48" Marineland Reef LED (came with tank)
No controller: looking to build Arduino style controller. (Future)
5 stage Reverse Osmosis System without de-ionization (I drink this water too)
Feeding live food: silversides, Cope/Amphi, brine shrimp, garlic, homemade stuff
Red Sea test kit.
Red Sea Coral salt
Jebao Four stage dosing pump (future)
Carbon bags/ possible reactor (future)
BRS Pukani Dry Rock (40-60lbs)
Carib-Sea Ocean Direct grade live sand (80lbs)
All pumps (skimmer, return, wavemaker) are DC power (low heat)

Any feedback on this list is greatly appreciated. I have many of these things, but some I do not have or have not ordered yet (sump, 1500gph overflow kit, flex PVC, dosing pump, carbon/reactor, live sand, Pukani Dry rock) but this is my set plan so far. Also if in the future I can get by with pellets/flakes or any high quality food that is easy feeding I would love that for automation during trips or vacations to minimize my fish sitters job, but i realize this all depends on the fish/coral species in the tank. The reason some of these parts are so powerful is I plan in the future to upgrade to a 150gal tank.

Fish stock list, and reasons:

3 squareback anthias (schooling fish)
1 orange spotted goby (best sandsifter)
1 Starry blenny (rock hopper)
2 clownfish (anemone symbiosis)
1 Dwarf Flame Angel (color, watch out for corals)
1 watchman goby (pistol shrimp symbiosis)
1 pistol shrimp (watchman goby symbiosis)
1 blue tang (color, look out for ick)
1 yellow tang (color, look out for ick)
2 engineer goby (look like eels, won't kill my fish or shrimp)
2 barnacle blenny (shoot out of rocks to feed)
1 molenaris wrasse (buries itself in sand)
1 cleaner wrasse (hopefully to keep tangs free of ick)
2 clams (look cool)
2 harlequin shrimp (feed on choc chip starfish)
1 mandarin goby ( color, eats only Copepods)
Cleanup crew (emerald crabs, snails, hermits, shrimp)

I realize these can be fairly advanced fish to keep, and would like feedback on the list, some of these fish cannot be kept until the tank is well established. I understand that 18 actual fish is a lot to keep in a tank that is 75 gal, however a well known YOUTUBER named reefer Gil has a very similar 75 gal setup with many of the same fish, his has 13 actual fish total. I am willing to part with possibly the anthias although I would really like schooling fish, either the watchman goby or the orange spotted goby if either will pair with a pistol shrimp then I want the orange spotted for its incredible sand sifting abilities. I would also part with the blue tang I'm worried my tank may be too small and I also would part with the cleaner wrasse if you guys do not think he will be needed. Also I need tips on a clean up crew, how much of each emerald, hermit, snail, shrimp etc. I am looking to do SPS and LPS corals and softies and read that hermits and other crabs can puncture the softies and do damage with their pointy legs. Hopefully I can accommodate as many of these creatures into my tank as possible, as I should be able to cycle the water very well and remove much of the bio load with my setup. I am completely new to this and bought my tank off craigslist, but as you can tell I have been researching for monthes now and hope I can pull off one of the most beautiful 75gal reefs around over the next couple years. Any feedback/tips are welcome guys!

Thanks,
Ethan

TreyC2010 · 12/22/2014, 08:32 PM

150 gallon reef tank with sump.

1-photon clownfish
1-da vinci grade b clownfish
1-starry blenny
1-shrimp watchman goby w/pistol shrimp
10-peppermint shrimp
1-juvenile blonde naso tang

I am wanting to get

Another Blenny, if possible
1- Purple Tang
1- Royal Gramma
1- Orange Back Fairy Wrasse

Also possibly a sea star, some sea slugs, urchins, and anything interesting that will coexist. Any input or suggestions of fish that would work will be greatly appreciated.

snorvich · 12/22/2014, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreyC2010

150 gallon reef tank with sump.

1-photon clownfish
1-da vinci grade b clownfish
1-starry blenny
1-shrimp watchman goby w/pistol shrimp
10-peppermint shrimp
1-juvenile blonde naso tang needs a much larger tank

I am wanting to get

Another Blenny, if possible
1- Purple Tang find without the naso tang
1- Royal Gramma
1- Orange Back Fairy Wrasse

Also possibly a sea star, some sea slugs, urchins, and anything interesting that will coexist. Any input or suggestions of fish that would work will be greatly appreciated.

Fine except as annotated

DrBoxedWine · 12/22/2014, 08:48 PM

Hi Steve,

My 75g mixed reef stocklist is as follows:
2 Occ Clowns
Flamehawk
One Spot Foxface
Coral Beauty
Bicolor Blenny
Firefish
Kole Tang

I'm finally starting to understand why Mandarin's are considered "expert only" fish, and i think i may hold off on one. I'd like to add a Melanurus wrasse, or maybe a Leapard Wrass? Or a fairy wrasse? Thoughts?

Thanks!!

snorvich · 12/22/2014, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBoxedWine

Hi Steve,

My 75g mixed reef stocklist is as follows:
2 Occ Clowns
Flamehawk
One Spot Foxface
Coral Beauty
Bicolor Blenny
Firefish
Kole Tang

two grazers in this sized tank is not a good idea; also note that foxfaces are not reef safe if hungry

I'm finally starting to understand why Mandarin's are considered "expert only" fish, and i think i may hold off on one. I'd like to add a Melanurus wrasse, or maybe a Leapard Wrass? Or a fairy wrasse? Thoughts?

a leopard wrasse is very marginal in this sized tank for the same reason that a mandarin would be; depending on the species, a fairy wrasse would work; Halichoeres melanurus is fine

Thanks!!

DrBoxedWine · 12/22/2014, 08:53 PM

What about a melanurus? I add noori every 2-3 days as well

snorvich · 12/22/2014, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBoxedWine

What about a melanurus? I add noori every 2-3 days as well

Halichoeres melanurus is fine. For the two grazers add it every day.

DrBoxedWine · 12/22/2014, 08:56 PM

Will do! Do you think a melanurus would be ok?

snorvich · 12/22/2014, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBoxedWine

Will do! Do you think a melanurus would be ok?

As I said, Halichoeres melanurus is fine.

DrBoxedWine · 12/22/2014, 09:19 PM

I missed that in your last post. Thanks!!!

TreyC2010 · 12/22/2014, 09:20 PM

What size tank would be ok for the naso tang?

The one I have is a Marineland CornerFlo 150 Gallon

DaveRaz · 12/22/2014, 10:16 PM

And concerns adding a Midas blemmy as my next fish? Current inhabitants in 90 reef tank are 2 blacker ice clownfish.

BobHelp4 · 12/22/2014, 11:17 PM

I am new to the hobby and new to this site. I have a Coralife Biocube 29 with Intank Media Basket, Tunze 9001 Skimmer, 2 Hydor Koralia 425 w/ Smart Wave system. There is a 10k light, a blue actinic light, and 3 strips of blue LEDS that are hooked up. I have about a 1.5-2 inch sand bed with about 20lbs of live rock that I got from an existing friends tank. I also took his water from his water change when I started my tank on November 12th (I never experienced a "cycle"?). Corals I have are are a Green Tip Torch Coral , Pink Flower Pot Coral, Duncan, Dendro, 2 Gorgonians, and SOME type of goniopora i think that I got for free on a round cool rock. I also have a 2 damsels (which I might get rid of, I just started with them until my tank got to its first cycle) , a very small newly purchased clown, a blood shrimp, and a sexy shrimp which is hosting the torch coral.

I Literally just set up my koralias last night and I am putting them on the smart wave system alternating every 15 seconds.

about a month ago I purchased a good looking Blue Spotted Jawfish. It was doing great for 2 weeks. However i went on a trip and was gone for about 2 weeks. In that time I unfortunately had my friends and brother take care of my tank for me (obviously they don't know it or how to take care of it like I do). I just got back 2 days ago and my fish looked very weak and sickly. The Jawfish had darker rings around its eyes and everything.

Anyways my question is that my local fish store told me that this jawfish was pretty hardy and would live with special care and target feeding like i was doing with a turkey baster every day with mysid and brine shrimp, (it even ate flakes and pellets too). Then I went to a different fish store when i was in a different city to check it out and I decided to ask about the jawfish and they told me it was not very hardy at all and if it lived past the month or 2 mark it should be fine. Well last night I heard some crazy noises slamming against the top of the biocube and when I shined a light on it from my phone i saw the jawfish slamming against the top trying to jump out, which i heard they do frequently. this morning when I woke up he wasn't poking his head out of one of the many holes he has in this great rock I have. I ended up having to do some searching and sure enough he was in the middle of the rocks dead.

Is it that Jawfish are not hardy or did the people I have taking care of my tank just mess up because they didn't know what they were doing for almost 2 weeks. The water parameters were not too bad considering how long I was gone without a water change. nitrates were about 10ppm and phosphates were almost at 0. everything else was fine.

I love it and want to get another one if its possible that it will live. I am also interested in getting rid of my damsels and I want a flame angel, get rid of the clownfish and get a maroon clown, and any other cool fish. Maybe a box fish or some kind of puffer, or anything that will be compatible with my corals and that is colorful. I would LOVE to get a psychedelic Mandrian Goby one day (or would that live if I target fed it everyday?).

ALSO! How can I speed up my purple coraline algae on my rocks? I recently got some Purple Up and I told my LFS about it and they advised me NOT TO USE IT! don't use it anytime soon at least. He said it will "Crash my tank". what does that mean? and is he right?

ANY ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

snorvich · 12/23/2014, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreyC2010

What size tank would be ok for the naso tang?

The one I have is a Marineland CornerFlo 150 Gallon

Here is RC's recommended sizes with tank length being the most important.

snorvich · 12/23/2014, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveRaz

And concerns adding a Midas blemmy as my next fish? Current inhabitants in 90 reef tank are 2 blacker ice clownfish.

Generally a good fish but with a tendency to nip the fins of fish that eat out of the water column (planktivores)

snorvich · 12/23/2014, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobHelp4

I am new to the hobby and new to this site. I have a Coralife Biocube 29 with Intank Media Basket, Tunze 9001 Skimmer, 2 Hydor Koralia 425 w/ Smart Wave system. There is a 10k light, a blue actinic light, and 3 strips of blue LEDS that are hooked up. I have about a 1.5-2 inch sand bed with about 20lbs of live rock that I got from an existing friends tank. I also took his water from his water change when I started my tank on November 12th (I never experienced a "cycle"?). Corals I have are are a Green Tip Torch Coral , Pink Flower Pot Coral, Duncan, Dendro, 2 Gorgonians, and SOME type of goniopora i think that I got for free on a round cool rock. I also have a 2 damsels (which I might get rid of, I just started with them until my tank got to its first cycle) , a very small newly purchased clown, a blood shrimp, and a sexy shrimp which is hosting the torch coral.

I Literally just set up my koralias last night and I am putting them on the smart wave system alternating every 15 seconds.

about a month ago I purchased a good looking Blue Spotted Jawfish. It was doing great for 2 weeks. However i went on a trip and was gone for about 2 weeks. In that time I unfortunately had my friends and brother take care of my tank for me (obviously they don't know it or how to take care of it like I do). I just got back 2 days ago and my fish looked very weak and sickly. The Jawfish had darker rings around its eyes and everything.

Anyways my question is that my local fish store told me that this jawfish was pretty hardy and would live with special care and target feeding like i was doing with a turkey baster every day with mysid and brine shrimp, (it even ate flakes and pellets too). Then I went to a different fish store when i was in a different city to check it out and I decided to ask about the jawfish and they told me it was not very hardy at all and if it lived past the month or 2 mark it should be fine. Well last night I heard some crazy noises slamming against the top of the biocube and when I shined a light on it from my phone i saw the jawfish slamming against the top trying to jump out, which i heard they do frequently. this morning when I woke up he wasn't poking his head out of one of the many holes he has in this great rock I have. I ended up having to do some searching and sure enough he was in the middle of the rocks dead.

Is it that Jawfish are not hardy or did the people I have taking care of my tank just mess up because they didn't know what they were doing for almost 2 weeks. The water parameters were not too bad considering how long I was gone without a water change. nitrates were about 10ppm and phosphates were almost at 0. everything else was fine.

I love it and want to get another one if its possible that it will live. I am also interested in getting rid of my damsels and I want a flame angel, get rid of the clownfish and get a maroon clown, and any other cool fish. Maybe a box fish or some kind of puffer, or anything that will be compatible with my corals and that is colorful. I would LOVE to get a psychedelic Mandrian Goby one day (or would that live if I target fed it everyday?).

ALSO! How can I speed up my purple coraline algae on my rocks? I recently got some Purple Up and I told my LFS about it and they advised me NOT TO USE IT! don't use it anytime soon at least. He said it will "Crash my tank". what does that mean? and is he right?

ANY ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

As one who is new to the hobby the LFS should not have sold you a blue spotted jawfish as they have special requirements. A mandarin is an expert level fish that you need a whole lot of experience with difficult fish, a mature larger tank, and various other conditions being satisfied before trying. You will not be able to keep one simply with target feeding.

eperegoy · 12/23/2014, 01:55 AM

Tank Stats:

75 gal Perfecto tank 48x18x20" off craigslist. (Drilled)
40 gal sump 36x16x16" (four chamber: socks, skimmer, refugium, return)
Glass Holes 1500gph overflow kit with two 1.5" drains
Two 4" filter socks
Coral Box D700 Skimmer (Largest model, probably overkill but adjustable flow)
Refugium: Chaeto, miracle mud, mangrove tree, live rock (Copepod/Amphipods)
Jebao DCT 8000 return pump (again overkill but adjustable flow)
Two Cobalt Neotherm 150w heaters ( one in sump, one in tank)
Flex PVC return line (1")
One Venturi style swirl eductor (1")
Jebao RW-8 Wavemaker (Adjustable flow)
48" Marineland Reef LED (came with tank)
No controller: looking to build Arduino style controller. (Future)
5 stage Reverse Osmosis System without de-ionization (I drink this water too)
Feeding live food: silversides, Cope/Amphi, brine shrimp, garlic, homemade stuff
Red Sea test kit.
Red Sea Coral salt
Jebao Four stage dosing pump (future)
Carbon bags/ possible reactor (future)
BRS Pukani Dry Rock (40-60lbs)
Carib-Sea Ocean Direct grade live sand (80lbs)
All pumps (skimmer, return, wavemaker) are DC power (low heat)

Any feedback on this list is greatly appreciated. I have many of these things, but some I do not have or have not ordered yet (sump, 1500gph overflow kit, flex PVC, dosing pump, carbon/reactor, live sand, Pukani Dry rock) but this is my set plan so far. Also if in the future I can get by with pellets/flakes or any high quality food that is easy feeding I would love that for automation during trips or vacations to minimize my fish sitters job, but i realize this all depends on the fish/coral species in the tank. The reason some of these parts are so powerful is I plan in the future to upgrade to a 150gal tank.

Fish stock list, and reasons:

3 squareback anthias (schooling fish)
1 orange spotted goby (best sandsifter)
1 Starry blenny (rock hopper)
2 clownfish (anemone symbiosis)
1 Dwarf Flame Angel (color, watch out for corals)
1 watchman goby (pistol shrimp symbiosis)
1 pistol shrimp (watchman goby symbiosis)
1 blue tang (color, look out for ick)
1 yellow tang (color, look out for ick)
2 engineer goby (look like eels, won't kill my fish or shrimp)
2 barnacle blenny (shoot out of rocks to feed)
1 molenaris wrasse (buries itself in sand)
1 cleaner wrasse (hopefully to keep tangs free of ick)
2 clams (look cool)
2 harlequin shrimp (feed on choc chip starfish)
1 mandarin goby ( color, eats only Copepods)
Cleanup crew (emerald crabs, snails, hermits, shrimp)

I realize these can be fairly advanced fish to keep, and would like feedback on the list, some of these fish cannot be kept until the tank is well established. I understand that 18 actual fish is a lot to keep in a tank that is 75 gal, however a well known YOUTUBER named reefer Gil has a very similar 75 gal setup with many of the same fish, his has 13 actual fish total. I am willing to part with possibly the anthias although I would really like schooling fish, either the watchman goby or the orange spotted goby if either will pair with a pistol shrimp then I want the orange spotted for its incredible sand sifting abilities. I would also part with the blue tang I'm worried my tank may be too small and I also would part with the cleaner wrasse if you guys do not think he will be needed. Also I need tips on a clean up crew, how much of each emerald, hermit, snail, shrimp etc. I am looking to do SPS and LPS corals and softies and read that hermits and other crabs can puncture the softies and do damage with their pointy legs. Hopefully I can accommodate as many of these creatures into my tank as possible, as I should be able to cycle the water very well and remove much of the bio load with my setup. I am completely new to this and bought my tank off craigslist, but as you can tell I have been researching for monthes now and hope I can pull off one of the most beautiful 75gal reefs around over the next couple years. Any feedback/tips are welcome guys!

Thanks,
Ethan

pdiehm · 12/23/2014, 10:11 AM

Is it possible to keep multiple Wrasse species in a 120 gallon tank?

I love the look of the McCosker's. What, if any, other wrasse would i be ok adding?

snorvich · 12/23/2014, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eperegoy

Tank Stats:

75 gal Perfecto tank 48x18x20" off craigslist. (Drilled)
40 gal sump 36x16x16" (four chamber: socks, skimmer, refugium, return)
Glass Holes 1500gph overflow kit with two 1.5" drains
Two 4" filter socks
Coral Box D700 Skimmer (Largest model, probably overkill but adjustable flow)
Refugium: Chaeto, miracle mud, mangrove tree, live rock (Copepod/Amphipods)
Jebao DCT 8000 return pump (again overkill but adjustable flow)
Two Cobalt Neotherm 150w heaters ( one in sump, one in tank)
Flex PVC return line (1")
One Venturi style swirl eductor (1")
Jebao RW-8 Wavemaker (Adjustable flow)
48" Marineland Reef LED (came with tank)
No controller: looking to build Arduino style controller. (Future)
5 stage Reverse Osmosis System without de-ionization (I drink this water too)
Feeding live food: silversides, Cope/Amphi, brine shrimp, garlic, homemade stuff
Red Sea test kit.
Red Sea Coral salt
Jebao Four stage dosing pump (future)
Carbon bags/ possible reactor (future)
BRS Pukani Dry Rock (40-60lbs)
Carib-Sea Ocean Direct grade live sand (80lbs)
All pumps (skimmer, return, wavemaker) are DC power (low heat)

Any feedback on this list is greatly appreciated. I have many of these things, but some I do not have or have not ordered yet (sump, 1500gph overflow kit, flex PVC, dosing pump, carbon/reactor, live sand, Pukani Dry rock) but this is my set plan so far. Also if in the future I can get by with pellets/flakes or any high quality food that is easy feeding I would love that for automation during trips or vacations to minimize my fish sitters job, but i realize this all depends on the fish/coral species in the tank. The reason some of these parts are so powerful is I plan in the future to upgrade to a 150gal tank.

Fish stock list, and reasons:

3 squareback anthias (schooling fish) A group of anthias really needs a larger tank
1 orange spotted goby (best sandsifter) one shrimp goby, this one or the watchman but not both
1 Starry blenny (rock hopper)
2 clownfish (anemone symbiosis) what species
1 Dwarf Flame Angel (color, watch out for corals) not coral safe
1 watchman goby (pistol shrimp symbiosis) one shrimp goby, this one or the watchman but not both
1 pistol shrimp (watchman goby symbiosis)
1 blue tang (color, look out for ick) needs a much larger tank
1 yellow tang (color, look out for ick) needs a larger tank
2 engineer goby (look like eels, won't kill my fish or shrimp) they move stuff around and get large; I doubt that you will be pleased
2 barnacle blenny (shoot out of rocks to feed)
1 molenaris wrasse (buries itself in sand)
1 cleaner wrasse (hopefully to keep tangs free of ick) has no efffect on ich; most starve to death except the African endemic
2 clams (look cool) depends on lighting
2 harlequin shrimp (feed on choc chip starfish) are you prepared to sacrifice one of these every three weeks?
1 mandarin goby ( color, eats only Copepods) nine months of tank maturity and no copepod competition
Cleanup crew (emerald crabs, snails, hermits, shrimp) I would not mix snails and hermits as the hermits will kill them

I realize these can be fairly advanced fish to keep, and would like feedback on the list, some of these fish cannot be kept until the tank is well established. I understand that 18 actual fish is a lot to keep in a tank that is 75 gal, however a well known YOUTUBER named reefer Gil has a very similar 75 gal setup with many of the same fish, his has 13 actual fish total.

Just because someone does it, does not mean it is a good thing to do. But if you prefer to use Gil as your information source, I will not be offended in the least. If Gil is doing that, his husbandry is not very good for long term success.

I am willing to part with possibly the anthias although I would really like schooling fish, they will not school in your tank

either the watchman goby or the orange spotted goby if either will pair with a pistol shrimp then I want the orange spotted for its incredible sand sifting abilities. Either will pair with a pistol shrimp; however if you are planning corals, you probably are not going to be pleased with a sand sifting fish.

I would also part with the blue tang I'm worried my tank may be too small and I also would part with the cleaner wrasse if you guys do not think he will be needed. Also I need tips on a clean up crew, how much of each emerald, hermit, snail, shrimp etc. I am looking to do SPS and LPS corals and softies and read that hermits and other crabs can puncture the softies and do damage with their pointy legs. Hopefully I can accommodate as many of these creatures into my tank as possible, as I should be able to cycle the water very well and remove much of the bio load with my setup. I am completely new to this and bought my tank off craigslist, but as you can tell I have been researching for monthes now and hope I can pull off one of the most beautiful 75gal reefs around over the next couple years. Any feedback/tips are welcome guys!

Thanks,
Ethan

If you want general commentary, post your question in Reef Discussion or Reef Fish. This thread is only answered by me.

snorvich · 12/23/2014, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdiehm

Is it possible to keep multiple Wrasse species in a 120 gallon tank?

I love the look of the McCosker's. What, if any, other wrasse would i be ok adding?

Absolutely. However you could not keep a sixline wrasse or almost any dottyback with flasher wrasses.

Zacht · 12/23/2014, 05:32 PM

I am about to set up a 55g standard size with a 20 gallon+ Refugium/sump with plenty of live sand and live rock

I want to keep corals maybe LPS
Fish I am considering
1 flame angel
2 sleeper gold head gobies
1 kole yellow eye tang
1 red mandarin once the tank is mature
2 firefish
1 small puffer not sure which variety
Emerald crabs
Some nassarius snails
Any advice would be much appreciated. I understand my tank is a little small for a tang but plan on getting a juvenile and will most likely set up a 180 gallon in the next year or so.

12/21/2014, 07:22 PM	#13104
eperegoy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: St. Paul, NE Posts: 7	New reefer, will my 75 gal tank support this stock of fish? Tank Stats: 75 gal Perfecto tank 48x18x20" off craigslist. (Drilled) 40 gal sump 36x16x16" (four chamber: socks, skimmer, refugium, return) Glass Holes 1500gph overflow kit with two 1.5" drains Two 4" filter socks Coral Box D700 Skimmer (Largest model, probably overkill but adjustable flow) Refugium: Chaeto, miracle mud, mangrove tree, live rock (Copepod/Amphipods) Jebao DCT 8000 return pump (again overkill but adjustable flow) Two Cobalt Neotherm 150w heaters ( one in sump, one in tank) Flex PVC return line (1") One Venturi style swirl eductor (1") Jebao RW-8 Wavemaker (Adjustable flow) 48" Marineland Reef LED (came with tank) No controller: looking to build Arduino style controller. (Future) 5 stage Reverse Osmosis System without de-ionization (I drink this water too) Feeding live food: silversides, Cope/Amphi, brine shrimp, garlic, homemade stuff Red Sea test kit. Red Sea Coral salt Jebao Four stage dosing pump (future) Carbon bags/ possible reactor (future) BRS Pukani Dry Rock (40-60lbs) Carib-Sea Ocean Direct grade live sand (80lbs) All pumps (skimmer, return, wavemaker) are DC power (low heat) Any feedback on this list is greatly appreciated. I have many of these things, but some I do not have or have not ordered yet (sump, 1500gph overflow kit, flex PVC, dosing pump, carbon/reactor, live sand, Pukani Dry rock) but this is my set plan so far. Also if in the future I can get by with pellets/flakes or any high quality food that is easy feeding I would love that for automation during trips or vacations to minimize my fish sitters job, but i realize this all depends on the fish/coral species in the tank. The reason some of these parts are so powerful is I plan in the future to upgrade to a 150gal tank. Fish stock list, and reasons: 3 squareback anthias (schooling fish) 1 orange spotted goby (best sandsifter) 1 Starry blenny (rock hopper) 2 clownfish (anemone symbiosis) 1 Dwarf Flame Angel (color, watch out for corals) 1 watchman goby (pistol shrimp symbiosis) 1 pistol shrimp (watchman goby symbiosis) 1 blue tang (color, look out for ick) 1 yellow tang (color, look out for ick) 2 engineer goby (look like eels, won't kill my fish or shrimp) 2 barnacle blenny (shoot out of rocks to feed) 1 molenaris wrasse (buries itself in sand) 1 cleaner wrasse (hopefully to keep tangs free of ick) 2 clams (look cool) 2 harlequin shrimp (feed on choc chip starfish) 1 mandarin goby ( color, eats only Copepods) Cleanup crew (emerald crabs, snails, hermits, shrimp) I realize these can be fairly advanced fish to keep, and would like feedback on the list, some of these fish cannot be kept until the tank is well established. I understand that 18 actual fish is a lot to keep in a tank that is 75 gal, however a well known YOUTUBER named reefer Gil has a very similar 75 gal setup with many of the same fish, his has 13 actual fish total. I am willing to part with possibly the anthias although I would really like schooling fish, either the watchman goby or the orange spotted goby if either will pair with a pistol shrimp then I want the orange spotted for its incredible sand sifting abilities. I would also part with the blue tang I'm worried my tank may be too small and I also would part with the cleaner wrasse if you guys do not think he will be needed. Also I need tips on a clean up crew, how much of each emerald, hermit, snail, shrimp etc. I am looking to do SPS and LPS corals and softies and read that hermits and other crabs can puncture the softies and do damage with their pointy legs. Hopefully I can accommodate as many of these creatures into my tank as possible, as I should be able to cycle the water very well and remove much of the bio load with my setup. I am completely new to this and bought my tank off craigslist, but as you can tell I have been researching for monthes now and hope I can pull off one of the most beautiful 75gal reefs around over the next couple years. Any feedback/tips are welcome guys! Thanks, Ethan

12/22/2014, 08:32 PM	#13106
TreyC2010 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Mississippi Posts: 14	150 gallon reef tank with sump. 1-photon clownfish 1-da vinci grade b clownfish 1-starry blenny 1-shrimp watchman goby w/pistol shrimp 10-peppermint shrimp 1-juvenile blonde naso tang I am wanting to get Another Blenny, if possible 1- Purple Tang 1- Royal Gramma 1- Orange Back Fairy Wrasse Also possibly a sea star, some sea slugs, urchins, and anything interesting that will coexist. Any input or suggestions of fish that would work will be greatly appreciated. __________________ Just call me "The Reefer". Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef/fish tank. EQUIPMENT: Two Emperor 400 Power filters, reef octopus classic 90 HOB skimmer, koralia 425 & 600 powerheads, 48" Fluval LED, 2 100 watt Aqueon heaters.

12/22/2014, 09:20 PM	#13115
TreyC2010 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Mississippi Posts: 14	What size tank would be ok for the naso tang? The one I have is a Marineland CornerFlo 150 Gallon __________________ Just call me "The Reefer". Current Tank Info: 55 gallon reef/fish tank. EQUIPMENT: Two Emperor 400 Power filters, reef octopus classic 90 HOB skimmer, koralia 425 & 600 powerheads, 48" Fluval LED, 2 100 watt Aqueon heaters.

12/22/2014, 11:17 PM	#13117
BobHelp4 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 10	please can I get some feedback on my setup so far and my near future plans I am new to the hobby and new to this site. I have a Coralife Biocube 29 with Intank Media Basket, Tunze 9001 Skimmer, 2 Hydor Koralia 425 w/ Smart Wave system. There is a 10k light, a blue actinic light, and 3 strips of blue LEDS that are hooked up. I have about a 1.5-2 inch sand bed with about 20lbs of live rock that I got from an existing friends tank. I also took his water from his water change when I started my tank on November 12th (I never experienced a "cycle"?). Corals I have are are a Green Tip Torch Coral , Pink Flower Pot Coral, Duncan, Dendro, 2 Gorgonians, and SOME type of goniopora i think that I got for free on a round cool rock. I also have a 2 damsels (which I might get rid of, I just started with them until my tank got to its first cycle) , a very small newly purchased clown, a blood shrimp, and a sexy shrimp which is hosting the torch coral. I Literally just set up my koralias last night and I am putting them on the smart wave system alternating every 15 seconds. about a month ago I purchased a good looking Blue Spotted Jawfish. It was doing great for 2 weeks. However i went on a trip and was gone for about 2 weeks. In that time I unfortunately had my friends and brother take care of my tank for me (obviously they don't know it or how to take care of it like I do). I just got back 2 days ago and my fish looked very weak and sickly. The Jawfish had darker rings around its eyes and everything. Anyways my question is that my local fish store told me that this jawfish was pretty hardy and would live with special care and target feeding like i was doing with a turkey baster every day with mysid and brine shrimp, (it even ate flakes and pellets too). Then I went to a different fish store when i was in a different city to check it out and I decided to ask about the jawfish and they told me it was not very hardy at all and if it lived past the month or 2 mark it should be fine. Well last night I heard some crazy noises slamming against the top of the biocube and when I shined a light on it from my phone i saw the jawfish slamming against the top trying to jump out, which i heard they do frequently. this morning when I woke up he wasn't poking his head out of one of the many holes he has in this great rock I have. I ended up having to do some searching and sure enough he was in the middle of the rocks dead. Is it that Jawfish are not hardy or did the people I have taking care of my tank just mess up because they didn't know what they were doing for almost 2 weeks. The water parameters were not too bad considering how long I was gone without a water change. nitrates were about 10ppm and phosphates were almost at 0. everything else was fine. I love it and want to get another one if its possible that it will live. I am also interested in getting rid of my damsels and I want a flame angel, get rid of the clownfish and get a maroon clown, and any other cool fish. Maybe a box fish or some kind of puffer, or anything that will be compatible with my corals and that is colorful. I would LOVE to get a psychedelic Mandrian Goby one day (or would that live if I target fed it everyday?). ALSO! How can I speed up my purple coraline algae on my rocks? I recently got some Purple Up and I told my LFS about it and they advised me NOT TO USE IT! don't use it anytime soon at least. He said it will "Crash my tank". what does that mean? and is he right? ANY ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

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12/21/2014, 11:40 AM	#13102
bluecoyote79 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 380 Blog Entries: 2	65g tank with 20g sump True Perc pair Fire fish YWG w/pistol shrimp Red-lined wrasse Sub adult McCoskers wrasse I want to add only one other peaceful flasher to keep them both, well flashing. Narrowed it down to: Linespot Flasher Carpenter's Wrasse Alternatively Exquisite Fairy Hooded Fairy

12/21/2014, 07:36 PM	#13105
eperegoy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: St. Paul, NE Posts: 7	Tank Stats: 75 gal Perfecto tank 48x18x20" off craigslist. (Drilled) 40 gal sump 36x16x16" (four chamber: socks, skimmer, refugium, return) Glass Holes 1500gph overflow kit with two 1.5" drains Two 4" filter socks Coral Box D700 Skimmer (Largest model, probably overkill but adjustable flow) Refugium: Chaeto, miracle mud, mangrove tree, live rock (Copepod/Amphipods) Jebao DCT 8000 return pump (again overkill but adjustable flow) Two Cobalt Neotherm 150w heaters ( one in sump, one in tank) Flex PVC return line (1") One Venturi style swirl eductor (1") Jebao RW-8 Wavemaker (Adjustable flow) 48" Marineland Reef LED (came with tank) No controller: looking to build Arduino style controller. (Future) 5 stage Reverse Osmosis System without de-ionization (I drink this water too) Feeding live food: silversides, Cope/Amphi, brine shrimp, garlic, homemade stuff Red Sea test kit. Red Sea Coral salt Jebao Four stage dosing pump (future) Carbon bags/ possible reactor (future) BRS Pukani Dry Rock (40-60lbs) Carib-Sea Ocean Direct grade live sand (80lbs) All pumps (skimmer, return, wavemaker) are DC power (low heat) Any feedback on this list is greatly appreciated. I have many of these things, but some I do not have or have not ordered yet (sump, 1500gph overflow kit, flex PVC, dosing pump, carbon/reactor, live sand, Pukani Dry rock) but this is my set plan so far. Also if in the future I can get by with pellets/flakes or any high quality food that is easy feeding I would love that for automation during trips or vacations to minimize my fish sitters job, but i realize this all depends on the fish/coral species in the tank. The reason some of these parts are so powerful is I plan in the future to upgrade to a 150gal tank. Fish stock list, and reasons: 3 squareback anthias (schooling fish) 1 orange spotted goby (best sandsifter) 1 Starry blenny (rock hopper) 2 clownfish (anemone symbiosis) 1 Dwarf Flame Angel (color, watch out for corals) 1 watchman goby (pistol shrimp symbiosis) 1 pistol shrimp (watchman goby symbiosis) 1 blue tang (color, look out for ick) 1 yellow tang (color, look out for ick) 2 engineer goby (look like eels, won't kill my fish or shrimp) 2 barnacle blenny (shoot out of rocks to feed) 1 molenaris wrasse (buries itself in sand) 1 cleaner wrasse (hopefully to keep tangs free of ick) 2 clams (look cool) 2 harlequin shrimp (feed on choc chip starfish) 1 mandarin goby ( color, eats only Copepods) Cleanup crew (emerald crabs, snails, hermits, shrimp) I realize these can be fairly advanced fish to keep, and would like feedback on the list, some of these fish cannot be kept until the tank is well established. I understand that 18 actual fish is a lot to keep in a tank that is 75 gal, however a well known YOUTUBER named reefer Gil has a very similar 75 gal setup with many of the same fish, his has 13 actual fish total. I am willing to part with possibly the anthias although I would really like schooling fish, either the watchman goby or the orange spotted goby if either will pair with a pistol shrimp then I want the orange spotted for its incredible sand sifting abilities. I would also part with the blue tang I'm worried my tank may be too small and I also would part with the cleaner wrasse if you guys do not think he will be needed. Also I need tips on a clean up crew, how much of each emerald, hermit, snail, shrimp etc. I am looking to do SPS and LPS corals and softies and read that hermits and other crabs can puncture the softies and do damage with their pointy legs. Hopefully I can accommodate as many of these creatures into my tank as possible, as I should be able to cycle the water very well and remove much of the bio load with my setup. I am completely new to this and bought my tank off craigslist, but as you can tell I have been researching for monthes now and hope I can pull off one of the most beautiful 75gal reefs around over the next couple years. Any feedback/tips are welcome guys! Thanks, Ethan

12/22/2014, 08:48 PM	#13108
DrBoxedWine Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 899	Hi Steve, My 75g mixed reef stocklist is as follows: 2 Occ Clowns Flamehawk One Spot Foxface Coral Beauty Bicolor Blenny Firefish Kole Tang I'm finally starting to understand why Mandarin's are considered "expert only" fish, and i think i may hold off on one. I'd like to add a Melanurus wrasse, or maybe a Leapard Wrass? Or a fairy wrasse? Thoughts? Thanks!!

12/22/2014, 08:53 PM	#13110
DrBoxedWine Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 899	What about a melanurus? I add noori every 2-3 days as well

12/22/2014, 08:56 PM	#13112
DrBoxedWine Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 899	Will do! Do you think a melanurus would be ok?

12/22/2014, 09:19 PM	#13114
DrBoxedWine Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 899	I missed that in your last post. Thanks!!!

12/22/2014, 10:16 PM	#13116
DaveRaz Reef Rookie Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Memphis Posts: 625	And concerns adding a Midas blemmy as my next fish? Current inhabitants in 90 reef tank are 2 blacker ice clownfish.

12/23/2014, 01:55 AM	#13121
eperegoy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: St. Paul, NE Posts: 7	Tank Stats: 75 gal Perfecto tank 48x18x20" off craigslist. (Drilled) 40 gal sump 36x16x16" (four chamber: socks, skimmer, refugium, return) Glass Holes 1500gph overflow kit with two 1.5" drains Two 4" filter socks Coral Box D700 Skimmer (Largest model, probably overkill but adjustable flow) Refugium: Chaeto, miracle mud, mangrove tree, live rock (Copepod/Amphipods) Jebao DCT 8000 return pump (again overkill but adjustable flow) Two Cobalt Neotherm 150w heaters ( one in sump, one in tank) Flex PVC return line (1") One Venturi style swirl eductor (1") Jebao RW-8 Wavemaker (Adjustable flow) 48" Marineland Reef LED (came with tank) No controller: looking to build Arduino style controller. (Future) 5 stage Reverse Osmosis System without de-ionization (I drink this water too) Feeding live food: silversides, Cope/Amphi, brine shrimp, garlic, homemade stuff Red Sea test kit. Red Sea Coral salt Jebao Four stage dosing pump (future) Carbon bags/ possible reactor (future) BRS Pukani Dry Rock (40-60lbs) Carib-Sea Ocean Direct grade live sand (80lbs) All pumps (skimmer, return, wavemaker) are DC power (low heat) Any feedback on this list is greatly appreciated. I have many of these things, but some I do not have or have not ordered yet (sump, 1500gph overflow kit, flex PVC, dosing pump, carbon/reactor, live sand, Pukani Dry rock) but this is my set plan so far. Also if in the future I can get by with pellets/flakes or any high quality food that is easy feeding I would love that for automation during trips or vacations to minimize my fish sitters job, but i realize this all depends on the fish/coral species in the tank. The reason some of these parts are so powerful is I plan in the future to upgrade to a 150gal tank. Fish stock list, and reasons: 3 squareback anthias (schooling fish) 1 orange spotted goby (best sandsifter) 1 Starry blenny (rock hopper) 2 clownfish (anemone symbiosis) 1 Dwarf Flame Angel (color, watch out for corals) 1 watchman goby (pistol shrimp symbiosis) 1 pistol shrimp (watchman goby symbiosis) 1 blue tang (color, look out for ick) 1 yellow tang (color, look out for ick) 2 engineer goby (look like eels, won't kill my fish or shrimp) 2 barnacle blenny (shoot out of rocks to feed) 1 molenaris wrasse (buries itself in sand) 1 cleaner wrasse (hopefully to keep tangs free of ick) 2 clams (look cool) 2 harlequin shrimp (feed on choc chip starfish) 1 mandarin goby ( color, eats only Copepods) Cleanup crew (emerald crabs, snails, hermits, shrimp) I realize these can be fairly advanced fish to keep, and would like feedback on the list, some of these fish cannot be kept until the tank is well established. I understand that 18 actual fish is a lot to keep in a tank that is 75 gal, however a well known YOUTUBER named reefer Gil has a very similar 75 gal setup with many of the same fish, his has 13 actual fish total. I am willing to part with possibly the anthias although I would really like schooling fish, either the watchman goby or the orange spotted goby if either will pair with a pistol shrimp then I want the orange spotted for its incredible sand sifting abilities. I would also part with the blue tang I'm worried my tank may be too small and I also would part with the cleaner wrasse if you guys do not think he will be needed. Also I need tips on a clean up crew, how much of each emerald, hermit, snail, shrimp etc. I am looking to do SPS and LPS corals and softies and read that hermits and other crabs can puncture the softies and do damage with their pointy legs. Hopefully I can accommodate as many of these creatures into my tank as possible, as I should be able to cycle the water very well and remove much of the bio load with my setup. I am completely new to this and bought my tank off craigslist, but as you can tell I have been researching for monthes now and hope I can pull off one of the most beautiful 75gal reefs around over the next couple years. Any feedback/tips are welcome guys! Thanks, Ethan

12/23/2014, 10:11 AM	#13122
pdiehm Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 921	Is it possible to keep multiple Wrasse species in a 120 gallon tank? I love the look of the McCosker's. What, if any, other wrasse would i be ok adding?

12/23/2014, 05:32 PM	#13125
Zacht Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 6	I am about to set up a 55g standard size with a 20 gallon+ Refugium/sump with plenty of live sand and live rock I want to keep corals maybe LPS Fish I am considering 1 flame angel 2 sleeper gold head gobies 1 kole yellow eye tang 1 red mandarin once the tank is mature 2 firefish 1 small puffer not sure which variety Emerald crabs Some nassarius snails Any advice would be much appreciated. I understand my tank is a little small for a tang but plan on getting a juvenile and will most likely set up a 180 gallon in the next year or so.