ATI Powermodule Hybrid Club - Page 53

slap · 04/25/2014, 11:43 PM

wow Sahin, looking great

sahin · 04/26/2014, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JPMagyar

Great colors Sahin! Nice work

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Originally Posted by wheelman76

Great looking tank Sahin!!!

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Originally Posted by MSHUR

Sahin,
i dont see brown corals. tank looks great pal.

BTW, soon ill joint the club

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Originally Posted by slap

wow Sahin, looking great

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Originally Posted by MK

Sahin the only brown corals in your tank probably suppose to be brown

great looking sticks !
I finally color up my kedds yellow and this is currently my fastest grower !
I have alk issue so colors aren't right but very close I'm working on it

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Originally Posted by peliCi

Whow those colors... that is'nt only the lighting...

Some of your acro and monti colonies I recognies... but here they are still small... I love them to watch them to grow...

Is that a A. Achilles I spotted?

He is just a Tomini Tang.

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Originally Posted by reefmutt

Hey Sahin, I know I asked this question in your build thread but maybe this is a better place to ask..
I'm curious to know if the LEDs in these fixture really play a role in colouring up the corals or if they are simply for aesthetics.
Any 8 bulb t5 fixture (in the right reefer's hands) has the potential to make any and all sps look like jewels.
Do you really think that the LEDs make the sps look better, or do they really just give the tank that mh look by creating brightness and shimmer?

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Originally Posted by MSHUR

Good question Matt...
I am new to LED but i think in this fixure LED play very small roll in coloring up SPS corals in particular more of a shimmer effect.. I might be wrong

Matt; you are absolutely correct. An 8tube T5 unit in the right hands will absolutely produce stunning colours. I've seen it myself many times. Nothing else needed really.

As for the LED's: here is what a Hybrid unit does for me:
1. Just like when using Radiums 20K's, you get great colours, however many people add VHO Actinics which pop the colours and takes it to another level. In the same way Royal Blue LED's does this for me.

2. The White LED's add a bit of shimmer and help fill in the spectrum.

3. The ability to dim the LED's makes for nice moonlight cycles etc. Plus I can reduce intensity and increase as I like; as well as customising colour.

However, apart from the extra pop that a VHO would also give, an 8tube ATI unit will work wonders.

As for whether the LED's colour up any more; I believe the effect is just instant fluorescence...The best colours I've ever seen in person was my LFS who used to have an 8tube Sunpower over their large display.

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Originally Posted by lsingh

Anyone knows the exact weight of 8x24 bulb fixture. I made a custom light rack done which attaches to my custom made stand. I took the light out of box today and it feels darn heavy like atleast 30lbs if not more . Anyone knows the exact weight bc I don't hve a weighing scale to figure

I weighed the unit: its 11kg.

Anyway, thanks for the compliment guys. And Joe, getting a compliment from you means a lot especially since you are a TOTM winner. Many thanks.

peliCi · 04/26/2014, 12:38 PM

Tomorow we say goodbye to our good old ATI PM 10 X 54W, it did his work very well for 4 years...

On my reserge in this topic I found some interesting T5 bulbs setups, I have to recupurate the 3 mounth old bulbs...
So this is the plan (front to back):

AM Reef blue
D&D Pure Atinic
D&D Aqua Pink
AM Reef Blue
LED LED LED
AM Reef White
AM Reef Blue
D&D Atinic +
D&D Aqua Blue

In the future I'm gonna swich to ATI bulbs, a retailer nearby will provid them :thumbup:

The leds will start at 10%... some of the SPS are situated just under the watersurface... some just on the surface... the grow out of the tank...

Let's add some color... ;-)

Byebye brightness

Btw, sorry for my bad english writing... speaking is much easier...

Pics where taken by my S4, I spend all my money on ATI I can't afford a good camera no more ;-)
I had some PO4 en NO3 problems in the past... but is getting better now, since 8 week I do DSR... all parameters are stable now exept PO4 is a bit difficult to control... from .19 to .08 back to .14 en an hour ago .04 so... messured by Hanna.

Greatings from Belgium,
Peter

flamron · 04/26/2014, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by peliCi

Tomorow we say goodbye to our good old ATI PM 10 X 54W, it did his work very well for 4 years...

On my reserge in this topic I found some interesting T5 bulbs setups, I have to recupurate the 3 mounth old bulbs...
So this is the plan (front to back):

AM Reef blue
D&D Pure Atinic
D&D Aqua Pink
AM Reef Blue
LED LED LED
AM Reef White
AM Reef Blue
D&D Atinic +
D&D Aqua Blue

In the future I'm gonna swich to ATI bulbs, a retailer nearby will provid them :thumbup:

The leds will start at 10%... some of the SPS are situated just under the watersurface... some just on the surface... the grow out of the tank...

Let's add some color... ;-)

Byebye brightness

Btw, sorry for my bad english writing... speaking is much easier...

Pics where taken by my S4, I spend all my money on ATI I can't afford a good camera no more ;-)
I had some PO4 en NO3 problems in the past... but is getting better now, since 8 week I do DSR... all parameters are stable now exept PO4 is a bit difficult to control... from .19 to .08 back to .14 en an hour ago .04 so... messured by Hanna.

Greatings from Belgium,
Peter

reefmutt · 04/26/2014, 12:59 PM

Quoted from Sahin:

Matt; you are absolutely correct. An 8tube T5 unit in the right hands will absolutely produce stunning colours. I've seen it myself many times. Nothing else needed really.

As for the LED's: here is what a Hybrid unit does for me:
1. Just like when using Radiums 20K's, you get great colours, however many people add VHO Actinics which pop the colours and takes it to another level. In the same way Royal Blue LED's does this for me.

2. The White LED's add a bit of shimmer and help fill in the spectrum.

3. The ability to dim the LED's makes for nice moonlight cycles etc. Plus I can reduce intensity and increase as I like; as well as customising colour.

However, apart from the extra pop that a VHO would also give, an 8tube ATI unit will work wonders.

As for whether the LED's colour up any more; I believe the effect is just instant fluorescence...The best colours I've ever seen in person was my LFS who used to have an 8tube Sunpower over their large display.

Sahin, thanks for the info.
Well, I'm just about fed up with playing with my LEDs..
I'm about to add 2x 150w de mh in between my 3 Mitras in an attempt at further bringing out the colours of my sps. I've played for a year with the Mitras and although some corals maintain perfect colours, some do not..
So soon my tank will have 4x t5, 3 Mitras and 2x150w mh..
Now there's a mix for ya..
Sorry for the little led, mh rant in this ati thread!!

As you were, boys!

sahin · 04/27/2014, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by peliCi

Hey Sahin,

Thanks for posting the video again, super! I also appreciate that you want to custumise a light profile. I'm gone a send you a PB... I put my thouths on topic...

Just got a call from my retailer, the beast arrived...

It's the 8 x 54W with 3 x 75 W led. I did a bukb change back in January... so I want to use my 'old' bulbs for a while... I can start with dimming from the start ;-)

These is my light set up till now: (back to front)

Aqua Medic Reef Blue
AM Reef white 10K
Giesemann Pure Atinic
AM Reef white 10K
AM Reef Blue
Giesemann Aqua Bleu
Giesemann Aqua Pink
Gieseman Atinic +
AM 15K
AM Reef blue

The left side of our tankt is fild with mosstly red corals, so I think about to light it with a little more red... the right side I have al couple of small ricordea colonies mayby some more fluoricent effect...

I promice to put some 'makeover' pic in this topic.

Kind regards,
Peter

Hi Peter,

I just sent you a light profile. I put the LED's at 30% with T5's ramping up and down. I think this should be ok for your corals.

Sorry I couldnt send it earlier.

peliCi · 04/28/2014, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sahin

Hi Peter,

I just sent you a light profile. I put the LED's at 30% with T5's ramping up and down. I think this should be ok for your corals.

Sorry I couldnt send it earlier.

Hey Sahin,

I'm glad you wanted to make a lightprofile for me... Respect man!

Just to be sure I reduced the Led intensity to 15%... I'm a scared chicken what mij tank consers...

A quick question: is it posible to create an other (new) setpoint during the night? So I can let the moon shine between 5 am and start sunrise, and between sunset en 12 pm...

Sahin I want to say thanks again for all your time you want to spend on my tank, time you can't spend on enjoyning your...

If I can do someting back, let me now...

Kind regards,
Peter

w.vreeswijk · 04/28/2014, 07:13 AM

Hi sahin my unit is now on my tank what is the best program for the led in a sps dominated.
I have this setting t5.
Current lighting from front to back:
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Actinic
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Coral Plus
LED LED LED LED
ATI Coral Plus
ATI Purple Plus
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Coral Plus

How mutch set i the
Red
Royal blue
Blue
White

Greets wesley

sahin · 04/28/2014, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peliCi

Hey Sahin,

I'm glad you wanted to make a lightprofile for me... Respect man!

Just to be sure I reduced the Led intensity to 15%... I'm a scared chicken what mij tank consers...

A quick question: is it posible to create an other (new) setpoint during the night? So I can let the moon shine between 5 am and start sunrise, and between sunset en 12 pm...

Sahin I want to say thanks again for all your time you want to spend on my tank, time you can't spend on enjoyning your...

If I can do someting back, let me now...

Kind regards,
Peter

Hi Peter, the ATI software currently allows only 10 points of reference to intensity for each channel. So if you want the moon phase, you need to change the current program slightly...

If you see the program I sent you, just play with it and you can create something you like. Use the video link I posted a page or so back to get familiar with the software. Trust me, play with the software, you will quickly understand how it works and you can even create custom programs for other people.

sahin · 04/28/2014, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.vreeswijk

Hi sahin my unit is now on my tank what is the best program for the led in a sps dominated.
I have this setting t5.
Current lighting from front to back:
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Actinic
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Coral Plus
LED LED LED LED
ATI Coral Plus
ATI Purple Plus
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Coral Plus

How mutch set i the
Red
Royal blue
Blue
White

Greets wesley

Wesley, I must say that is a beautiful tank!

In your combo above, you are using:
ATI Blue Plus x 3
ATI Actinic x 1
ATI Coral Plus x 3
ATI Purple Plus x 1

IMO that is plenty of Red end of the spectrum. Run LED's NUMBERS as follows:

Red: 5-10 max.
RoyalBlue: 255.
Blue: 125, go higher if you want, but I'd keep it max around 175.
White: 65 because you are already running plenty of the daylight tubes.

w.vreeswijk · 04/28/2014, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahin

Wesley, I must say that is a beautiful tank!

In your combo above, you are using:

ATI Blue Plus x 3

ATI Actinic x 1

ATI Coral Plus x 3

ATI Purple Plus x 1

IMO that is plenty of Red end of the spectrum. Run LED's NUMBERS as follows:

Red: 5-10 max.

RoyalBlue: 255.

Blue: 125, go higher if you want, but I'd keep it max around 175.

White: 65 because you are already running plenty of the daylight tubes.

Hi sahin it is allmost the setting who is runnig.
In my eyes is it to much blue.
The only thing is that the led is running at 60%
Here some more pictures.

Greets wesley

sahin · 04/28/2014, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.vreeswijk

Hi sahin it is allmost the setting who is runnig.
In my eyes is it to much blue.
The only thing is that the led is running at 60%
Here some more pictures.

Greets wesley

OK, try these setting:

Red: 10
Royal Blue: 200
Blue: 75
White:100

That should reduce the overall blue look.

w.vreeswijk · 04/28/2014, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahin

OK, try these setting:

Red: 10

Royal Blue: 200

Blue: 75

White:100

That should reduce the overall blue look.

Ok thnx and how much % led can i start with.

Greets wesley

sahin · 04/28/2014, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.vreeswijk

Ok thnx and how much % led can i start with.

Greets wesley

Looking at your tank, start with 30% because you have many LPS which can bleach easily. I run my T5's and LED's at 100% intensity, but that is because I have mainly SPS and all my corals have been acclimatised well with my previous ATI hybrid unit I made myself.

I dont think you can go no more than 60% in the end or the LPS might not be happy.

w.vreeswijk · 04/28/2014, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahin

Looking at your tank, start with 30% because you have many LPS which can bleach easily. I run my T5's and LED's at 100% intensity, but that is because I have mainly SPS and all my corals have been acclimatised well with my previous ATI hybrid unit I made myself.

I dont think you can go no more than 60% in the end or the LPS might not be happy.

Ok i get that my old unit the pacific sun 3x150 led i run that on 85%
My lps is only on the bottom of my aquariam.
Some more specs of my tank
Water level hight 75
Runs 2 months zeo.

With the las set the color is great.
Its a lot better.

Greets wesley

sahin · 04/28/2014, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.vreeswijk

Ok i get that my old unit the pacific sun 3x150 led i run that on 85%
My lps is only on the bottom of my aquariam.

Greets wesley

That is a high PAR unit, you can increase the intensity, but keep an eye on the LPS checking to see if the tissue becomes light. Maybe your corals are already used to the high PAR.

w.vreeswijk · 04/28/2014, 03:07 PM

Ok thnx i make tommorow new pictures and post them here so you can see the colour now.
Thnx for helping i,m glad you do that.
And sorry for my bad englisch.

Have a good night

Greets wesley

sahin · 04/28/2014, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.vreeswijk

Ok thnx i make tommorow new pictures and post them here so you can see the colour now.
Thnx for helping i,m glad you do that.
And sorry for my bad englisch.

Have a good night

Greets wesley

Good night buddy.

I understand your English very well. Its better than some of the native English speakers we have here in England!

ws6kid · 04/29/2014, 12:03 PM

Finally got mine set up!

Running:
B+
B+
C+
Fiji Purple
LED LED
GE 6500
C+
B+
B+

Was thinking to run the LED's a little more blue to compensate for the whiter bulbs.

I will say that this light is amazing, but using Parallels on a Mac to control the light seems to be problematic. I cant use the preview modes and my light is on at strange times of the day. Going to have to get a laptop just to run my light

Any feedback would be awesome!

Thanks.

sahin · 04/29/2014, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ws6kid

Finally got mine set up!

Running:
B+
B+
C+
Fiji Purple
LED LED
GE 6500
C+
B+
B+

Was thinking to run the LED's a little more blue to compensate for the whiter bulbs.

I will say that this light is amazing, but using Parallels on a Mac to control the light seems to be problematic. I cant use the preview modes and my light is on at strange times of the day. Going to have to get a laptop just to run my light

Any feedback would be awesome!

Thanks.

Very nice system. Love the Red Planet colony.

With regards to the light switching on random times during the day, your light program might be the cause of that. PM me if you like with your email and I will email you so that you can send me the light profile and I will take a look and correct anything odd.

w.vreeswijk · 04/29/2014, 02:20 PM

Here some picts from today.

Late evening shot

I love the setting now but making a good photo is not easy with the iphone on the pict is it alot off blue in the real great.

Greets wesley

sahin · 04/29/2014, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w.vreeswijk

Here some picts from today.

Late evening shot

I love the setting now but making a good photo is not easy with the iphone on the pict is it alot off blue in the real great.

Greets wesley

Looking great! What LED settings are you using?

w.vreeswijk · 04/29/2014, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sahin

Looking great! What LED settings are you using?

The led is om 65% now.
Maybe i must make a new setting as i make him up to more %.

Hi this the setting.
Red 25
Royal blue 255
Blue 115
White 225

Greets wesley

peliCi · 04/30/2014, 11:25 PM

@ Wesley: Looking great man. How do you keep the reefbone so clean... your tankwater must be perfect. Keep up the fantastic reefing ;-)l

@ Sahin: An other question about the ATI software. How can I copy/paste the .xml file in an email. I can find the file by opening the program, but it doesn't exist on my C drive...

The lightningbeast is over the tank for 4 days now, T5 runs on 100%, Leds on 20%. What diference even at this low %... And Sahin we love the red sunset alot! Thanks again! Corals seem to have no problem so far. But we keep a close watch to that. After a week go 10% up, I think...

Today is the firsttime I can see the whole syclus... so I've been up to urly...

I'll try to post some pics later this day, but I need to buy af real camera, I think....

w.vreeswijk · 04/30/2014, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peliCi

@ Wesley: Looking great man. How do you keep the reefbone so clean... your tankwater must be perfect. Keep up the fantastic reefing ;-)l

Thnx man.
The reef bones is my new setting from sunday.
I hope that they stay so clean.
I give a lot off bacteri now.
This weekend i post some new picts.

Greets wesley

04/25/2014, 11:43 PM	#1301
slap Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 106	wow Sahin, looking great __________________ Aqua Medic Xenia 130: 4x Ecotech Radion XR30w G5 Pro - 2x Vortech MP40 QD - 2x Vortech Mp10 QD - Ecotech Vectra M1 - Nyos Quantum 120

04/26/2014, 12:59 PM	#1305
reefmutt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mtl. Canada Posts: 7,824	Quoted from Sahin: Matt; you are absolutely correct. An 8tube T5 unit in the right hands will absolutely produce stunning colours. I've seen it myself many times. Nothing else needed really. As for the LED's: here is what a Hybrid unit does for me: 1. Just like when using Radiums 20K's, you get great colours, however many people add VHO Actinics which pop the colours and takes it to another level. In the same way Royal Blue LED's does this for me. 2. The White LED's add a bit of shimmer and help fill in the spectrum. 3. The ability to dim the LED's makes for nice moonlight cycles etc. Plus I can reduce intensity and increase as I like; as well as customising colour. However, apart from the extra pop that a VHO would also give, an 8tube ATI unit will work wonders. As for whether the LED's colour up any more; I believe the effect is just instant fluorescence...The best colours I've ever seen in person was my LFS who used to have an 8tube Sunpower over their large display. Sahin, thanks for the info. Well, I'm just about fed up with playing with my LEDs.. I'm about to add 2x 150w de mh in between my 3 Mitras in an attempt at further bringing out the colours of my sps. I've played for a year with the Mitras and although some corals maintain perfect colours, some do not.. So soon my tank will have 4x t5, 3 Mitras and 2x150w mh.. Now there's a mix for ya.. Sorry for the little led, mh rant in this ati thread!! As you were, boys! __________________ Matt. Current Tank Info: 53x32.5x26 190g dt 60g of sumps 3 tank-100 gal frag system 6xAI prime 8xt5. 4x maxspect gyre. Skimz Dual internal sicce pump skimmer Deltec PF601s ca rx+Kalk stirrer

04/29/2014, 12:03 PM	#1319
ws6kid Spongebob Squarepants Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Blacklick Posts: 203	Finally got mine set up! Running: B+ B+ C+ Fiji Purple LED LED GE 6500 C+ B+ B+ Was thinking to run the LED's a little more blue to compensate for the whiter bulbs. I will say that this light is amazing, but using Parallels on a Mac to control the light seems to be problematic. I cant use the preview modes and my light is on at strange times of the day. Going to have to get a laptop just to run my light Any feedback would be awesome! Thanks. __________________ 120g Marineland RR Mixed Reef w/ ATI Hybrid 36" LED/8 Bulb T5, GEO Beckett Skimmer, GEO Bio Pellet Reactor run by the Apex! "When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons and make SUPER LEMONS

04/26/2014, 12:38 PM	#1303
peliCi Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Belgium Posts: 17	Tomorow we say goodbye to our good old ATI PM 10 X 54W, it did his work very well for 4 years... On my reserge in this topic I found some interesting T5 bulbs setups, I have to recupurate the 3 mounth old bulbs... So this is the plan (front to back): AM Reef blue D&D Pure Atinic D&D Aqua Pink AM Reef Blue LED LED LED AM Reef White AM Reef Blue D&D Atinic + D&D Aqua Blue In the future I'm gonna swich to ATI bulbs, a retailer nearby will provid them :thumbup: The leds will start at 10%... some of the SPS are situated just under the watersurface... some just on the surface... the grow out of the tank... Let's add some color... ;-) Byebye brightness Btw, sorry for my bad english writing... speaking is much easier... Pics where taken by my S4, I spend all my money on ATI I can't afford a good camera no more ;-) I had some PO4 en NO3 problems in the past... but is getting better now, since 8 week I do DSR... all parameters are stable now exept PO4 is a bit difficult to control... from .19 to .08 back to .14 en an hour ago .04 so... messured by Hanna. Greatings from Belgium, Peter

04/28/2014, 07:13 AM	#1308
w.vreeswijk Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 540	Hi sahin my unit is now on my tank what is the best program for the led in a sps dominated. I have this setting t5. Current lighting from front to back: ATI Blue Plus ATI Actinic ATI Blue Plus ATI Coral Plus LED LED LED LED ATI Coral Plus ATI Purple Plus ATI Blue Plus ATI Coral Plus How mutch set i the Red Royal blue Blue White Greets wesley

04/28/2014, 03:07 PM	#1317
w.vreeswijk Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 540	Ok thnx i make tommorow new pictures and post them here so you can see the colour now. Thnx for helping i,m glad you do that. And sorry for my bad englisch. Have a good night Greets wesley

04/29/2014, 02:20 PM	#1321
w.vreeswijk Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 540	Here some picts from today. Late evening shot I love the setting now but making a good photo is not easy with the iphone on the pict is it alot off blue in the real great. Greets wesley

04/30/2014, 11:25 PM	#1324
peliCi Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Belgium Posts: 17	@ Wesley: Looking great man. How do you keep the reefbone so clean... your tankwater must be perfect. Keep up the fantastic reefing ;-)l @ Sahin: An other question about the ATI software. How can I copy/paste the .xml file in an email. I can find the file by opening the program, but it doesn't exist on my C drive... The lightningbeast is over the tank for 4 days now, T5 runs on 100%, Leds on 20%. What diference even at this low %... And Sahin we love the red sunset alot! Thanks again! Corals seem to have no problem so far. But we keep a close watch to that. After a week go 10% up, I think... Today is the firsttime I can see the whole syclus... so I've been up to urly... I'll try to post some pics later this day, but I need to buy af real camera, I think....