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MSHUR · 01/18/2014, 06:52 PM

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M007 · 01/19/2014, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AQD_ottawa

No this can not be done due to impedance losses and it takes the ballast out of warranty and also UL listing test criteria.

I see, I thought maybe there had been some new developments on this after I visited Canada Corals and saw their 24 Mitras each with 16 foot lamp to ballast cables.

reefmutt · 01/19/2014, 11:24 AM

mike i like the look of that program. its a pretty long photoperiod, as a whole, and you may want to drop the morning intensity a little..
your second list of colour mix shots aren't in chronological order but i suppose that doesn't matter since the full light schedule shots don't show any funny peaks..

i think its pretty good..

the other thing i forgot to mention (d'oh!!) is that i run a very regular cloud simulation.
i think it gives the corals little breaks when the lights are very intense.
the frequency i forget, but it goes on all day up to a max 30% dimming..

reefmutt · 01/19/2014, 11:25 AM

mike, how big is your tank and how many light to you have?

reefmutt · 01/19/2014, 11:53 AM

actually, i spoke too soon..
that peak from 2pm to 5pm is pretty intense. theres a lot of white..
it worries me a little.. that's close to how i had my last program and i turned down the whites..
what energy setting do you run the mitres at?
but if you have fewer fixtures or a higher tank, maybe it's ok..

MSHUR · 01/19/2014, 01:27 PM

Hi Matt,
thank you for taking you time . hopefully this will help others as well.

my tank is 72x36x24, run 4 mitras at HO-85%
i lower morning intensity 8.30 am-10 am --10%lower. lower whites, green, yellow and red respectively in 2-5pm period.
i would love to upgrade to 6200 just cant ajustify spending some much $$ for 4 units. dont see any needs for yellow and red , really. ordered PAR meter so hopefully in next few days i can measure PARs.
Here is some screen shots.
Please, let me know if you can recomend more adjustments..

thankx

sahin · 01/19/2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by reefmutt

Thanks Al.. I find too many people fail to achieve success with LEDs and blame the light when it is probably another factor in the tank or simply not using the light properly..
By the way, forgot to mention that I run my Mitras in HE mode with the centre light at 70% and the two sides at 75%
Here's my tyree lime in the sky..

Pink lemonade

Unknown frag from lfs

Red planet

Ok last one.. Unknown wild Aussie frag

Awesome, awesome SPS colours! These are just smashing colours mate. I really urge you to start a tank journal/thread. I would love to learn more about your whole setup.

A few posts back you mentioned that you use T5 tubes, can you let me know which ones? Ie ATI blue+? Etc.

Many thanks.

PS Get that tank thread started!

reefmutt · 01/19/2014, 06:51 PM

Hey Sahin, thanks! I'm holding out for your fts!

Actually, I'm mulling over starting a thread because my tank is not exactly where I want it to be and I think I'm experiencing some common reef problems..

I use two giesemann aquapinks and two giesemann lagoon blue bulbs from 10am to 8pm

Mike,
I like that mix better..
So you have a considerable amount of light- 4 Mitras over a 6 foot span. I'm not sure you need to be running them on HO.. You might want to put the light into HE mode and run them at 80%. The tank will seem much more dim to you but the corals might be happier..

I must say, I'm not entirely comfortable giving all of this lighting advice as I'm really no expert.. Experimentation is really the key..
The only thing I feel is really important is to err on the side of too little light because corals don't get shocked from too little light. But if they get bit by too much, it can take months for them to recover and you'll be scratching your head wondering why the coral is doing badly even though you lowered the lights a long time ago...
Like everything that happens in a reef, the damage takes an instant but the recovery takes forever...

MSHUR · 01/19/2014, 08:07 PM

matt,
thank you for yourecommendations .i will keep this project for some time and see if colors will improve, hopefully

KJ'
C

AQD_ottawa · 01/20/2014, 10:58 AM

For what its worth reef builders are doing another LED show down, please post your votes, although I have a feeling who the winner will be

Anim8me2 · 01/20/2014, 12:11 PM

Guys if you are welling please send me your projects for posting at www.profiluxowners.com

Keyvan S · 01/20/2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Anim8me2

Guys if you are welling please send me your projects for posting at www.profiluxowners.com

Especially the 6100 projects....

Kevin S

Tomn · 01/20/2014, 10:24 PM

Hey guys. I've been following this thread for way longer than I'd like to admit being on the fence about leds. A couple months back my tank crashed and I thought I was done with it. Long story short i decided to rebuild. My Mitras should be arriving tomorrow. Aaron (or anyone who may have it) is there any way I can get your light project? The links you put up a while ago doesn't seem to be working for me. Or anyone else have a good one that I should start with? Thanks in advance.

MSHUR · 01/20/2014, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomn

Hey guys. I've been following this thread for way longer than I'd like to admit being on the fence about leds. A couple months back my tank crashed and I thought I was done with it. Long story short i decided to rebuild. My Mitras should be arriving tomorrow. Aaron (or anyone who may have it) is there any way I can get your light project? The links you put up a while ago doesn't seem to be working for me. Or anyone else have a good one that I should start with? Thanks in advance.

i can email you mine, but not sure if can upload into 6200.. mine are 6100.
but, you can use screen shots i have post it above..

Tomn · 01/20/2014, 10:34 PM

thanks mshur

BigAl2007 · 01/21/2014, 07:19 AM

Tomn drop a note to Anim8me2 and get with him. He has a whole library of projects and I would imagine he probably has more than you'd ever need/want. Ian is a wealth of information and a great resource for our community.

On a side note.. WELCOME to the world of Mitras

We're glad you decided to rebuild and look forward to seeing your tank come together

Tomn · 01/21/2014, 08:31 AM

Thanks bigal. I just looked at the link that anim8me2 posted above. I'm going to look at those projects along with mshur and go from there.

reefmutt · 01/21/2014, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSHUR

matt,
thank you for yourecommendations .i will keep this project for some time and see if colors will improve, hopefully

KJ'
C

No problem, mike.
I hope it works for you.
As I mentioned to Michael, recently, next to good lighting and proper stable parameters, I think tonnes of food and great nutrient export are also key to good sps colour.. But I'm sure you are aware of this...

MSHUR · 01/21/2014, 04:36 PM

Matt,
100% agree with you , ive been following this route for years accept i was using 400wRadiums

my colors was great at that time. hopefully i will get them same colors:0)

mike

GazzMan · 01/22/2014, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl2007

Tomn drop a note to Anim8me2 and get with him. He has a whole library of projects and I would imagine he probably has more than you'd ever need/want. Ian is a wealth of information and a great resource for our community.

On a side note.. WELCOME to the world of Mitras

We're glad you decided to rebuild and look forward to seeing your tank come together

Al, there is only two programs in there for the 6200 mate, there are none for the 6100

That's if you are talking about www.profiluxowners.com

BigAl2007 · 01/22/2014, 12:16 PM

Good catch Gazz... I'm not sure if I was looking at the wrong link or if I merely imagined more projects but fact of the matter is you're 100% correct.

My apology for mis-stating the facts up there.

MSHUR · 01/22/2014, 02:11 PM

I have try to submit my project , but couldnt find a way of doing it..

BigAl2007 · 01/22/2014, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSHUR

I have try to submit my project , but couldnt find a way of doing it..

Ian you're fired J/K LOL

Mike I'll send Ian a PM and have him catch up with you. I'm sure he'll get you uploaded ASAP!

Thanks for your support

Anim8me2 · 01/23/2014, 07:17 AM

I have added a how to page with info on how to email me the files. Thanks for pointing out that oversight!

Anim8me2 · 01/23/2014, 07:19 AM

So far I haven't received any more projects. If you could all help me spread the word it would be great!

01/19/2014, 11:24 AM	#1328
reefmutt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mtl. Canada Posts: 7,824	mike i like the look of that program. its a pretty long photoperiod, as a whole, and you may want to drop the morning intensity a little.. your second list of colour mix shots aren't in chronological order but i suppose that doesn't matter since the full light schedule shots don't show any funny peaks.. i think its pretty good.. the other thing i forgot to mention (d'oh!!) is that i run a very regular cloud simulation. i think it gives the corals little breaks when the lights are very intense. the frequency i forget, but it goes on all day up to a max 30% dimming.. __________________ Matt. Current Tank Info: 53x32.5x26 190g dt 60g of sumps 3 tank-100 gal frag system 6xAI prime 8xt5. 4x maxspect gyre. Skimz Dual internal sicce pump skimmer Deltec PF601s ca rx+Kalk stirrer

01/19/2014, 11:25 AM	#1329
reefmutt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mtl. Canada Posts: 7,824	mike, how big is your tank and how many light to you have? __________________ Matt. Current Tank Info: 53x32.5x26 190g dt 60g of sumps 3 tank-100 gal frag system 6xAI prime 8xt5. 4x maxspect gyre. Skimz Dual internal sicce pump skimmer Deltec PF601s ca rx+Kalk stirrer

01/19/2014, 11:53 AM	#1330
reefmutt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mtl. Canada Posts: 7,824	actually, i spoke too soon.. that peak from 2pm to 5pm is pretty intense. theres a lot of white.. it worries me a little.. that's close to how i had my last program and i turned down the whites.. what energy setting do you run the mitres at? but if you have fewer fixtures or a higher tank, maybe it's ok.. __________________ Matt. Current Tank Info: 53x32.5x26 190g dt 60g of sumps 3 tank-100 gal frag system 6xAI prime 8xt5. 4x maxspect gyre. Skimz Dual internal sicce pump skimmer Deltec PF601s ca rx+Kalk stirrer

01/19/2014, 06:51 PM	#1333
reefmutt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mtl. Canada Posts: 7,824	Hey Sahin, thanks! I'm holding out for your fts! Actually, I'm mulling over starting a thread because my tank is not exactly where I want it to be and I think I'm experiencing some common reef problems.. I use two giesemann aquapinks and two giesemann lagoon blue bulbs from 10am to 8pm Mike, I like that mix better.. So you have a considerable amount of light- 4 Mitras over a 6 foot span. I'm not sure you need to be running them on HO.. You might want to put the light into HE mode and run them at 80%. The tank will seem much more dim to you but the corals might be happier.. I must say, I'm not entirely comfortable giving all of this lighting advice as I'm really no expert.. Experimentation is really the key.. The only thing I feel is really important is to err on the side of too little light because corals don't get shocked from too little light. But if they get bit by too much, it can take months for them to recover and you'll be scratching your head wondering why the coral is doing badly even though you lowered the lights a long time ago... Like everything that happens in a reef, the damage takes an instant but the recovery takes forever... __________________ Matt. Current Tank Info: 53x32.5x26 190g dt 60g of sumps 3 tank-100 gal frag system 6xAI prime 8xt5. 4x maxspect gyre. Skimz Dual internal sicce pump skimmer Deltec PF601s ca rx+Kalk stirrer

01/19/2014, 08:07 PM	#1334
MSHUR ugust 2011 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: brooklyn,ny Posts: 2,595	matt, thank you for yourecommendations .i will keep this project for some time and see if colors will improve, hopefully KJ' C __________________ Manhattan Reefs TOTM -August 2011 Current Tank Info: Reef Savvy crystal glass, Profilux network system,PS -Diuna T5-10 bulbs, BK SM-300

01/20/2014, 10:58 AM	#1335
AQD_ottawa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK/Canada Posts: 8,020 Blog Entries: 33	For what its worth reef builders are doing another LED show down, please post your votes, although I have a feeling who the winner will be __________________ Michael Hall Tank Build and product reviews coming soon. 60x30x24 Ecotech powered, OLD Profilux 3 but looking to upgrade when market settles, Seneye Monitored, Bubble Magus DC Skimmed. Current Tank Info: Floating about on the water enjoying semi retirement!!

01/20/2014, 12:11 PM	#1336
Anim8me2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southwest Ranches, FL Posts: 586	Guys if you are welling please send me your projects for posting at www.profiluxowners.com

01/20/2014, 10:24 PM	#1338
Tomn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 5	Hey guys. I've been following this thread for way longer than I'd like to admit being on the fence about leds. A couple months back my tank crashed and I thought I was done with it. Long story short i decided to rebuild. My Mitras should be arriving tomorrow. Aaron (or anyone who may have it) is there any way I can get your light project? The links you put up a while ago doesn't seem to be working for me. Or anyone else have a good one that I should start with? Thanks in advance.

01/20/2014, 10:34 PM	#1340
Tomn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 5	thanks mshur

01/21/2014, 07:19 AM	#1341
BigAl2007 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waynesville, NC USA Posts: 1,737	Tomn drop a note to Anim8me2 and get with him. He has a whole library of projects and I would imagine he probably has more than you'd ever need/want. Ian is a wealth of information and a great resource for our community. On a side note.. WELCOME to the world of Mitras We're glad you decided to rebuild and look forward to seeing your tank come together

01/21/2014, 08:31 AM	#1342
Tomn Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Long Island Posts: 5	Thanks bigal. I just looked at the link that anim8me2 posted above. I'm going to look at those projects along with mshur and go from there.

01/21/2014, 04:36 PM	#1344
MSHUR ugust 2011 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: brooklyn,ny Posts: 2,595	Matt, 100% agree with you , ive been following this route for years accept i was using 400wRadiums my colors was great at that time. hopefully i will get them same colors:0) mike __________________ Manhattan Reefs TOTM -August 2011 Current Tank Info: Reef Savvy crystal glass, Profilux network system,PS -Diuna T5-10 bulbs, BK SM-300

01/22/2014, 12:16 PM	#1346
BigAl2007 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waynesville, NC USA Posts: 1,737	Good catch Gazz... I'm not sure if I was looking at the wrong link or if I merely imagined more projects but fact of the matter is you're 100% correct. My apology for mis-stating the facts up there.

01/22/2014, 02:11 PM	#1347
MSHUR ugust 2011 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: brooklyn,ny Posts: 2,595	I have try to submit my project , but couldnt find a way of doing it.. __________________ Manhattan Reefs TOTM -August 2011 Current Tank Info: Reef Savvy crystal glass, Profilux network system,PS -Diuna T5-10 bulbs, BK SM-300

01/23/2014, 07:17 AM	#1349
Anim8me2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southwest Ranches, FL Posts: 586	I have added a how to page with info on how to email me the files. Thanks for pointing out that oversight!

01/23/2014, 07:19 AM	#1350
Anim8me2 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southwest Ranches, FL Posts: 586	So far I haven't received any more projects. If you could all help me spread the word it would be great!