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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Big Dog

Standard 180 Gallon, 75 Gallon Sump with 25 of it being fuge. 200# LR, 1.5 inch live sand bed, ASM G2 Skimmer

Recently combined 2 tanks, the current inhabitants are all long term except the wrasse and are as follows:

5" Purple Tank
3" Elibi Angel
4" Splendid Dottyback can be an aggressive PITA but your tank may be long enough
4" Yellow Coris Wrasse (Recent addition, the angel and him had a 1 day "issue" but all is well now)
2.5" Watchmen Goby
2.5" Ocellaris Clown (hosting in a 14" RBTA, 2 other nems: 6" RBTA & 3" Flower)
1.5" Yellowtail Damsel
4" Banded Coral shrimp can take fish
Short Spined Urchin

I would like to add a Flame Hawkfish and/or Lawnmower Blenny to complete but I'm a bit worried about the Pseudochromis and/or Angel or each other .... .

should be fine except as annotated

Thoughts and recommendations ........... thanks in advance!

[Mark_C]

Hi Steve!
I hope you might give me a bit of advice (again).

I'm psyched. I just got a deal and I’m upgrading (in a few weeks) to a 60g shallow reef 48" x 24" x12". Will contain 55# of live rock, 1.5” aragonite bed, standard cuc. Tank has zoanths and will be mixed corals eventually. There will be no cover on it so I’m trying to avoid jumpers as best I can.

Current stock in my 40b is:
2 O. clowns
1 Reef chromie
1 Lawnmower blennie
1 cleaner shrimp
1 sand-sift star
2 bubble anems (was one, then it split and wandered), both hosting the clowns.

At transition to the 60 I plan on adding:
2 Fire shrimp
Possibly an emerald crab

I’d like to add:
1 clown goby
1 chalk bass
and/or longnose hawkfish

End goal, once I have a thriving pod population in a year or so, is to add a mandarin.

Thanks,
Mark

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Mark_C

Hi Steve!
I hope you might give me a bit of advice (again).

I'm psyched. I just got a deal and I’m upgrading (in a few weeks) to a 60g shallow reef 48" x 24" x12". Will contain 55# of live rock, 1.5” aragonite bed, standard cuc. Tank has zoanths and will be mixed corals eventually. There will be no cover on it so I’m trying to avoid jumpers as best I can.

Current stock in my 40b is:
2 O. clowns
1 Reef chromie
1 Lawnmower blennie
1 cleaner shrimp
1 sand-sift star will eventually starve in this sized tank
2 bubble anems (was one, then it split and wandered), both hosting the clowns.

At transition to the 60 I plan on adding:
2 Fire shrimp
Possibly an emerald crab

I’d like to add:
1 clown goby
1 chalk bass
and/or longnose hawkfish not shrimp or crab safe

End goal, once I have a thriving pod population in a year or so, is to add a mandarin. this sized tank will not sustain a mandarin long term

Thanks,
Mark

[Mark_C]

Thanks. The sifter star was purchased with assurances of the LFS (suprise) that it would be fine in my tank. I’ve called a friend who has a multitude of massive tanks and he’s going to give it a new home.

My son would love a star in the tank. Would any of these be a better choice than the others for the 60 reef with the above stock?

Indian Sea Star
Red Sea Star
Brittle Star (not green)
Serpent Star

Again my thanks,
Mark

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Mark_C

Thanks. The sifter star was purchased with assurances of the LFS (suprise) that it would be fine in my tank. I’ve called a friend who has a multitude of massive tanks and he’s going to give it a new home.

My son would love a star in the tank. Would any of these be a better choice than the others for the 60 reef with the above stock?

Indian Sea Star
Red Sea Star
Brittle Star (not green)
Serpent Star

Again my thanks,
Mark

A non green brittle star would work

[Jilnifer]

I'm posting for a friend who has an 120 gallon tank with a canister.

Has 2 clowns already

Blue tang

Wants:

Foxface tang

Schooling fish ie. (Blue green Chromis, Blue eyed Cardinal or Anthias)

Dwarf Bi-color angel, Dwarf Coral Beauty, or. Dwarf Flame Angel,

Shrimps

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Jilnifer

I'm posting for a friend who has an 120 gallon tank with a canister.

Has 2 clowns already

Blue tang needs a much larger (longer) tank

Wants:

Foxface tang a foxface is not a tang but is an algae grazer similar to a tang so it occupiers the same ecological niche. Two algae grazers in this sized tank is pushing it

Schooling fish ie. (Blue green Chromis, Blue eyed Cardinal or Anthias) chromis won't work as they kill of the weakest and the other two will not school. They will loosely aggregate

Dwarf Bi-color angel, Dwarf Coral Beauty, or. Dwarf Flame Angel, another algae grazer

Shrimps

[J_Albereefing]

75 gallon mixed reef, 30 gallon sump/fuge, 6 line, mandarin, YWG/pistol, clown pair, Kole tang, various CUC. Are there any other fish that would go good with my tank or should this be the max for the size? Thank you.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by J_Albereefing

75 gallon mixed reef, 30 gallon sump/fuge, 6 line, mandarin, YWG/pistol, clown pair, Kole tang, various CUC. Are there any other fish that would go good with my tank or should this be the max for the size? Thank you.

A six line wrasse and mandarin will not coexist long term in a 75 gallon tank. Depending on the species of clownfish, which may limit tank mates, your bioload, would sustain a small fish or two.

[Norman123]

Hi,

I have an established 30G tall (24"x12" footprint) with about 35lbs + of live rock, a HOB 3.5 gallon refugium, an internal skimmer and an Aquaclear 70 running Chemi-pure Blue (newly installed). Inhabitants: pistol shrimp with a watchman goby, six line wrasse, 2 baby clowns, 3 small BTA's. Cleanup crew: one blue legged hermit crab, one starfish of some sort (light purple colour), an emerald crab and an urchin. I think there may be one astrae snail that the crab hasn't killed yet...

Am I done or can I add one last fish? I'd love to add a coral beauty...and maybe a cleaner shrimp.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Norman123

Hi,

I have an established 30G tall (24"x12" footprint) with about 35lbs + of live rock, a HOB 3.5 gallon refugium, an internal skimmer and an Aquaclear 70 running Chemi-pure Blue (newly installed). Inhabitants: pistol shrimp with a watchman goby, six line wrasse, 2 baby clowns, 3 small BTA's. Cleanup crew: one blue legged hermit crab, one starfish of some sort (light purple colour), an emerald crab and an urchin. I think there may be one astrae snail that the crab hasn't killed yet...

Am I done or can I add one last fish? I'd love to add a coral beauty...and maybe a cleaner shrimp.

A cleaner shrimp should work, a dwarf angel will not. The six line wrasse will severely limit tank mates.

[Norman123]

Originally Posted by snorvich

A cleaner shrimp should work, a dwarf angel will not. The six line wrasse will severely limit tank mates.

Thanks for your help! I was a little worried about the six line. Last year during an algae bloom I added a kole tang. He lasted a little over a week. The goby spars with the wrasse as well but they seem to have learned to co exist...

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Norman123

Thanks for your help! I was a little worried about the six line. Last year during an algae bloom I added a kole tang. He lasted a little over a week. The goby spars with the wrasse as well but they seem to have learned to co exist...

A six line can be a royal PITA especially in a small tank.

[crabbydan]

Still cycling so re-thinking stock list. Can you also suggest an order to be added?

New tank is 4ft by 18 inches front to back and 30 inches tall. I have a 20 gallon sump which will have about 10 gallons in it. 100lbs of live rock will use 75 of it for sure and will try to add the other 25 as room and looks allow. Skimmer Vertex Omega 150, Lighting is 2 kessils a 350W and a 360W. Chiller (I live in the desert), Auto top off, GFO/Carbon reactor if needed. Will have a small 8 inch by 12 inch refuge area in sump also have a medium 4 inch by 20 inch HOB fuge that I might use too.
Flow is two Jebao WP25's along with return sump pump forgot flow on that.

Current tank water quality should be the same in the new tank being set up;
Salinity = 1.025 /// Ammonia=0 /// Nitrite=0 /// Nitrate=0 /// PH=9 /// Temp=79degrees F /// Phosphate = 0.16 (I struggle here) /// KH=9 or 161 /// Calcium=400 /// Mag=1170 (I struggle here too).

Current tank;
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Small 1inch blue green chromis -
Small 1 inch snowflake clown
Variety of snails = Nas, Turbo, Cerith, Netrites?
3 hermit crabs in refuge not in display.
3 headed Duncan
20 head zoa
3 inch round green star polyp.

New tank wish list in addition to the Chromis and clown above;
Pistol Shrimp & Goby Pair I like the Yasha goby and will likely go with a randalls pistol shrimp.
Green Coris Wrasse.
Fox Face Lo or lawn mower blenny or both.. Would both be too many algae eaters?
Do you know what Tangs could fit in a 105 gallon with corals?
Also are their any dwarf angels that could live in a 105 gallon with corals?
Strawberry Basslet.
Gold Midas Blenny or a Tail spot blenny.
Last does any anthias work in my 105 gallon tank?
Would a scooter or mandarin ever work in this tank after mature for a year or is this a huge stock list?

Ok I do not plan to have any crabs as I am not a fan of them in general they ate and stole the shells from my snails in my 40 gallon. But I have considered a pom pom crab is this suitable or is it also likely a killer / shell stealer?

Thank you again and out of what is capable in my size tank can you help me with an order they should be introduced?

[Jone]

Leopard wrasse...love to hear opinions of this wrasse,,I have been waiting to see one at the LFS,,Iahve mainly softies and LPS

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by crabbydan

Still cycling so re-thinking stock list. Can you also suggest an order to be added?

New tank is 4ft by 18 inches front to back and 30 inches tall. I have a 20 gallon sump which will have about 10 gallons in it. 100lbs of live rock will use 75 of it for sure and will try to add the other 25 as room and looks allow. Skimmer Vertex Omega 150, Lighting is 2 kessils a 350W and a 360W. Chiller (I live in the desert), Auto top off, GFO/Carbon reactor if needed. Will have a small 8 inch by 12 inch refuge area in sump also have a medium 4 inch by 20 inch HOB fuge that I might use too.
Flow is two Jebao WP25's along with return sump pump forgot flow on that.

Current tank water quality should be the same in the new tank being set up;
Salinity = 1.025 /// Ammonia=0 /// Nitrite=0 /// Nitrate=0 /// PH=9 /// Temp=79degrees F /// Phosphate = 0.16 (I struggle here) /// KH=9 or 161 /// Calcium=400 /// Mag=1170 (I struggle here too).

Current tank;
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint Shrimp
Small 1inch blue green chromis -
Small 1 inch snowflake clown
Variety of snails = Nas, Turbo, Cerith, Netrites?
3 hermit crabs in refuge not in display.
3 headed Duncan
20 head zoa
3 inch round green star polyp.

New tank wish list in addition to the Chromis and clown above;
Pistol Shrimp & Goby Pair I like the Yasha goby and will likely go with a randalls pistol shrimp. fine
Green Coris Wrasse. fine
Fox Face Lo or lawn mower blenny or both.. Would both be too many algae eaters? the fox face is fine, but I would not do any additional algae eaters
Do you know what Tangs could fit in a 105 gallon with corals? the fox face limits algae eaters, so none
Also are their any dwarf angels that could live in a 105 gallon with corals? dwarf angels are not coral safe
Strawberry Basslet.
Gold Midas Blenny or a Tail spot blenny.tail spot is preferred
Last does any anthias work in my 105 gallon tank? one would be fine, a group would not
Would a scooter or mandarin ever work in this tank after mature for a year or is this a huge stock list? After nine months, a scooter should work

Ok I do not plan to have any crabs as I am not a fan of them in general they ate and stole the shells from my snails in my 40 gallon. But I have considered a pom pom crab is this suitable or is it also likely a killer / shell stealer? No, it is not. However, you would rarely, if ever, see it.

Thank you again and out of what is capable in my size tank can you help me with an order they should be introduced?

[firemountain]

Steve,

I am looking to purchase a Yasha Goby and a Mandarin. I know both are bottom dwellers, and want to make sure they are introduced in the proper order.

Tank info...65g mixed reef est. for about 9 months. Current fish are a mated pair of O. Clown fish, Gold Assessor Basslet, Helfrichi firefish, 2 Skunk cleaner shrimp, 1 fire shrimp, CUC, 2 baby hermits.

No refugium in my sump, but getting ready to setup a converted Aquaclear 70 HOB fuge just for pod production and Chaeto.

I know the Mandarin will be a bit challenging, and if I have to chose between the two fish, I would rather take a crack at the Mandarin.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by firemountain

Steve,

I am looking to purchase a Yasha Goby and a Mandarin. I know both are bottom dwellers, and want to make sure they are introduced in the proper order.

Tank info...65g mixed reef est. for about 9 months. Current fish are a mated pair of O. Clown fish, Gold Assessor Basslet, Helfrichi firefish, 2 Skunk cleaner shrimp, 1 fire shrimp, CUC, 2 baby hermits.

No refugium in my sump, but getting ready to setup a converted Aquaclear 70 HOB fuge just for pod production and Chaeto.

I know the Mandarin will be a bit challenging, and if I have to chose between the two fish, I would rather take a crack at the Mandarin.

Although they reside (sort of) in the same space, they do not reside in the same ecological niche. No compatibility issues. I would introduce the mandarin once the tank is mature and/or the refugium is active.

[firemountain]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Although they reside (sort of) in the same space, they do not reside in the same ecological niche. No compatibility issues. I would introduce the mandarin once the tank is mature and/or the refugium is active.

Ok. Thanks Steve. While I feel the tank is established, I want my pod production to be up to the demand of the mandarin, with the fugue up and running.

[crabbydan]

Thanks for the earlier input, can you suggest a stocking order? This is what I was guessing at...

1. Snowflake clown transfer from current tank
2. Pistol Shrimp & Goby Pair I like the Yasha goby and will likely go with a randalls pistol shrimp.
3. Tail spot blenny.
4. Transfer Chromis from current tank.
5 Anthias
6. Strawberry Basslet.
7. Green Coris Wrasse.
8. Fox Face Lo or lawn mower blenny. (Leaning towards the Fox Face)
9. Scooter or Mandarin after 12 months of successful pod population in sump and HOB refuge.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by crabbydan

Thanks for the earlier input, can you suggest a stocking order? This is what I was guessing at...

1. Snowflake clown transfer from current tank
2. Pistol Shrimp & Goby Pair I like the Yasha goby and will likely go with a randalls pistol shrimp.
3. Tail spot blenny.
4. Transfer Chromis from current tank.
5 Anthias
6. Strawberry Basslet.
7. Green Coris Wrasse.
8. Fox Face Lo or lawn mower blenny. (Leaning towards the Fox Face)
9. Scooter or Mandarin after 12 months of successful pod population in sump and HOB refuge.

The order looks fine to me

[nanoreef_swag]

Would a 10 gallon work for 1 small angler like a wart skin? And could I put any other fish in the tank with it? Please tell me some tank sizes and good predatory fish that stay 4 in or smaller

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by nanoreef_swag

Would a 10 gallon work for 1 small angler like a wart skin? And could I put any other fish in the tank with it? Please tell me some tank sizes and good predatory fish that stay 4 in or smaller

To answer the specific question, any fish that could live in a 10 gallon tank would be eaten. Also, I do not provide analysis of aggressive fish community tanks. Best to post any aggressive fish questions here.

[izzyish]

Snorvich, looking into some Genicanthus watanabei's but I read somewhere that males don't fair well through shipping process. Would it be okay to get two females hoping one would eventually turn male? I have a 125g tank with a Mag Foxface, Yellow tang, Blue Damsel, 2 Lyretail Anthias, and 3 Bartlett Anthias. Do you think the Yellow tang would hurt the watanabei's even after they've been in an acclimation box for a week or so?

Also, I have a 46 gallon reef tank with green hair algae. I was thinking of a foxface lo but I believe he's rated for a bigger tank. Do you have any fish suggestions that would consume hair algae in that size tank.

Thanks!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by izzyish

Snorvich, looking into some Genicanthus watanabei's but I read somewhere that males don't fair well through shipping process. Would it be okay to get two females hoping one would eventually turn male? I have a 125g tank with a Mag Foxface, Yellow tang, Blue Damsel, 2 Lyretail Anthias, and 3 Bartlett Anthias. Do you think the Yellow tang would hurt the watanabei's even after they've been in an acclimation box for a week or so?

Also, I have a 46 gallon reef tank with green hair algae. I was thinking of a foxface lo but I believe he's rated for a bigger tank. Do you have any fish suggestions that would consume hair algae in that size tank.

Thanks!

Two G. watanabei females may work, but probably would not. The yellow tang, once establised is unlikely to allow a fish of this type to be added. An acclimation box may work, however. The foxface is unlikely to clean the hair algae. Best way is to solve the problem of nutrients rather than local for a biological way to get around it.