Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

[poolkeeper1]

Originally Posted by GT_Jacket

Bill - I have the KZ Potassium test kit. Hard to read, but next time we hook up I will bring it. D&D salt is NSW for potassium (~380). Also, there is some belief that needle wheel skimmers remove potassium over on the Zeovit forum.

The marine snow sounds similar to zeo's coral snow. Does it fog/cloud the water at 1st and then become crystal clear?

Brett

It did not Fog the water as I remember but there was an instant outbreak of Algae on my glass after adding this product. It did make the water look like it was not even there but I also have gotten a real bad case of Cyano that I noticed in one day it got way out of control and I have since Treated with Chemiclean.
Bill

[GT_Jacket]

Ouch... sorry to hear that. Since Cyno is a bacteria too, do you think the Chemiclean will wipe out your "good" bacteria also? Are you still using MB7 from time-to-time?

[poolkeeper1]

Originally Posted by GT_Jacket

Ouch... sorry to hear that. Since Cyno is a bacteria too, do you think the Chemiclean will wipe out your "good" bacteria also? Are you still using MB7 from time-to-time?

I am finished with the treatment today and have done one water change, I will do a second tomorrow and Try and get my skimmer running again. Way too much foam right now so it just overflows.
I have not dosed anything while treating, But will return this Eve to my regular dosing scheme.
Bill

[johnnyb05]

update day 75, the red cyano that appeared about day 60 is starting to abate. overall tank looks good most of my sps have nice color. the ones that where problem are still holding brown. havent lost any sps since i lost a couple of frags. thats it, let them keep tumbling.

[afernandez]

Poolkeeper what do u normally dose?

[SaltyNovice]

Well, I finally get to write the positive update. My nitrates are finally down I started off with my nitrates running 100+. I began the ECOBAK pellets on 12-04-10. I've got a 120 DT with a 65 sump. I started out with 500 ml and then added the other 500 ml a couple of weeks later. I was ready to give up about 2 months ago, but I had read several stories of good results after several months. So I decided to quit measuring the nitrates and just let my system alone. Well today I tested all my params.

SG - 1.025
Temp. - 77.5
PH --- 8.1
Ammonia - 0.0
Nitrites - 0.0
Nitrates - 5.0 according to API
2.5 according to Sailfert
Phosphates - 0.5
ALK -- 9.0 according to API
10.6 according to Sailfert
CA --- 430
Mag --- 1110


It took 18 weeks (4 1/2 months) of the pellets in the system for mine to go down. This is the first time in 2 years my nitrates have been below 10. So if there is anyone who is struggling with the pellets and is thinking of giving up. Don't - it did work out for me. Now I will try to get some corals to grow........

SaltyNovice

[gary faulkner]

Phosphates - 0.5

Is that 0.5 or .05? If .5 you really need to look into something to get them down.


HTH

[reefkt]

[reefkt]

Originally Posted by SaltyNovice

Well, I finally get to write the positive update. My nitrates are finally down I started off with my nitrates running 100+. I began the ECOBAK pellets on 12-04-10. I've got a 120 DT with a 65 sump. I started out with 500 ml and then added the other 500 ml a couple of weeks later. I was ready to give up about 2 months ago, but I had read several stories of good results after several months. So I decided to quit measuring the nitrates and just let my system alone. Well today I tested all my params.

SG - 1.025
Temp. - 77.5
PH --- 8.1
Ammonia - 0.0
Nitrites - 0.0
Nitrates - 5.0 according to API
2.5 according to Sailfert
Phosphates - 0.5
ALK -- 9.0 according to API
10.6 according to Sailfert
CA --- 430
Mag --- 1110


It took 18 weeks (4 1/2 months) of the pellets in the system for mine to go down. This is the first time in 2 years my nitrates have been below 10. So if there is anyone who is struggling with the pellets and is thinking of giving up. Don't - it did work out for me. Now I will try to get some corals to grow........

SaltyNovice

Congratulation! I fight the nitrate for a long long time too.
Now I always keep it <5

[poolkeeper1]

Originally Posted by afernandez

Poolkeeper what do u normally dose?

I add MB7 along with Amino Acids and a mixture of Reef Chile, Phytoplankton, Clycopeese and just started to use Potassium and Marine Snow from Warner.
I do kind of Mix it up except for the MB7 i dose 4 drops daily.
Bill

[bagz727]

Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

I add MB7 along with Amino Acids and a mixture of Reef Chile, Phytoplankton, Clycopeese and just started to use Potassium and Marine Snow from Warner.
I do kind of Mix it up except for the MB7 i dose 4 drops daily.
Bill

do you mix marine snow w/ aminos & mb7? ty

[bayoupr]

I've been running these pellets for about two weeks now and have a, I'm assuming a bacteria bloom for the last week. Water is cloudy, running the recommended amount for my water volume. How long can I expect this to last? Corals are OK, but my big Sailfin and Hawkfish are not. All other fish are doing well.

[Buganddoug]

Yes your corals will be fine and it last about one week.

[TheFishMan65]

I thought people said it usually lasted 3-4 days. Did you add an oxygen stone? That maybe why the fish are having trouble - low oxygen. IMHO I would take half the pellets out and then add them slowly maybe 1/4 in a month and the rest a month later. Just rinse real well in RO water and let dry.

[drummereef]

Originally Posted by bayoupr

I've been running these pellets for about two weeks now and have a, I'm assuming a bacteria bloom for the last week. Water is cloudy, running the recommended amount for my water volume. How long can I expect this to last? Corals are OK, but my big Sailfin and Hawkfish are not. All other fish are doing well.

Get an airstone (or two) in there ASAP if you haven't already. Large bacteria populations mean less oxygen for fish and corals.

[snaza]

URGENT questions please.

increased the flow on my pellets (been running about 3 months) and 2 days later the tank has gone milky. is this a bacteria bloom because of the increased flow. should i reduce the flow a bit?

thanks
Aaron

[drummereef]

Originally Posted by snaza

URGENT questions please.

increased the flow on my pellets (been running about 3 months) and 2 days later the tank has gone milky. is this a bacteria bloom because of the increased flow. should i reduce the flow a bit?

thanks
Aaron

Sounds like it. I would put an air stone in the tank just in case. The pellets only need a gentle tumble, any more than that and you can slough off bacteria into the water column. Also make sure the effluent of your pellet reactor is close to the skimmer's volute.

[snaza]

Originally Posted by drummereef

Sounds like it. I would put an air stone in the tank just in case. The pellets only need a gentle tumble, any more than that and you can slough off bacteria into the water column. Also make sure the effluent of your pellet reactor is close to the skimmer's volute.

thanks for that. efluent is directly into the skimmer intake. I have lots of surface movement with some new tunze 6205's. fish look fine. some coral look a bit stressed but the water is clearing up. fingers crossed

[bayoupr]

Her's my experience with the product. Started 2&1/2 weeks ago running these. First 10-12 days had clumping, slime build up and bad bacteria bloom. Corals weren't looking good, my hawkfish was not doing well and my prized sailfin was in bad shape. All this happened while I was offshore and wife didn't know any better, ( I should have left her some instructions on what to do about this while I was gone she handles everything). When I came in I was real close to pulling the plug on these like I did with two other brands I tried. I put some carbon in about 5 days ago, cleaned out my reactor and re-started, went back offshore. Came back in last night and low and behold all my corals were looking good, my hawkfish was back to normal but I lost the sailfin. My nitrates before were running about 60-80ppm and my phosphates were at .5ppm. Checked this morning and my nitrates were at 20ppm and phosphates are at .0-.25 (hard to tell with the test kit). Bacteria bloom is clearing up and my overflow tubes are not as dirty as they were. The only problem if it is one is I had to run some warm r/o water down my skimmer air tube because it wasn't skimming good. Since I did this it picked up again. Figure it might have still had some slime on the pinwheel. Pellets are tumbling in a real good fluid motion. All in all I would have to say other than a couple of issures that I am happy with the results I have seen so far.

[drummereef]

Originally Posted by bayoupr

Her's my experience with the product. Started 2&1/2 weeks ago running these. First 10-12 days had clumping, slime build up and bad bacteria bloom. Corals weren't looking good, my hawkfish was not doing well and my prized sailfin was in bad shape. All this happened while I was offshore and wife didn't know any better, ( I should have left her some instructions on what to do about this while I was gone she handles everything). When I came in I was real close to pulling the plug on these like I did with two other brands I tried. I put some carbon in about 5 days ago, cleaned out my reactor and re-started, went back offshore. Came back in last night and low and behold all my corals were looking good, my hawkfish was back to normal but I lost the sailfin. My nitrates before were running about 60-80ppm and my phosphates were at .5ppm. Checked this morning and my nitrates were at 20ppm and phosphates are at .0-.25 (hard to tell with the test kit). Bacteria bloom is clearing up and my overflow tubes are not as dirty as they were. The only problem if it is one is I had to run some warm r/o water down my skimmer air tube because it wasn't skimming good. Since I did this it picked up again. Figure it might have still had some slime on the pinwheel. Pellets are tumbling in a real good fluid motion. All in all I would have to say other than a couple of issures that I am happy with the results I have seen so far.

Wished she would have known to put an air stone in the tank, might have saved the tang. But glad things are starting to look better.

[bayoupr]

My bad for not informing her. But other than that I like what I see. I have since slowed the flow down and pellets are still rolling very good. I may tune the flow down a little more in the next day or two. I am probably pushing about 175 - 200 through them right now.

[drummereef]

Originally Posted by bayoupr

My bad for not informing her. But other than that I like what I see. I have since slowed the flow down and pellets are still rolling very good. I may tune the flow down a little more in the next day or two. I am probably pushing about 175 - 200 through them right now.

No worries, glad you are back on track.

[milkman55]

I have been running the EcoBak since last August. I have had some algea issues over that time, but not sure they are related to the EcoBak. Bottom line is my nitrates have been 2-3 for at least six months without any change. My phosphate is .02 per my Hanna checker and I took my GFO reactor offline about 3 months ago.

I just recently added a few new pellets to replace the ones that have depleted, but they dissolve very slowly. My only suggestion is to start the pellets slowly and don't drop a full liter of pellets in a new system (like I did) and shock the system. I moved the nitrates down way too fast and disrupted the system.

I have been dosing 80 ml a week of Microbe-Lift Special Blend to feed some beneficial bacteria to the 200 gal system. I started with MB7, but switched to Microbe-Lift about 2 months ago. I like the results so far.

[swissgaurd]

Originally Posted by milkman55

I have been running the EcoBak since last August. I have had some algea issues over that time, but not sure they are related to the EcoBak. Bottom line is my nitrates have been 2-3 for at least six months without any change. My phosphate is .02 per my Hanna checker and I took my GFO reactor offline about 3 months ago.

I just recently added a few new pellets to replace the ones that have depleted, but they dissolve very slowly. My only suggestion is to start the pellets slowly and don't drop a full liter of pellets in a new system (like I did) and shock the system. I moved the nitrates down way too fast and disrupted the system.

I have been dosing 80 ml a week of Microbe-Lift Special Blend to feed some beneficial bacteria to the 200 gal system. I started with MB7, but switched to Microbe-Lift about 2 months ago. I like the results so far.

when i ran pellets i didnt have any success with MB7
i stopped using the pellets and began with special blend.i had amazing results.

when i go back to pellets,i will continue using special blend

[drummereef]

Very interesting guys. I might have to pick up some special blend. At what rate were you dosing?