PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[NySharkBait]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Bingo!! Sounds good.

I'm still debating which Goby, not both.

WINNER WINNER

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by NySharkBait

I'm still debating which Goby, not both.

WINNER WINNER

Behaviorally, they are the same.

[Lizzy_lray]

Six line wrasse- already in tank
Would it work with a lawn mower Blenny?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Lizzy_lray

Six line wrasse- already in tank
Would it work with a lawn mower Blenny?

Not clear. Tank is small and a six line is aggressive.

[Lizzy_lray]

What other fish would you suggest in a 20 gal reef setup with a six line?

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Hey snorvich,

Couple questions about the previously approved stock list.

1. Could a clown goby be added in that mix, or will it compete with some of the other fish? Also, if adding this fish works can you tell me where in the order is best? Thanks!

2. Second, could the orange shoulder change be interchanged with a blue regal? Someone after seeing my tank suggested that the blue regal might be better based on the amount of swim area. Thoughts?

Thanks again for all of your help!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Lizzy_lray

What other fish would you suggest in a 20 gal reef setup with a six line?

In this thread I never recommend for a variety of reasons. I am always happy to analyze stocking plans along with tank size. Your six line wrasse will make additions very difficult. A shrimp/goby combination may be tolerated.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

Hey snorvich,

Couple questions about the previously approved stock list.

1. Could a clown goby be added in that mix, or will it compete with some of the other fish? Also, if adding this fish works can you tell me where in the order is best? Thanks!

2. Second, could the orange shoulder change be interchanged with a blue regal? Someone after seeing my tank suggested that the blue regal might be better based on the amount of swim area. Thoughts?

Thanks again for all of your help!

Since I cannot go backwards in this thread, and my memory, after doing thousands of these is poor at best, I would need the entire stocking plan and tank size to answer either question intelligently.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Since I cannot go backwards in this thread, and my memory, after doing thousands of these is poor at best, I would need the entire stocking plan and tank size to answer either question intelligently.

Sorry there. I thought I quoted my original post. Howl fully it shows up here, if not I will copy and paste it.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

Sorry there. I thought I quoted my original post. Howl fully it shows up here, if not I will copy and paste it.

I'll copy and paste it lol... Sorry.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Hey snorvich,

Here I am trying again lol...

Couple questions about the previously approved stock list.

1. Could a clown goby be added in that mix, or will it compete with some of the other fish? Also, if adding this fish works can you tell me where in the order is best? Thanks!

2. Second, could the orange shoulder change be interchanged with a blue regal? Someone after seeing my tank suggested that the blue regal might be better based on the amount of swim area. Thoughts?

Thanks again for all of your help!

Original:
Hi there. I appreciate your evaluation of my future purchases. Currently I don't have anything in my tank but a couple snails and hermit crabs. My tank just finished cycling and I am looking forward to adding fish and coral. I'm planning to have a mixed reef with cleaner shrimp, coral banded shrimp, and urchins. I will possible add a clam or two in the future.

My tank set-up is a 210 gallon mid-center overflow eurobraced tank. Dimensions are 60"long x 27"deep x 30"tall.

It is connected to a 30 gallon frag tank and a 30 gallon sump. I'm planning to have a few inches of sand in the refugium with different types of macro algae and mangroves. The DT has a rock wall throughout three sides of the tank and around the overflow. I am using Pink Fiji Sand that increases from 2" to 4" in some areas. On average about 3".

My plan is to add each type of fish with a 4 week period between in this order. Is this order correct and can you give me some insight into the mix and quantity as well.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

Hey snorvich,

Here I am trying again lol...

Couple questions about the previously approved stock list.

1. Could a clown goby be added in that mix, or will it compete with some of the other fish? Also, if adding this fish works can you tell me where in the order is best? Thanks! No problem. They are not aggressive so entry early on is fine

2. Second, could the orange shoulder change be interchanged with a blue regal? Someone after seeing my tank suggested that the blue regal might be better based on the amount of swim area. Thoughts?

P. hepatus really needs a longer tank. As they mature, they get aggressive and if properly fed will exceed a foot in length, growing rather quickly. They also tend to be more likely to "pace" in a shorter tank (pacing makes me crazy but you may be more tolerant)

Thanks again for all of your help!

Original:
Hi there. I appreciate your evaluation of my future purchases. Currently I don't have anything in my tank but a couple snails and hermit crabs. My tank just finished cycling and I am looking forward to adding fish and coral. I'm planning to have a mixed reef with cleaner shrimp, coral banded shrimp, and urchins. I will possible add a clam or two in the future.

My tank set-up is a 210 gallon mid-center overflow eurobraced tank. Dimensions are 60"long x 27"deep x 30"tall.

It is connected to a 30 gallon frag tank and a 30 gallon sump. I'm planning to have a few inches of sand in the refugium with different types of macro algae and mangroves. The DT has a rock wall throughout three sides of the tank and around the overflow. I am using Pink Fiji Sand that increases from 2" to 4" in some areas. On average about 3".

My plan is to add each type of fish with a 4 week period between in this order. Is this order correct and can you give me some insight into the mix and quantity as well.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Thanks again for all of the advice. This is my first large build. You said the Orange shoulder tang would be fine. Can you take a look at the picture of my tank and confirm that for me once more. I just like that extra reassurance before investing into the tank. Sorry about that lol...

The tank is 60" with that fun center overflow and a rockwall surround.

Thanks again!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

Thanks again for all of the advice. This is my first large build. You said the Orange shoulder tang would be fine. Can you take a look at the picture of my tank and confirm that for me once more. I just like that extra reassurance before investing into the tank. Sorry about that lol...

The tank is 60" with that fun center overflow and a rockwall surround.

Thanks again!

Orange Shoulder tangs do get large (14 inches); as such your tank length is not ideal (Reef Central recommends a six foot tank length minimum). If it were me, I would go with a smaller tang, one of the Ctenochaetus group because of tank length. I tend to "give the benefit of the doubt" towards the Reefer when there is a fish they really want as long as it is feasible at least to some degree.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Orange Shoulder tangs do get large (14 inches); as such your tank length is not ideal (Reef Central recommends a six foot tank length minimum). If it were me, I would go with a smaller tang, one of the Ctenochaetus group because of tank length. I tend to "give the benefit of the doubt" towards the Reefer when there is a fish they really want as long as it is feasible at least to some degree.

I can't thank you enough for your expertise. And this group will also do fine with the sailfin tang I assume?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

I can't thank you enough for your expertise. And this group will also do fine with the sailfin tang I assume?

The same issue applies to the sailfin tang. It would do better in a longer tank.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Originally Posted by snorvich

The same issue applies to the sailfin tang. It would do better in a longer tank.

It's hard for me to give up the sailfin but to be on the safe side and be fair to the fish I will have to change my lineup a little. It looks like the chevron tang was in the genus you mentioned. Maybe I can do that with another tang? I'll submit another list after some research.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

It's hard for me to give up the sailfin but to be on the safe side and be fair to the fish I will have to change my lineup a little. It looks like the chevron tang was in the genus you mentioned. Maybe I can do that with another tang? I'll submit another list after some research.

There are others of that group. However Chevron is one of my favorites. I also like the yellow eyed kole tang. Long tanks are desirable for large algae grazers as it reduces the possibility of aggression. Also large fish in shorter tanks make the tank look small.

[ReefWhatYouSow]

Originally Posted by snorvich

There are others of that group. However Chevron is one of my favorites. I also like the yellow eyed kole tang. Long tanks are desirable for large algae grazers as it reduces the possibility of aggression. Also large fish in shorter tanks make the tank look small.

Alright... After looking through a lot of tangs here is the new proposed stocking list. I also added three clown gobies. Please let me know if these will all work together.

Thanks again!

Scissortail Gobies "Dart Fish" x3

Barnacle Blenny x5 (could always do 3 if I am over the tank limit, plan to add a barnacle home for them)

Lawn Mower Blenny

Green Clown Goby

Yellow Clown Goby

Black Clown Goby (can all three clown gobies be entered at once?)

Yellow Stripe Clingfish x2 (with urchins in the tank)

Exquisite Fairy Wrasse

Kauderns Cardinal Fish x2 (bonded)

Orange Clowns (Amphiprion Percula) x2

Bartlett's Anthias x3 (1 male, 2 females)

Squaretail Bristletooth Tang

Purple Tang

Blue Mandarins x2 (after a year depending on pod population)

[wiegel24]

I inherited a 55 gal FOWLR from my sisters classroom when she moved. She had the tank 4 years ish and I have had it almost 2. It has 2 clowns, not sure what kind but both are different. Had a green goby die and a blue damsel day a few months ago I have added a purple dottie back and 3 coralline snails. The tank also has 1" of sand and I really don't know how much Live Rock maybe 20-30Lbs. I think it was grayish in color and pretty normal shapes.

What else can I add or should I wait until I have all the right equipment?

I don't know how she kept any fish alive with the equipment she was using. I have been slowly upgrading. Tiny HOB filter upgraded to Fluval 406. Upgraded lighting from a 1 bulb florescent to an Odyssea Quad T5, ballast went out I think? Only 2 bulbs working now. Don't know if I should fix it or get a better fixture??? I added a Reef Octopus BH1000 Protein Skimmer, new metal heater (I keep it at 80 is that right?) and purchased a BRS rodi water filter. Only thing I haven't upgraded yet is the powerhead, its a cheap one maybe 500-750 gph? Was thinking about getting a bigger one but don't know if I need to with the filter and power head at opposite ends and the protein skimmer in the middle. Looks to move pretty good but fish kinda look bored.

Red Algea has also decided to move in but im trying to get rid of it with weekly 10% water changes and just ordered Phos-X to put in the 406. Was thinking 2 bags of carbon and 2 bags of Phos-X along with adding more fluval type bio balls. (I'm gona fill the basket up all the way with them unless that's to many?)

So my main question is, do I finally after 2 years have all the equipment I need to have happy health fish or am I missing something? Do I need a phosphate reactor? or is running it in my filter gona work just fine?

And what fish and cleaning crew members should I add? If you think I am even ready for that?

p.s. sorry I wrote a book

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ReefWhatYouSow

Alright... After looking through a lot of tangs here is the new proposed stocking list. I also added three clown gobies. Please let me know if these will all work together.

Thanks again!

Scissortail Gobies "Dart Fish" x3

Barnacle Blenny x5 (could always do 3 if I am over the tank limit, plan to add a barnacle home for them)

Lawn Mower Blenny

Green Clown Goby

Yellow Clown Goby

Black Clown Goby (can all three clown gobies be entered at once?)

Yellow Stripe Clingfish x2 (with urchins in the tank)

Exquisite Fairy Wrasse

Kauderns Cardinal Fish x2 (bonded)

Orange Clowns (Amphiprion Percula) x2

Bartlett's Anthias x3 (1 male, 2 females)

Squaretail Bristletooth Tang

Purple Tang

Blue Mandarins x2 (after a year depending on pod population)

Should work fine

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by wiegel24

I inherited a 55 gal FOWLR from my sisters classroom when she moved. She had the tank 4 years ish and I have had it almost 2. It has 2 clowns, not sure what kind but both are different. Had a green goby die and a blue damsel day a few months ago I have added a purple dottie back and 3 coralline snails. The tank also has 1" of sand and I really don't know how much Live Rock maybe 20-30Lbs. I think it was grayish in color and pretty normal shapes.

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility. For questions about anything else, I suggest creating your own thread in New to the Hobby. The purple dottyback will limit tank mates going forward. Two different clown species will not work long term.

What else can I add or should I wait until I have all the right equipment?

I don't know how she kept any fish alive with the equipment she was using. I have been slowly upgrading. Tiny HOB filter upgraded to Fluval 406. Upgraded lighting from a 1 bulb florescent to an Odyssea Quad T5, ballast went out I think? Only 2 bulbs working now. Don't know if I should fix it or get a better fixture??? I added a Reef Octopus BH1000 Protein Skimmer, new metal heater (I keep it at 80 is that right?) and purchased a BRS rodi water filter. Only thing I haven't upgraded yet is the powerhead, its a cheap one maybe 500-750 gph? Was thinking about getting a bigger one but don't know if I need to with the filter and power head at opposite ends and the protein skimmer in the middle. Looks to move pretty good but fish kinda look bored.

Red Algea has also decided to move in but im trying to get rid of it with weekly 10% water changes and just ordered Phos-X to put in the 406. Was thinking 2 bags of carbon and 2 bags of Phos-X along with adding more fluval type bio balls. (I'm gona fill the basket up all the way with them unless that's to many?)

So my main question is, do I finally after 2 years have all the equipment I need to have happy health fish or am I missing something? Do I need a phosphate reactor? or is running it in my filter gona work just fine?

And what fish and cleaning crew members should I add? If you think I am even ready for that?

p.s. sorry I wrote a book

[jdurell]

I have a 180 gallon reef tank with a 70 gallon sump/refugium and have the following for fish currently.

1- blue hippo tang
1- diamond watchman
1- banggai cardinalfish
1- chromis
1- tail spot blenny
2- true perculas

Would the following be compatible. I don't plan to add all of these just narrowing the list down. I just want to make sure that they are all compatible with each other.

1- copper band butterfly (only if it eats already)
1- flame angel (possibly not reef Safe)
1- coral beauty (possibly not reef safe)
1- foxface
schooling banner fish
carpenters fairy wrasse ( or possible a different group of fairy wrasses)
1- yellow tang
2- scissor tail blennys

Thanks

[jdurell]

Sorry scissor tail dartfish not blenny

[chefbill]

Building a 90g corner overflow mixed reef. Looking at the Reef Octopus Classic 150 as a skimmer. I'll be using ~120# of South Seas Base Rock (looks very good, bought 40# @ $1.90 and another 80# @ $1.75, I thought that was a great price).

Tentitive stock list:

Normal CUC, snails, not sure about hermits.
I'd like a flashy shrimp, I currently have a Coral Banded Shrimp, but he stays hidden.

Lawnmower blenny
Tang: one of powder blue, powder brown, kole or yellow
Pair of fancy ocell clowns
Carpenter's flasher wrass male + 2 females (concerned about open top tank)
Fairy wrass if above won't work
Bluedot Jawfish
Firefish X 2
Sunburst Anthias 1 or 2 or 1 male and 2 female Lyretails
Mandarin at some future point

Open to suggestions for additions that would fit the mix.