AquaIllumination PAR Measurements - Page 56

AQD_ottawa · 01/11/2011, 02:55 PM

Interesting going through the hole thread (wow I have eye strain :0 )

Something I notice is most people running their Ai's at much reduced amounts than myself. currently running up until recently whites at 80% and blue at 100% (this is the SOL V2 fixtures not the new SOL Blue).

My greens are great but my blues struggle, so I increased the whites to 100%, the only effect I have seen is the greens are getting much lighter and the blues starting to come through.

But my dilemma is this, why am I having to run so bright OR am I doing this the wrong way and actually the browned out blues are due to too much light?

It would be interesting to see other users percentages and height above water figures and also what effects on colour they are seeing?

tmgrash · 01/11/2011, 03:34 PM

I run my 6 units over my 240 5" above the water surface. They run at 100%/100% for 2 1/2 hours a day and ramp up to and down from that point throughout the day. My blues are great, I only have one green acro and he looks nice too (now that I think about it I need to get some green). If lps count the green on my frogspawn is great. I recently got a hold of a par meter and have a blue and white tenius thats been getting blasted with around 800 par for nearly a year, I looks fantastic.

AQD_ottawa · 01/11/2011, 03:40 PM

interesting thanks. I ramped up to 100% on the whites and noticed my corals started shedding so that was clearly too much for my 24" deep cube.

As I am Par-less right now I think I will go back to 55% and tweak each week and see what happens. I just wish i could get the blues and pinks out of these corals. Green is rocking

Here is a vid when the lamps were at 80% white and 100% blue for a good 4 months

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6belGt_NxU

djkms · 01/11/2011, 04:12 PM

Glad to hear people are getting these units up to 100%!

I have 3 units mounted sideways 12" over my 125 (72x18x21) and have left my ramps at 68blue and 52 white. I have been afraid to go any higher since I don't have a PAR meter and I don't want to fry my corals.

Sounds like I can safely & slowly start increasing my intensity to 100 blue and ?? white.

I like tmgrash's way - just having it max intensity for 2 1/2 hours and ramping the rest of the time. I was thinking about going this route at some point.

ieatchinese · 01/11/2011, 05:40 PM

All 6 of my AI Sol Super Blues have 70 degree optics on the outer four pucks and 40 degree optics on the inner four pucks.

Mystery solved. :-)

AQD_ottawa · 01/11/2011, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djkms

Glad to hear people are getting these units up to 100%!

I have 3 units mounted sideways 12" over my 125 (72x18x21) and have left my ramps at 68blue and 52 white. I have been afraid to go any higher since I don't have a PAR meter and I don't want to fry my corals.

Sounds like I can safely & slowly start increasing my intensity to 100 blue and ?? white.

I like tmgrash's way - just having it max intensity for 2 1/2 hours and ramping the rest of the time. I was thinking about going this route at some point.

I would be cautious, I have the SOL's with two whites and 1 blue. As I said above, for a while now my whites have been at 80% and recently brought them up to 90 then 100% but at 100% although the browned out blues acros were showing signs of colour, the other corals were shedding in strings when at full power. I have now done as a bove and set them to max out for a short period of time.

My schedule is now

8.30am blue/white 0%
1pm blue/white 100%
3pm blue/white 100%
8.30pm white 0%
8.30pm blue 4%
11pm blue 0%

gmr7494 · 01/12/2011, 12:44 PM

I have a 36" x 24" x 16" tank. I was wondering if I could get away with one 12" module since my tank is shallow. I'm planning on hanging them from the ceiling as well. Any thoughts would be much appreciated!

JBarnes · 01/12/2011, 01:59 PM

Any of you guys happen to know who has AI Blues in stock right now? Been calling around and nobody seems to have any. Suggestions appreciated. I'm on several back order lists at this time. Jerry.

James77 · 01/12/2011, 05:05 PM

How would these AI's work through a glass canopy?

James404 · 01/12/2011, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBarnes

Any of you guys happen to know who has AI Blues in stock right now? Been calling around and nobody seems to have any. Suggestions appreciated. I'm on several back order lists at this time. Jerry.

Same here, I'm waiting to hear about the superblues. Reefgeek had told me they should be getting them any day, BRS said within the next two weeks or so..

dougc · 01/12/2011, 05:56 PM

I must have gotten lucky. I place my order with Premium Aquatics just after Christmas and had them a week later. They got a big shipment in a few days after I ordered. Here they are over my 180.

To fit my canopy, I cut the rails into 18" sections and made aluminum brackets to hang them.

I've only been running for 3 days and I'm ramping up slowly from 30% (today is 32%). Still some neatening up to do to get the cabling more organized, but they are functional. No light spill anymore. Just about every photon goes into the tank. The top of the canopy is open, though, so I do get a funky reflected light display on the ceiling.

This is a very different look than I had under 10k MH and VHO actinics. A few corals don't look as good, but some look dramatically better. Anything that flouresces bursts with color. I didn't know my zoanthids were so good looking.

ieatchinese · 01/12/2011, 09:05 PM

The only complain that I have so far is what the lights have done to my Red Planet. It is no longer green with deep red polyps. It is completely a dark purple color, polyps and calcium base both.....lost all of its green. I am trying down low in the tank now to see if it is just too much PUR/PAR near the top. Everything else seems to love the lights. I'll take some pics this weekend and post.

wickedfish · 01/12/2011, 11:53 PM

Lower is better for the red planet I have 2 pieces the one in the lower 8" is red green and white the other is about 5" higher and is bleached and pink.

ieatchinese · 01/13/2011, 05:22 AM

wickedfish: Thanks so much. I hope that the piece that I placed on the sandbed will color up once again and then I will move the other other one lower.

7hogwarts · 01/13/2011, 06:07 AM

I was bleaching the heck out of Red Planet turned the whites to 47% and the Blues 100% Now Red Planet is green and red like it is suposed to be.

JBarnes · 01/13/2011, 09:18 AM

Spoke to George yesterday at ReefGeek and they were not able to satisfy their backorders with the units that were shipped to them so I'm on the waiting list for the next shipment. They have no idea how many and just when they will be shipped from AI. Jerry.

netboy · 01/13/2011, 11:45 AM

I just got mine yesterday from Premium Aquatics. Love them. Just thought I share that I hooked one of the modules up to a kill-a-watt meter and at settings 30w 30b 30 ryl and it was just readying about 15 watts. Just seems crazy.

JBarnes · 01/13/2011, 11:58 AM

Thanks for the tip, gave them a call and sure enough they have plenty in stock. Everyone else I called were putting me on waiting list. Placed my order should have them by Tuesday. Thanks again, Jerry.

TonyV · 01/13/2011, 12:43 PM

As promised...

Stock Legs

New Legs (Height TBD)

hmello@bermexin · 01/13/2011, 12:55 PM

TonyV where did you get the info on the new legs and are they available?

tor101898 · 01/13/2011, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyV

As promised...

Stock Legs

New Legs (Height TBD)

that looks good, waiting for size.

hmello@bermexin · 01/13/2011, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBarnes

Thanks for the tip, gave them a call and sure enough they have plenty in stock. Everyone else I called were putting me on waiting list. Placed my order should have them by Tuesday. Thanks again, Jerry.

Did they have the Super Blue 12" modules?

TonyV · 01/13/2011, 01:05 PM

Just curious, what size are people interested in? New version is currently set at 6" which is double the stock height. Material is not going to be the cheap plastic either. Most likely black anodized aluminum. I also have my rails anodized for a stealth look.

James404 · 01/13/2011, 01:06 PM

Wohoo just ordered my unit from Premium Aquatics for my nano!

one4gatr · 01/13/2011, 01:39 PM

Ok guys... got my Sol today. Will be doing a PAR comparison next week to my 4x24 5tho Tek and will post results here. A couple of questions... first does anyone know those PAR FTS I see all the time always seem to have fancy graphs and what not pointing out PAR a various heights and whatnot. Is that just someone editing with text or is there some sort of software people are using to chart it. Secondly my thought is to try to match the PAR of my current fixture with the SOL... is that ok or should I still be dialing it down to keep from scorching? And lastly my tank is 24x24x10 rimless shallow reef... does anyone have any specific PAR tests they want me to run for them? I will have the PAR meter for one day so I will try to accommodate anyones requests...

Thanks,

Mark

01/11/2011, 03:34 PM	#1377
tmgrash Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 580	I run my 6 units over my 240 5" above the water surface. They run at 100%/100% for 2 1/2 hours a day and ramp up to and down from that point throughout the day. My blues are great, I only have one green acro and he looks nice too (now that I think about it I need to get some green). If lps count the green on my frogspawn is great. I recently got a hold of a par meter and have a blue and white tenius thats been getting blasted with around 800 par for nearly a year, I looks fantastic. __________________ Travis Grasha 240 gal with Aquaillumination LED's

01/11/2011, 04:12 PM	#1379
djkms Fish Freak Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 1,136	Glad to hear people are getting these units up to 100%! I have 3 units mounted sideways 12" over my 125 (72x18x21) and have left my ramps at 68blue and 52 white. I have been afraid to go any higher since I don't have a PAR meter and I don't want to fry my corals. Sounds like I can safely & slowly start increasing my intensity to 100 blue and ?? white. I like tmgrash's way - just having it max intensity for 2 1/2 hours and ramping the rest of the time. I was thinking about going this route at some point. __________________ Kris - 200 Gallon Baby Reef Current Tank Info: 225 Upgrade Setup 11/17/2012 72x27x27 - Custom 40g sump/Diablo DCS-250int skimmer/Blueline HD40x/2 MP40's/Tunze ATO/2 Part/BRS RODI/ Neptune apex, WXM/3 Radium 250w Galaxy Ballast/8 39w T5's/Litermeter III/Aquavitro Salinity/20%WC/Carbon/GFO/Vinegar

01/11/2011, 05:40 PM	#1380
ieatchinese Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Khobar, Saudi Arabia Posts: 443	All 6 of my AI Sol Super Blues have 70 degree optics on the outer four pucks and 40 degree optics on the inner four pucks. Mystery solved. :-) __________________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw - Current Tank Info: Red Sea 750 XXL

01/12/2011, 05:05 PM	#1384
James77 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 8,158	How would these AI's work through a glass canopy? __________________ Jim Current Tank Info: 120g Mixed Reef and 75g Freshwater

01/12/2011, 05:56 PM	#1386
dougc Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Cherry HIll, NJ Posts: 751	I must have gotten lucky. I place my order with Premium Aquatics just after Christmas and had them a week later. They got a big shipment in a few days after I ordered. Here they are over my 180. To fit my canopy, I cut the rails into 18" sections and made aluminum brackets to hang them. I've only been running for 3 days and I'm ramping up slowly from 30% (today is 32%). Still some neatening up to do to get the cabling more organized, but they are functional. No light spill anymore. Just about every photon goes into the tank. The top of the canopy is open, though, so I do get a funky reflected light display on the ceiling. This is a very different look than I had under 10k MH and VHO actinics. A few corals don't look as good, but some look dramatically better. Anything that flouresces bursts with color. I didn't know my zoanthids were so good looking. __________________ Those are my principles and if you don't like 'em I have others. Current Tank Info: 180g AGA RR, Ecosystem,AI SOL LEDs, Apex controller, MRC CR, Tunze 6100s, Osmolator

01/11/2011, 02:55 PM	#1376
AQD_ottawa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK/Canada Posts: 8,020 Blog Entries: 33	Interesting going through the hole thread (wow I have eye strain :0 ) Something I notice is most people running their Ai's at much reduced amounts than myself. currently running up until recently whites at 80% and blue at 100% (this is the SOL V2 fixtures not the new SOL Blue). My greens are great but my blues struggle, so I increased the whites to 100%, the only effect I have seen is the greens are getting much lighter and the blues starting to come through. But my dilemma is this, why am I having to run so bright OR am I doing this the wrong way and actually the browned out blues are due to too much light? It would be interesting to see other users percentages and height above water figures and also what effects on colour they are seeing?

01/11/2011, 03:40 PM	#1378
AQD_ottawa Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK/Canada Posts: 8,020 Blog Entries: 33	interesting thanks. I ramped up to 100% on the whites and noticed my corals started shedding so that was clearly too much for my 24" deep cube. As I am Par-less right now I think I will go back to 55% and tweak each week and see what happens. I just wish i could get the blues and pinks out of these corals. Green is rocking Here is a vid when the lamps were at 80% white and 100% blue for a good 4 months http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6belGt_NxU

01/12/2011, 12:44 PM	#1382
gmr7494 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 394	I have a 36" x 24" x 16" tank. I was wondering if I could get away with one 12" module since my tank is shallow. I'm planning on hanging them from the ceiling as well. Any thoughts would be much appreciated!

01/12/2011, 01:59 PM	#1383
JBarnes Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mead, Colorado Posts: 328	Any of you guys happen to know who has AI Blues in stock right now? Been calling around and nobody seems to have any. Suggestions appreciated. I'm on several back order lists at this time. Jerry.

01/12/2011, 09:05 PM	#1387
ieatchinese Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Khobar, Saudi Arabia Posts: 443	The only complain that I have so far is what the lights have done to my Red Planet. It is no longer green with deep red polyps. It is completely a dark purple color, polyps and calcium base both.....lost all of its green. I am trying down low in the tank now to see if it is just too much PUR/PAR near the top. Everything else seems to love the lights. I'll take some pics this weekend and post. __________________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw - Current Tank Info: Red Sea 750 XXL

01/12/2011, 11:53 PM	#1388
wickedfish Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southbay Posts: 2,167	Lower is better for the red planet I have 2 pieces the one in the lower 8" is red green and white the other is about 5" higher and is bleached and pink.

01/13/2011, 05:22 AM	#1389
ieatchinese Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Khobar, Saudi Arabia Posts: 443	wickedfish: Thanks so much. I hope that the piece that I placed on the sandbed will color up once again and then I will move the other other one lower. __________________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw - Current Tank Info: Red Sea 750 XXL

01/13/2011, 06:07 AM	#1390
7hogwarts Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 125	I was bleaching the heck out of Red Planet turned the whites to 47% and the Blues 100% Now Red Planet is green and red like it is suposed to be.

01/13/2011, 09:18 AM	#1391
JBarnes Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mead, Colorado Posts: 328	Spoke to George yesterday at ReefGeek and they were not able to satisfy their backorders with the units that were shipped to them so I'm on the waiting list for the next shipment. They have no idea how many and just when they will be shipped from AI. Jerry.

01/13/2011, 11:45 AM	#1392
netboy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 304	I just got mine yesterday from Premium Aquatics. Love them. Just thought I share that I hooked one of the modules up to a kill-a-watt meter and at settings 30w 30b 30 ryl and it was just readying about 15 watts. Just seems crazy.

01/13/2011, 11:58 AM	#1393
JBarnes Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mead, Colorado Posts: 328	Thanks for the tip, gave them a call and sure enough they have plenty in stock. Everyone else I called were putting me on waiting list. Placed my order should have them by Tuesday. Thanks again, Jerry.

01/13/2011, 12:43 PM	#1394
TonyV Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Jose Posts: 435	As promised... Stock Legs New Legs (Height TBD) __________________ My Setup: Custom 70 Gallon Rimless w/external overflow coming soon!!!

01/13/2011, 12:55 PM	#1395
hmello@bermexin Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,205	TonyV where did you get the info on the new legs and are they available? __________________ Henry Somewhere something incredible is waiting to be known. Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, AI SOL 12" Super Blue

01/13/2011, 01:05 PM	#1398
TonyV Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Jose Posts: 435	Just curious, what size are people interested in? New version is currently set at 6" which is double the stock height. Material is not going to be the cheap plastic either. Most likely black anodized aluminum. I also have my rails anodized for a stealth look. __________________ My Setup: Custom 70 Gallon Rimless w/external overflow coming soon!!!

01/13/2011, 01:06 PM	#1399
James404 I <3 Acros Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,523	Wohoo just ordered my unit from Premium Aquatics for my nano! __________________ 80g Deep Blue Rimless - http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651295 225g Reef Savvy SPS Dominant - Retired http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1945361

01/13/2011, 01:39 PM	#1400
one4gatr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 400	Ok guys... got my Sol today. Will be doing a PAR comparison next week to my 4x24 5tho Tek and will post results here. A couple of questions... first does anyone know those PAR FTS I see all the time always seem to have fancy graphs and what not pointing out PAR a various heights and whatnot. Is that just someone editing with text or is there some sort of software people are using to chart it. Secondly my thought is to try to match the PAR of my current fixture with the SOL... is that ok or should I still be dialing it down to keep from scorching? And lastly my tank is 24x24x10 rimless shallow reef... does anyone have any specific PAR tests they want me to run for them? I will have the PAR meter for one day so I will try to accommodate anyones requests... Thanks, Mark

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