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Unread 03/11/2015, 06:31 PM   #14026
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Unread 03/12/2015, 01:19 AM   #14027
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60 gallon cube tank, 24 inch's square

Can I keep 3-5 Kaudem's Cardinal fish in this tank with a coral beauty angelfish?


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Unread 03/12/2015, 06:00 AM   #14028
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Here's what I am thinking. I have no fish yet so I'm also wondering what the best order of adding these fish are. I also have no idea what my max bio load should be so if this is too many then can you please suggest which ones to remove based on care level? Like if I have to take away any I'd rather take away the hard ones.

2 Banggai Cardinalfish tank raised preferable
3 Blue Green Chromis will become one over time
2 Percula Clownfish juveniles preferred
1 Flame Angel
1 Sixline Wrasse aggressive, avoid
1 Mandarin Goby after nine months with no sixline
1 Bicolor Pseudochromis aggressive, avoid
1 Fox Face Rabbit Fish last
1 Sunburst Anthias (maybe)
1 Cleaner Shrimp
1 Bubble Tip Anenome
Hermit Crabs and Snails (can they go together or is one better than the other? Also, how many of these guys is good?) crabs will kill snails, so pick crabs or snails (snails is probably better choice)
Corals as I go!

My set up...75 gallon with 40# of live sand, 75-100 pounds of live rock (I didn't weigh it to be sure). I have a 55 gallon sump set up with the Herbie Overflow method. A filter sock, skimmer, and phosban reactor. In my refugium area I have chaeto algae growing. I'm still researching lighting and will plan to purchase some soon.



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Unread 03/12/2015, 06:13 AM   #14029
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Will 3 "mated" zebra dart disturb into 1 over time? Divers Den have them listed as a trio and sold together. Thanks


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Unread 03/12/2015, 06:45 AM   #14030
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65 gallon with E Shopps R-200 refugium sump,SCA 301 Skimmer,Phosphate Reactor, 80 lbs live rock, 2 Ocellaris clowns, 3 blue green Chromis, 4 Benngai Cardinals, Flame Angel, Leopard Wrasse and clean up crew with maybe GSP to start for coral.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 06:47 AM   #14031
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Will 3 "mated" zebra dart disturb into 1 over time? Divers Den have them listed as a trio and sold together. Thanks
No, they should be stable.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 06:48 AM   #14032
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65 gallon with E Shopps R-200 refugium sump,SCA 301 Skimmer,Phosphate Reactor, 80 lbs live rock, 2 Ocellaris clowns, 3 blue green Chromis, 4 Benngai Cardinals, Flame Angel, Leopard Wrasse and clean up crew with maybe GSP to start for coral.
Chromis will become one over time; cardinals will become at most two over time. Leopard wrasse needs a mature tank.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 12:58 PM   #14033
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I'm just wondering what you mean by 3 blue green chromis will become 1 over time. Thanks for the response though!


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Unread 03/12/2015, 01:45 PM   #14034
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The Chromis are one now, I have them in a Holding tank with the clowns. I will hold off on the Leopard Wrasse then, Thank You.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 01:46 PM   #14035
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I think he means become 1 because they school


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Unread 03/12/2015, 02:31 PM   #14036
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I'm just wondering what you mean by 3 blue green chromis will become 1 over time. Thanks for the response though!
In a group of chromis, the strongest one will kill the rest of them over time. Takes a while, depending on group size, but that is the end result in almost all cases.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 02:33 PM   #14037
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I think he means become 1 because they school
No. First they do not school, in the beginning they will shoal but that is somewhat different. In a group of chromis, the strongest one will kill the rest of them over time. Takes a while, depending on group size, but that is the end result in almost all cases.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 04:18 PM   #14038
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So is it worth it to even get more than one then?


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Unread 03/12/2015, 04:21 PM   #14039
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So is it worth it to even get more than one then?
In my opinion, no. The additional issue with chromis is that they are highly susceptible to uronema marinum so you had best have a quarantine protocol in place. However that issue is well beyond the scope of this thread.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 04:27 PM   #14040
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Well I am very grateful for this advice and thread. Thank you so very much!


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Unread 03/12/2015, 04:51 PM   #14041
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Hi Steve,

24g nano cube, one or two blood orange ocellaris and a yellow clown goby. Wondering if getting small clowns and letting them duke it out to become a pair would be too stressful for them in for the 24g. If so, then one blood orange ocellaris only, but would it then be possible to have 2 or 3 gobies?

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Hi Steve,

24g nano cube, one or two blood orange ocellaris and a yellow clown goby. Wondering if getting small clowns and letting them duke it out to become a pair would be too stressful for them in for the 24g. If so, then one blood orange ocellaris only, but would it then be possible to have 2 or 3 gobies?

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Your tank is marginal but ok for a pair of the hybrid clownfish but I would definitely not add other fish. Even though they are somewhat less aggressive than GSM, they will would be intolerant of tank mates once sexually mature.


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Unread 03/12/2015, 05:02 PM   #14043
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Your tank is marginal but ok for a pair of the hybrid clownfish but I would definitely not add other fish. Even though they are somewhat less aggressive than GSM, they will would be intolerant of tank mates once sexually mature.
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Do you think three Agile Chromis would get along with the following fish in a 75 gallon reef tank?

Tomini tang
Bicolor blenny
Tanaka pygmy wrasse
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Purple firefish


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Do you think three Agile Chromis would get along with the following fish in a 75 gallon reef tank?

Tomini tang
Bicolor blenny
Tanaka pygmy wrasse
Gold assessor
Purple firefish
Yes.


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Innovative marine Nuvo 24
24g. 36" wide. 10" deep 12-13" high (display area.). Sump in back
25+lbs of live rock. Chemi pure blue in filter. Will add cheato soon as well.
475gph return pump

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2 perc clowns
1 azure damael
1 orange spotted goby with pistol shrimp
Hermit crabs/snails/a cleaner shrimp

Thinking of adding a Banggai Cardinal but I'm not sure if the current bioload is okay or pushing it.


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Innovative marine Nuvo 24
24g. 36" wide. 10" deep 12-13" high (display area.). Sump in back
25+lbs of live rock. Chemi pure blue in filter. Will add cheato soon as well.
475gph return pump

Fish:
2 perc clowns
1 azure damael
1 orange spotted goby with pistol shrimp
Hermit crabs/snails/a cleaner shrimp

Thinking of adding a Banggai Cardinal but I'm not sure if the current bioload is okay or pushing it.
The plan is fine but I would not add the cardinal


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Unread 03/13/2015, 07:18 AM   #14048
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75 US Gallon, 47" long. 4x 54W T5HO lights with individual reflectors, Deltec MCE600 skimmer, 60lbs Caribsea Fiji Pink live sand, 2x Jebao WP25 Wavemakers, 11 US Gallon ATO reservoir, TMC V2 Auto Top Off kit, no sump.

I want to keep a mix of soft and LPS corals, and I imagine any SPS are out of the question with softies?

Current planned stocklist:

2x Ocellaris Clownfish
1x Royal Gramma Basslet
1x Yellow Tang
2x Bangaii Cardinal
Firefish (1 or 2?)
Orchid Dottyback
Blue Reef Chromis OR Neon Damselfish
Midas Blenny (possibly)

1x Cleaner Shrimp
1x Blood Shrimp
Emerald Mithrax Crabs
Hermit Crabs
Trochus Snails

I dont know if this stocking is considered medium or heavy for a tank this size, and im also not sure how many of the clean-up crew i'll need.

The tank as it stands now:



Top off tank:





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75 US Gallon, 47" long. 4x 54W T5HO lights with individual reflectors, Deltec MCE600 skimmer, 60lbs Caribsea Fiji Pink live sand, 2x Jebao WP25 Wavemakers, 11 US Gallon ATO reservoir, TMC V2 Auto Top Off kit, no sump.

I want to keep a mix of soft and LPS corals, and I imagine any SPS are out of the question with softies? If you research "alleopathy" you will find why it is difficult although not impossible

Current planned stocklist:

2x Ocellaris Clownfish
1x Royal Gramma Basslet
1x Yellow Tang add last
2x Bangaii Cardinal
Firefish (1 or 2?) one only
Orchid Dottyback
Blue Reef Chromis OR Neon Damselfish The chromis is less aggressive
Midas Blenny (possibly)

1x Cleaner Shrimp
1x Blood Shrimp
Emerald Mithrax Crabs can take fish
Hermit Crabs kill snails so pick hermits or snails
Trochus Snails

I dont know if this stocking is considered medium or heavy for a tank this size, and im also not sure how many of the clean-up crew i'll need.

fine, except as annotated



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Hermit Crabs kill snails so pick hermits or snails
Trochus Snails
Really? My friend set up a marine tank 2 months ago and he has both red leg hermits and trochus snails, in fact the LFS gave him 6 of each as his first inhabitants. As far as im aware he still has all 12.


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