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Unread 01/27/2010, 09:16 PM   #1426
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90g tank has
1-YWG w/tiger pistol
2 Pajama Cardinals
2 Blue Chromis
2 Fire Goby
Now two clowns
CUC

would like to add a dwarf angel and a couple other various fish - looking to keep smaller peaceful fish so I can have more variety in various color assortments
suggestions
a flame angel would be perfect in there. I would also consider a dotty back(purple and yellow in colour)


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I don't have any experience with other pistols but have a Tiger/Orangespot pair and the fish is fine ,but the shrimp digs at least 6 new holes a day and piles the sand from them 3-4 inches high. He is extremely fond of burying anything you put on the sandbed or digging under a coral till it falls in his hole then covers it like a front porch. If I could catch him he would be gone in an instant.


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I have a 9 month old 55 gallon reef tank with a 15 gal sump. DSB, assorted corals and inverts and these fish so far:

8 x Chromis
1 tailspot blenny
1 Randall's goby
1 Stonogobiops nematodes
1 S. yasha

I would like to add:
1 tiger watchman goby (V. wardii): will this fish decimate my useful micro critters in DSB?
2 pink streaked wrasse (Pseudocheilinops ataenia): Wetweb says these are too touchy. Anyone kept them?

What do you think of these additions?

Thanks!


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Unread 01/28/2010, 07:25 PM   #1429
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I have a 9 month old 55 gallon reef tank with a 15 gal sump. DSB, assorted corals and inverts and these fish so far:

8 x Chromis
1 tailspot blenny
1 Randall's goby
1 Stonogobiops nematodes
1 S. yasha

I would like to add:
1 tiger watchman goby (V. wardii): will this fish decimate my useful micro critters in DSB?
2 pink streaked wrasse (Pseudocheilinops ataenia): Wetweb says these are too touchy. Anyone kept them?

What do you think of these additions?

Thanks!

A tiger watchman will likely decimate your sandbed and then die of starvation in a 55g. You're also filling up your sandbed niche by having three gobies already in a 55g; as they get bigger, it's gonna get crowded. 8 chromis is going to be a battle royale when they mature.


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Unread 01/28/2010, 09:08 PM   #1430
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9 month 29G cadlight (2009) system with many corals, 2 clams (that will be traded for 2 smaller ones when they get bigger) 120 lbs live rock. I want a lawnmower blenny because they have personality. Yer or no?


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Unread 01/28/2010, 10:53 PM   #1431
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9 month 29G cadlight (2009) system with many corals, 2 clams (that will be traded for 2 smaller ones when they get bigger) 120 lbs live rock. I want a lawnmower blenny because they have personality. Yer or no?
120 lbs of live rock in a 29g? Holy moly. Blennies of all kinds are possible clam mantle nippers... up to you whether or not you want to gamble. And if you add fish after, he could bully them as well.


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Curious on what some of you guys recommend for a minimum tank size for an achilles tang or powder brown tang? Currently have a 110 gallon tank but will be upgrading in the near future to a 240g in wall setup. Could an achilles or powder brown be kept in a 110 or should I just hold off till the 240 is built?


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Unread 01/28/2010, 11:45 PM   #1433
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Curious on what some of you guys recommend for a minimum tank size for an achilles tang or powder brown tang? Currently have a 110 gallon tank but will be upgrading in the near future to a 240g in wall setup. Could an achilles or powder brown be kept in a 110 or should I just hold off till the 240 is built?
Achilles' are pretty difficult fish. A 240g would be appropriate for an adult.


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Unread 01/28/2010, 11:58 PM   #1434
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my only concern with that many inverts in a 12 gal cube without fish is that there will not be enough to eat for them. Alot of what they eat is passed over fish food and waste.
but that will be a neat looking tank--hope you post some pictures on here of it
I (already) have a dendro I have to target feed nightly, which is still a bit messy while I get it down. I'd be purposly feeding inverts since this is the purpose of the tank.

I'm having a lot of problems finding detailed information on the goby/pistol pair choices. Some threads people are saying to get the yellow watchman / tiger pair because they dont require nearly as much real estate (I have a small sandbed, most is rock, DSB is about 4" though) and half of what im reading says the pistol will kill and eat othe shrimp, like the sexy shrimp or a cleaner shrimp that I want.

I'm all for a nice small goby and pistol since the tank is small.


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Unread 01/29/2010, 12:03 AM   #1435
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I understand they are a difficult fish, but its just one of those things where when you see it you gotta have it. I'm very willing to put in the time to see the fish is healthy and happy I will have to hold off until i get the 240 though which is a bummer.


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Unread 01/29/2010, 08:06 AM   #1436
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120 lbs of live rock in a 29g? Holy moly. Blennies of all kinds are possible clam mantle nippers... up to you whether or not you want to gamble. And if you add fish after, he could bully them as well.
My bad...39 Gallon...lol, pressed the wrong key


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Unread 01/29/2010, 01:49 PM   #1437
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I (already) have a dendro I have to target feed nightly, which is still a bit messy while I get it down. I'd be purposly feeding inverts since this is the purpose of the tank.

I'm having a lot of problems finding detailed information on the goby/pistol pair choices. Some threads people are saying to get the yellow watchman / tiger pair because they dont require nearly as much real estate (I have a small sandbed, most is rock, DSB is about 4" though) and half of what im reading says the pistol will kill and eat othe shrimp, like the sexy shrimp or a cleaner shrimp that I want.

I'm all for a nice small goby and pistol since the tank is small.
why not go with the yellow watchman goby and the ornamental shrimp then?


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Unread 01/29/2010, 01:51 PM   #1438
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Achilles' are pretty difficult fish. A 240g would be appropriate for an adult.

I agree
the powder brown would be fine


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Unread 01/29/2010, 03:09 PM   #1439
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300 gallon circular tank, 42" diameter and 42" high with 125 gallon refugium and a 100 gallon sump.
Would a 2.5" Emperor Angel get along with a 4" Maculosis Angel?


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Would a yellow tang outgrow my tank?

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Unread 01/29/2010, 06:54 PM   #1441
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I (already) have a dendro I have to target feed nightly, which is still a bit messy while I get it down. I'd be purposly feeding inverts since this is the purpose of the tank.

I'm having a lot of problems finding detailed information on the goby/pistol pair choices. Some threads people are saying to get the yellow watchman / tiger pair because they dont require nearly as much real estate (I have a small sandbed, most is rock, DSB is about 4" though) and half of what im reading says the pistol will kill and eat othe shrimp, like the sexy shrimp or a cleaner shrimp that I want.

I'm all for a nice small goby and pistol since the tank is small.
Coral Magazine dedicated an entire issue to pistol and goby pairs about a year or so back- you might try finding a back copy. Basically, most of the time, things go right. Less often, they don't pair. Even less often, your shrimp kills your goby. Even less often, your fish kills your shrimp. The pistols that pair with gobies will not hunt other shrimp species, although I have seen skunk cleaners kill and eat peppermint shrimp on two occasions now.


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Unread 01/29/2010, 06:57 PM   #1442
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Would a 2.5" Emperor Angel get along with a 4" Maculosis Angel?

Those both grow to be big boys, but in that size tank, "should" be fine. Neither are particularly naughty angels... unless you get a bad seed


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i have a mixed reef that is a 40g breader with one clown and one sixline wass.
also is connected to a 30g sump and also has a 10g fuge and 20g invert tank with a nem and clown plumbed into the sump.

want to get a frogfish!


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i have a mixed reef that is a 40g breader with one clown and one sixline wass.
also is connected to a 30g sump and also has a 10g fuge and 20g invert tank with a nem and clown plumbed into the sump.

want to get a frogfish!

frog fish eat crustaceans other fish and even each other


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Coral Magazine dedicated an entire issue to pistol and goby pairs about a year or so back- you might try finding a back copy. Basically, most of the time, things go right. Less often, they don't pair. Even less often, your shrimp kills your goby. Even less often, your fish kills your shrimp. The pistols that pair with gobies will not hunt other shrimp species, although I have seen skunk cleaners kill and eat peppermint shrimp on two occasions now.
Ok sweet. I was planning on buying the pair together from a LFS. If the pairing types dont kill other shrimpies then thats exactly what I needed to know. I think I'm going to go with the smaller goby/pistol instead of the yellow watchmen and tiger they always carry.

Thanks!


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5" Lyretail Hogfish and a 6" Harlequin Tusk would get along? Thanks again!


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Ok sweet. I was planning on buying the pair together from a LFS. If the pairing types dont kill other shrimpies then thats exactly what I needed to know. I think I'm going to go with the smaller goby/pistol instead of the yellow watchmen and tiger they always carry.

Thanks!
I prefer the Randall's Pistol and goby combo. My LFS had to remove their YWG and Tiger pair from their DT because they were moving too much sand on a daily basis


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90 gal bowfront w/the following:
Midas blenny
Mater pair-gold band clowns
Flame angel
Lawnmower blenny
Orange spot goby
Mandarin goby
Sailfin tang (bye bye)

Ok let me start by saying that the sailfin which has been in the tank for 4 months, has officially turned into a MONSTER. Added a naso Wednesday....dead yesterday. No marks/bites, just kept flashing him and pushing him into hiding. Naso could have been a little weak to begin with. Taking the sailfin to LFS tomorrow. He is hitting my hand with his tail when I have in tank.

What out adding a few green chromis? Small regal? Small naso?

Thanks in advance.


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90 gal bowfront w/the following:
Midas blenny
Mater pair-gold band clowns
Flame angel
Lawnmower blenny
Orange spot goby
Mandarin goby
Sailfin tang (bye bye)

Ok let me start by saying that the sailfin which has been in the tank for 4 months, has officially turned into a MONSTER. Added a naso Wednesday....dead yesterday. No marks/bites, just kept flashing him and pushing him into hiding. Naso could have been a little weak to begin with. Taking the sailfin to LFS tomorrow. He is hitting my hand with his tail when I have in tank.

What out adding a few green chromis? Small regal? Small naso?

Thanks in advance.

Regal and Naso are both too big for that tank. You can add chromis, but they have the potential to be nasty.


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