Official: Masterflex Calcium Reactor Setup Thread - Page 58

Jlentz · 09/12/2015, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkgar

I have a 1502 and on my lid there is a port for the PH probe. I believe it it an upgrade lid though.

They appear to have discontinued the lid with the ph port. At least according to marinedepot.

hkgar · 09/13/2015, 09:54 AM

Might have found one for you

http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/kor...or-c-1502-3002

Cheaper here

http://www.freshmarine.com/aquarium-kl3123.html

Another

http://www.petsupplynow.net/korallin...1141353093.php

Google search finds a few.

Jlentz · 09/13/2015, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkgar

Might have found one for you

http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/kor...or-c-1502-3002

Cheaper here

http://www.freshmarine.com/aquarium-kl3123.html

Another

http://www.petsupplynow.net/korallin...1141353093.php

Google search finds a few.

Thanks hkgar,

The first and 3rd were dead ends but I gave #2 a shot. I don't think I got that one form google yesterday.

Jlentz · 09/13/2015, 03:45 PM

Hkgar, did you replace the blue fittings for the in/out with Jh fittings on your 1502? What's the thread pitch?

hkgar · 09/14/2015, 12:05 PM

Glad to help, but everything you need to know is in this thread. See post number 3 of this thread. This is what I used.

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=42009

I used four, one for the reactor inlet, one for the outlet and one on each side of the L17 tubing.

Jlentz · 09/14/2015, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkgar

Glad to help, but everything you need to know is in this thread. See post number 3 of this thread. This is what I used.

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=42009

Perfect. Thanks! I was hoping that was it. I ordered some extra. They just shipped today.

I was wondering about how to block the other outlet as well. Is that the best way to manage it?

hkgar · 09/14/2015, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlentz

I was wondering about how to block the other outlet as well. Is that the best way to manage it?

Best way I could come up with and it hasn't failed me yet.

I use the top of lid outlet to be able to purge gas if necessary

yifan917 · 09/14/2015, 08:42 PM

Bump, anyone?

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Originally Posted by yifan917

Has anyone tried this unit on the reactor outlet?
http://www.grotech-aquarientechnik.d...operation.html

hkgar · 09/15/2015, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yifan917

Bump, anyone?

No replies probably means no one has used it.

naterealbig · 09/15/2015, 09:20 PM

Hi everyone, this is a bit off topic, but may come in handy for others with a Cole Parmer pump. I have 2 contacts on the back of my pump for a switch, that when closed/open will start/stop the pump, without having to actually remove power from the controller (using my apex).

Does anyone have a link for a "plug in" relay that I can control from my Apex, that can open and close the designated circuit to turn the pump on and off?

Thanks!

slief · 09/16/2015, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naterealbig

Hi everyone, this is a bit off topic, but may come in handy for others with a Cole Parmer pump. I have 2 contacts on the back of my pump for a switch, that when closed/open will start/stop the pump, without having to actually remove power from the controller (using my apex).

Does anyone have a link for a "plug in" relay that I can control from my Apex, that can open and close the designated circuit to turn the pump on and off?

Thanks!

I've not see such a thing. Have mine plugged into an EB4 along with my Co2 regulator and CaRX circulation pump.

zachts · 09/16/2015, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naterealbig

Hi everyone, this is a bit off topic, but may come in handy for others with a Cole Parmer pump. I have 2 contacts on the back of my pump for a switch, that when closed/open will start/stop the pump, without having to actually remove power from the controller (using my apex).

Does anyone have a link for a "plug in" relay that I can control from my Apex, that can open and close the designated circuit to turn the pump on and off?

Thanks!

not sure why you would really need this but you'd have to DIY something with a relay either operated off a spare VDM port or a controlled outlet. I guess it could be nice if you don't have the CP located where it would be able to be plugged into an EB8.

For maintenance one could just wire a simple switch on, if unplugging the pump is a hassle.......

JB NY · 09/16/2015, 09:43 AM

I have been thinking for a while of changing to a masterflex to control the effluent on my MTC ProCal Ca reactor, the unit I am looking at right now is a 7524-40 with an 7518-10 Easy Load Head would that work? I think it should, I am currently dosing 30ml/min from my Ca reactor. And it looks like the Easy Head accepts LS17 tubing.

swk · 09/16/2015, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB NY

I have been thinking for a while of changing to a masterflex to control the effluent on my MTC ProCal Ca reactor, the unit I am looking at right now is a 7524-40 with an 7518-10 Easy Load Head would that work? I think it should, I am currently dosing 30ml/min from my Ca reactor. And it looks like the Easy Head accepts LS17 tubing.

Spec wise it looks fine. Looks like a brushed drive from my quick google search so it may be a bit noisy. You'll be so happy once you've made the switch!

JB NY · 09/16/2015, 11:31 AM

I thought it might be a brushed drive too, the unit would be in a dedicated sump room, which is pretty noisy in itself, so I have no need for a silent pump. But other than that, is the brushed drive prone to failure more than a brushless, or any other reason to get a brushless other than noise?

swk · 09/16/2015, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB NY

I thought it might be a brushed drive too, the unit would be in a dedicated sump room, which is pretty noisy in itself, so I have no need for a silent pump. But other than that, is the brushed drive prone to failure more than a brushless, or any other reason to get a brushless other than noise?

Technically the brushed units require maintenance of the brushes which I believe includes replacement of them. If the pump is discontinued then it may be an issue to source them. But, wait for one of the more experienced guys to back me up on this. I've really only been using these pumps for a few months and researching them for only a bit longer. If the price is right I wouldn't be too concerned. And, as long as the head supports ls17 and maybe 18 tubing you should be good to go.

TylerHaworth · 09/16/2015, 01:54 PM

So... I'm looking to pick up a CP pump for my CaRX... After looking on eBay for the past two hours and trying to cross reference stuff, I'm even more confused than ever...

Anyone got a lead on a brushless pump/head/controller that would suit a 180 gallon system?

JB NY · 09/16/2015, 02:05 PM

Is there any reason I can not just buy the tubing from McMaster?

Both of these seem to be the same as LS17 no?

Silicone tubing
http://www.mcmaster.com/#3038k17/=yytlr5

Tygon tubing
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5552k25/=yytkpz

Jlentz · 09/16/2015, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naterealbig

Hi everyone, this is a bit off topic, but may come in handy for others with a Cole Parmer pump. I have 2 contacts on the back of my pump for a switch, that when closed/open will start/stop the pump, without having to actually remove power from the controller (using my apex).

Does anyone have a link for a "plug in" relay that I can control from my Apex, that can open and close the designated circuit to turn the pump on and off?

Thanks!

I've been thinking the same thing. It would be nice.

Unfortunately apex has a wonky, not really well thought out, gpio implementation. (It's actually gpi, they left out the o.) so there is no output available.

Over on the Neptune forums I believe I saw some people using the 0-10v outputs to to drive low voltage relays or arduinos to convert it.
(Technically I guess 0-10v would be considered the outputs but most gpio implementations are setup for 8 in, 8 out.)

For now I'm just planning on plugging it into an EB outlet.

Does anyone know if the masterflex will run ok on a triac output?

hkgar · 09/17/2015, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JB NY

Is there any reason I can not just buy the tubing from McMaster?

Both of these seem to be the same as LS17 no?

Silicone tubing
http://www.mcmaster.com/#3038k17/=yytlr5

Tygon tubing
http://www.mcmaster.com/#5552k25/=yytkpz

The Tygon is not food safe, it is listed for fuel and lubricants.

I don't know how well silicone will hold up with 24/7 usage.

JB NY · 09/17/2015, 02:19 PM

Yeah I figured that out a little while later. Some other ones I am looking at.

Same as Masterflex Norprene Food Tubing $1.67 foot
http://www.mcmaster.com/#52035k19/=yz7vyx

Same as Masterflex black Norprene $0.96 foot
http://www.mcmaster.com/#51075k27/=yz81cb

Santoprene tubing $0.49 foot
http://www.mcmaster.com/#51225k27/=yz86io

Santoprene and Norprene look to last a long time on a Peristaltic pump.

Jlentz · 09/17/2015, 08:25 PM

One thing that bugs me about McMaster is that it's often hard to find out exactly what you are getting.

I just stuck with us plastic.

naterealbig · 09/17/2015, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slief

I've not see such a thing. Have mine plugged into an EB4 along with my Co2 regulator and CaRX circulation pump.

Thanks for the reply Scott.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachts

not sure why you would really need this but you'd have to DIY something with a relay either operated off a spare VDM port or a controlled outlet. I guess it could be nice if you don't have the CP located where it would be able to be plugged into an EB8.

For maintenance one could just wire a simple switch on, if unplugging the pump is a hassle.......

The CP pump will be used with a Kalkwasser reactor until I can afford a calcium reactor (looking @ the MRC line). The pump would turn on and off several times a day, and I figured if the OEM put a set of contacts to remotely turn on and off the pump, then I should use them

The pump will be mounted on the side of my aquarium, right next to an EB8. The proximity isn't the issue, and I can easily put together a DIY job from a basic 120V relay. I just wanted something that looked nice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlentz

I've been thinking the same thing. It would be nice.

Unfortunately apex has a wonky, not really well thought out, gpio implementation. (It's actually gpi, they left out the o.) so there is no output available.

Over on the Neptune forums I believe I saw some people using the 0-10v outputs to to drive low voltage relays or arduinos to convert it.
(Technically I guess 0-10v would be considered the outputs but most gpio implementations are setup for 8 in, 8 out.)

For now I'm just planning on plugging it into an EB outlet.

Does anyone know if the masterflex will run ok on a triac output?

For now I'm plugging it into an EB8 as well. As often as it will be turned on and off however, I thought it may have some effect on the pumps life span.

....I'll keep looking......

Jlentz · 09/18/2015, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naterealbig

As often as it will be turned on and off however, I thought it may have some effect on the pumps life span.

.

Yep. It would definitely be better for it. All the power on/off is worse than using the gpio.

Inrush current is what kills power supplies. The gpio is essentially the same thing as pressing the stop button. The unit would stay powered up and ready to go.

It's really a shame Neptune ignores the functionality of the output part of gpio. (I've actually got a list of things I don't like about them but I wouldn't want to go without it).

JB NY · 09/18/2015, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlentz

One thing that bugs me about McMaster is that it's often hard to find out exactly what you are getting.

I just stuck with us plastic.

A lot of times yes, these all have material PDFs for them so you sort of know what you are getting, they also sell the PharMed tubing as well, it is just $2 a foot more.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#50345k79/=yzpkau

09/13/2015, 09:54 AM	#1427
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	Might have found one for you http://www.aquariumspecialty.com/kor...or-c-1502-3002 Cheaper here http://www.freshmarine.com/aquarium-kl3123.html Another http://www.petsupplynow.net/korallin...1141353093.php Google search finds a few. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

09/14/2015, 12:05 PM	#1430
hkgar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dewitt MI Posts: 5,051	Glad to help, but everything you need to know is in this thread. See post number 3 of this thread. This is what I used. http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=42009 I used four, one for the reactor inlet, one for the outlet and one on each side of the L17 tubing. __________________ Gary 180 gallon, 40 gallon sump, 3 250 W MH + 4 80W ATI T5's, MTC MVX 36 Skimmer, Apex controller Aquamaxx T-3 CaRx Current Tank Info: A 2 Barred Rabbitfish, Red Head Salon, Yellow/Purple, McMaster Fairy, Possum, 2 Leopard Wrasses, Kole, & Atlantic Blue Tangs, 2 Percula Clown, 3 PJ and 1 Banggai Cardinalfish , Swallowtail, Bellus and Coral Beauty Angels

09/15/2015, 09:20 PM	#1435
naterealbig Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,252	Hi everyone, this is a bit off topic, but may come in handy for others with a Cole Parmer pump. I have 2 contacts on the back of my pump for a switch, that when closed/open will start/stop the pump, without having to actually remove power from the controller (using my apex). Does anyone have a link for a "plug in" relay that I can control from my Apex, that can open and close the designated circuit to turn the pump on and off? Thanks! __________________ My skimmate has notes of saffron, and a hint of lilac.

09/16/2015, 09:43 AM	#1438
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	I have been thinking for a while of changing to a masterflex to control the effluent on my MTC ProCal Ca reactor, the unit I am looking at right now is a 7524-40 with an 7518-10 Easy Load Head would that work? I think it should, I am currently dosing 30ml/min from my Ca reactor. And it looks like the Easy Head accepts LS17 tubing. __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/16/2015, 11:31 AM	#1440
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	I thought it might be a brushed drive too, the unit would be in a dedicated sump room, which is pretty noisy in itself, so I have no need for a silent pump. But other than that, is the brushed drive prone to failure more than a brushless, or any other reason to get a brushless other than noise? __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/13/2015, 03:45 PM	#1429
Jlentz Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 332	Hkgar, did you replace the blue fittings for the in/out with Jh fittings on your 1502? What's the thread pitch?

09/16/2015, 01:54 PM	#1442
TylerHaworth Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Barboursville, WV Posts: 628	So... I'm looking to pick up a CP pump for my CaRX... After looking on eBay for the past two hours and trying to cross reference stuff, I'm even more confused than ever... Anyone got a lead on a brushless pump/head/controller that would suit a 180 gallon system? __________________ 180 Gallon Rimless. Halides. MP40's. Other Goodies.

09/16/2015, 02:05 PM	#1443
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	Is there any reason I can not just buy the tubing from McMaster? Both of these seem to be the same as LS17 no? Silicone tubing http://www.mcmaster.com/#3038k17/=yytlr5 Tygon tubing http://www.mcmaster.com/#5552k25/=yytkpz __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/17/2015, 02:19 PM	#1446
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	Yeah I figured that out a little while later. Some other ones I am looking at. Same as Masterflex Norprene Food Tubing $1.67 foot http://www.mcmaster.com/#52035k19/=yz7vyx Same as Masterflex black Norprene $0.96 foot http://www.mcmaster.com/#51075k27/=yz81cb Santoprene tubing $0.49 foot http://www.mcmaster.com/#51225k27/=yz86io Santoprene and Norprene look to last a long time on a Peristaltic pump. __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

09/17/2015, 08:25 PM	#1447
Jlentz Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 332	One thing that bugs me about McMaster is that it's often hard to find out exactly what you are getting. I just stuck with us plastic.