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Unread 06/08/2015, 04:20 PM   #14901
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Hi Steve,

It has been a long time since I asked about compatibility. Last time I posted I had no fish.

Our tank is a 250 gallon display tank + 100 gallon sump/refugium.

Currently we have excellent
1) Pair of Amphiprion ocellaris (Snowflake Clowns)
2) Pair of Pterapogon kauderni (Banggai Cardinals) M+F (almost 100% sure we have an actual pair, the jaws look different and they are always together in the tank for 3 months now)
3) Harem of Pseudanthias bimaculatus (Twin-spot Anthias) M+F (are going to add more females when our local store gets them in)
4) Pair of Synchiropus splendidus (Mandarin Dragonets) M+F They have been in tank almost a year and are nice and plump.
5) An Ecsenius midas (Midas Blenny)
6) A Siganus Vigratus (Lined Rabbitfish)

We want to add: except for the chromis, fine

1) A Gramma melacara (Black Cap Basslet)
2) A Chromis cyaneus (Blue Reef Chromis) I do not recommend chromis as they are highly susceptible to uronema
3) Centropyge loriculus (Flame Angel) We will be limiting our corals accordingly.
4) Two Acanthurus coeruleus (Atlantic Blue Tang) Planning on getting them when they are both yellow still. In the wild they mate in large groups but travel in pairs that are not sex specific so we are planning on attempting it.


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Unread 06/08/2015, 04:43 PM   #14902
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210 gallon display(6 ft). Getting the tank set up next week with all cured liverock so hopefully it will cycle quickly. The fish that are left over from my 69 that broke on Saturday night will be moving to the 210. So I will call them the current inhabitants to simplify
2x percula clowns
Starry blenny
Royal gramma
Valentini puffer
Tailspot blenny
Then I want to add:
Red firefish x 3
Blonde Naso tang
Chevron tang
Desjardini sailfin
Purple tang
Powder blue tang
Hippo tang
Flame angel
Coral beauty
Group of anthias (dispar or lyre tail I think, but if those aren't compatible then I can choose a different kind)
Midas blenny
Melanurus wrasse
Carpenters flasher wrasse
Yellow coris

Also, what should be introduced first?


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210 gallon display(6 ft). Getting the tank set up next week with all cured liverock so hopefully it will cycle quickly. The fish that are left over from my 69 that broke on Saturday night will be moving to the 210. So I will call them the current inhabitants to simplify
2x percula clowns
Starry blenny
Royal gramma
Valentini puffer
Tailspot blenny
Then I want to add:
Red firefish x 3 one only
Blonde Naso tang needs a larger tank
Chevron tang
Desjardini sailfin
Purple tang
Powder blue tang
Hippo tang needs a larger tank
Flame angel
Coral beauty
Group of anthias (dispar or lyre tail I think, but if those aren't compatible then I can choose a different kind)
Midas blenny
Melanurus wrasse
Carpenters flasher wrasse
Yellow coris

Also, what should be introduced first?
In my opinion, you can only have three of the tangs in this sized tank excluding those that require a larger tank. Order is (existing fish first) most aggressive last, most passive first.


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Unread 06/08/2015, 07:37 PM   #14904
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We have just setup our new tank and are planning out livestock. Recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Display tank:
300g tank, 150lbs Pukani dry rock (seeded with Live rock), 320lbs live sand, custom LED with a total of 456 3W diodes, Jebao 12000DCT return pump, 2x Jebao RW-20 powerheads

Sump:
90g, RO Regal 300SSS skimmer, 40lbs live rock, 2x 800W heaters on controllers, Biopellet reactor, Carbon reactor, soon to add GFO reactor, and eventually a calcium reactor. Tunze ATO with 55g Reservoir.

We are planning on doing a mixed reef, though mostly SPS, LPS, Zoas, and maybe an anemone. We will not have crabs, but have considered sand dwelling snails like nassarius and fighting conch.

Current inhabitant:
Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse

Intended inhabitants:

Melanarus Wrasse
A couple Flasher and/or Fairy wrasse
Naso Tang
Powder Blue Tang
Achiles Tang
4-5 sand sifting Goby
Spotted Mandarin maybe a pair (after at least 6 months)
Blue spot jawfish
A couple cleaner wrasse

We were planning on doing a good sized school of chromis until reading this thread. Are there any other schooling fish you could recommend? We know anthias and cardinals, but we are not a big fan of the cardinals and worry about feeding the anthias.

Also any other fish you think would make good additions?


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Unread 06/08/2015, 08:34 PM   #14905
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We have just setup our new tank and are planning out livestock. Recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Display tank:
300g tank, 150lbs Pukani dry rock (seeded with Live rock), 320lbs live sand, custom LED with a total of 456 3W diodes, Jebao 12000DCT return pump, 2x Jebao RW-20 powerheads

Sump:
90g, RO Regal 300SSS skimmer, 40lbs live rock, 2x 800W heaters on controllers, Biopellet reactor, Carbon reactor, soon to add GFO reactor, and eventually a calcium reactor. Tunze ATO with 55g Reservoir.

We are planning on doing a mixed reef, though mostly SPS, LPS, Zoas, and maybe an anemone. We will not have crabs, but have considered sand dwelling snails like nassarius and fighting conch.

Current inhabitant:
Lubbock's Fairy Wrasse

Intended inhabitants:

Melanarus Wrasse
A couple Flasher and/or Fairy wrasse
Naso Tang
Powder Blue Tang
Achiles Tang
4-5 sand sifting Goby multiple sand sifting gobies won't work even in this sized tank
Spotted Mandarin maybe a pair (after at least 6 months)
Blue spot jawfish needs peaceful tank mates and cooler temperatures
A couple cleaner wrasse one is fine, multiple won't work

We were planning on doing a good sized school of chromis until reading this thread. Even if they were "clean" (which is problematic) they will winnow down until you have one or at most two Are there any other schooling fish you could recommend? We know anthias and cardinals, but we are not a big fan of the cardinals and worry about feeding the anthias. Anthias is the best bet although they will shoal not school and do best with multiple feedings per day

Also any other fish you think would make good additions?



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Unread 06/09/2015, 11:59 AM   #14906
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Mixing halichoeres

Do you think a Christmas wrasse and vroliks wrasse would be ok together in a 180?


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Unread 06/09/2015, 12:58 PM   #14907
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Steve,
i was looking into adding a few more fish to my tank its 90 gallon with 30 gallon sump 125 lbs of live rock, deep sand bed.
I currently have
1 pair of clowns (Black ice ocellaris & Fancy piccaso percula)
1Mandarin dragonet (been with me for 8 months now)
2 red firefish (started with 3 then singled one out and he was a goner)
1 flame angel (very friendly no aggression)
1 yellow tang (im in the process of talking my wife into letting us rehome him, it was the first and only fish she has ever wanted. and this fish is the only interest she has in this hobby... its been a struggle with her. the reason i want to rehome is im stressed about him being cramped even though its a small yellow tang)
1 marine betta
1 scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp
3 brittle stars
1 large RBTA

may i get your advice on the following
i am wanting to get
a pair for yellow watchman gobies
and a yellow eye kole tang

also looking for any angel that is compatible with my setup and inhabitants.
thanks in advance


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Do you think a Christmas wrasse and vroliks wrasse would be ok together in a 180?
Halichoeres wrasses mix well without issue.


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Was there a question?


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Unread 06/09/2015, 01:03 PM   #14910
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Halichoeres wrasses mix well without issue.
Great, thank you. Some people from a Google search had some issues but theirs were already established. Just wanted to make sure, liveaquarias bio made it seem they would be ok together. I'd probably introduce at the same time and qt together for more chance of success


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Great, thank you. Some people from a Google search had some issues but theirs were already established. Just wanted to make sure, liveaquarias bio made it seem they would be ok together. I'd probably introduce at the same time and qt together for more chance of success
Concurrent introduction is a good thing for most competitors but Halichoeres should not be an issue with your protocol.


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Unread 06/09/2015, 01:12 PM   #14912
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Thank you for the information, I think I like them better than some of the fish on my list. Are halichoeres compatible with nerites/ nassarius/ cerith snails, conches, and brittle starfish as well? I read they eat worms and pyramellid snails, so these should be ok?


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Steve,
i was looking into adding a few more fish to my tank its 90 gallon with 30 gallon sump 125 lbs of live rock, deep sand bed.
I currently have
1 pair of clowns (Black ice ocellaris & Fancy piccaso percula)
1Mandarin dragonet (been with me for 8 months now)
2 red firefish (started with 3 then singled one out and he was a goner)
1 flame angel (very friendly no aggression)
1 yellow tang (im in the process of talking my wife into letting us rehome him, it was the first and only fish she has ever wanted. and this fish is the only interest she has in this hobby... its been a struggle with her. the reason i want to rehome is im stressed about him being cramped even though its a small yellow tang)
1 marine betta
1 scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp
3 brittle stars
1 large RBTA

i am wanting to get
a pair for yellow watchman gobies
and a yellow eye kole tang

also looking for any angel that is compatible with my setup and inhabitants.
thanks in advance

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Was there a question?

yes there was. i wanted your advice.


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Thank you for the information, I think I like them better than some of the fish on my list. Are halichoeres compatible with nerites/ nassarius/ cerith snails, conches, and brittle starfish as well? I read they eat worms and pyramellid snails, so these should be ok?
I personally do not trust Halichoeres or Thalassoma wrasses with inverts.


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Unread 06/09/2015, 01:46 PM   #14915
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I personally do not trust Halichoeres or Thalassoma wrasses with inverts.
Oh dang. Do you think two sand sifting gobies would be enough for a 72x24x24 2-3" sand bed? Since the snails may not work ..


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Oh dang. Do you think two sand sifting gobies would be enough for a 72x24x24 2-3" sand bed? Since the snails may not work ..
For the purpose of ????


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Turning the sand and making sure there's no build up


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Turning the sand and making sure there's no build up
I doubt that these fish would accomplished that.


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210 gallon.
Pair of perculas
Royal gramma
Tailspot blenny
Starry blenny
Midas blenny
10 resplendent anthias or ly retails
Flame angel
Coral beauty angel
Chevron tang
Powder blue tang
Purple or yellow tang
Pair of bird wrasse
Melanurus wrasse
Carpenters flasher wrasse
Red firefish


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210 gallon.
Pair of perculas
Royal gramma
Tailspot blenny
Starry blenny
Midas blenny
10 resplendent anthias or ly retails
Flame angel
Coral beauty angel
Chevron tang
Powder blue tang
Purple or yellow tang
Pair of bird wrasse I have doubts about their compatibilty with the other wrasses
Melanurus wrasse
Carpenters flasher wrasse
Red firefish
Should be fine except as noted


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Unread 06/09/2015, 10:46 PM   #14921
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Would it be fine to introduce the fish I have listed in this order? It's a 28 gallon nano cube.

1 Pearly Jawfish (already have him)
2 Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish
2 Cleaner shrimp
Clean up crew of snails
1 Helfrichi
1 Pink Streaked Wrasse (Cryptic Wrasse)

The reasoning is I'm having a hard time currently locating a helfrichi and pink streaked wrasse locally.


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Would it be fine to introduce the fish I have listed in this order? It's a 28 gallon nano cube.

1 Pearly Jawfish (already have him)
2 Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish
2 Cleaner shrimp
Clean up crew of snails
1 Helfrichi
1 Pink Streaked Wrasse (Cryptic Wrasse)

The reasoning is I'm having a hard time currently locating a helfrichi and pink streaked wrasse locally.
Yes. The two fish you are waiting to locate are superb and worth the effort


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Unread 06/10/2015, 12:38 PM   #14923
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Currently in a 28g JBJ, I've got 1 clownfish, 1 watchman, 1 coral banded shrimp, several hermits+ snails, 1 emerald.

looking to either get 1 jawfish or 2 fire gobys. which should I do?


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Currently in a 28g JBJ, I've got 1 clownfish, 1 watchman, 1 coral banded shrimp, several hermits+ snails, 1 emerald.

looking to either get 1 jawfish or 2 fire gobys. which should I do?
While only one fire goby would work, there is no reason not to have one fire goby and a jawfish. The coral banded shrimp may be a problem long term.


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Just bought my first tank and doing a pile of research. Mine as well post in here to see what people think.

I plan on doing a reef and my tank is a 125gal 72" x 18" x 18", I'll be running a skimmer with liverock and still figuring out if I'll be adding a sump or not. Note: The tank isn't together yet, I'm building a stand and have to get my lights and such so it'll be awhile before I buy any fish. BUT the fish I would like to add eventually are (2) Black Ice clowns, (1) Cleaner wrasse (1) Foxface, (1) Blue Hippo Tang, and my all time favorite that I always wanted (1) Purple Tang. That'll be about is as far as fish. Is this tank size sufficient? I plan that the two tangs will be bought as juveniles, and at around the same time if not the same day.



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