A.Theillei ,anybody tried it? - Page 6

WDLV · 04/25/2012, 05:11 PM

Try some dewormer.

Clownfishfan · 04/25/2012, 08:12 PM

I have a medication called "quick cure" (ingredients malachite green and formalin) would that work(it says it works for parasites)?
If not I think I can get prazipro from my fish store if not.

velvetelvis · 04/25/2012, 10:05 PM

Don't know if this might help, but when trying to pair my very territorial female nigripes (who won't tolerate any other fish in her tank, except for--now--her new mate), I placed her in a breeder box that had a separate chamber with an airstone, and let her cool her heels in there for a few days. I placed the box low enough in the tank for her and the male to see each other and interact through the walls, but the female couldn't get to the male.

After 4 days with no aggression on the part of the female, I released her and watched them closely. She continued to harass the male periodically during the day (but much less than initially), and they slept together at night. The male also acted "bolder" around her and would only retreat a couple of inches, then return, rather than fleeing to the farthest corner of the tank. Since he wasn't looking tattered or stressed, I decided to let them proceed on their own and just monitor them closely.

I figured things were going well, but also that it would take a while for the female to truly accept the male and begin bonding with him. Actually, it only took a couple of days before they were not only sharing sleeping quarters, but hanging out together during the day. They spend almost all of their time together now. She still bites him every so often, and sometimes chases him back to wherever she apparently thinks he should be (often into the cave they share), and he's started doing the submission shake.

FWIW, they're both captive-bred (from Sustainable) and young. The female is about 2.5" long, and the male is about 1.25"-1.5" long. I think the size difference and the breeder box may have done the trick, because she rejected another nigripes, almost the same size as her, that I originally tried to pair her with (they actually came in as a pair, but she evidently had other ideas). It probably also helped that the female had never had a mate before.

WDLV · 04/26/2012, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clownfishfan

I have a medication called "quick cure" (ingredients malachite green and formalin) would that work(it says it works for parasites)?
If not I think I can get prazipro from my fish store if not.

Quick cure is for external paracites. I'd go with the Prazipro.

Clownfishfan · 04/26/2012, 12:30 PM

I'll try to get some in the next week if I can.

I'm wondering since the occy is not in the greatest shape and is sorta weak maybe thats the reason why they are still fighting(a lot of the fights are from the skunk)?

Thanks velvet if it doesn't stop after the treatment I will try it your way!

Clownfishfan · 04/30/2012, 09:51 AM

The clowns have been doing something really weird the past few days, they keep eating the caulerpa prolifera in my tank! They are eating it like tangs,I had a fair amount in there but today their really mowing it down ! Last week I had a banggai cardinal in there doing the same thing(it has since been moved). They're eating enough of it their stomachs are green,any idea why they are eating it?

WDLV · 04/30/2012, 09:57 AM

That's odd... but I wouldn't be concerned. They eat a lot of plant matter in nature. Do you feed emerald entree or anything like that? If not, it could explain it. Definately good to add algae to the diet.

Clownfishfan · 04/30/2012, 10:00 AM

No,but I could mix some algae into my homemade food next time. The cardinal really puzzles me considering they do usually just eat pods but if they like it I guess they can have it. Its not like I could stop them.....

WDLV · 04/30/2012, 10:07 AM

A little Nori from your local Asian grocery store goes a long way... but make sure you crush it BEFORE you add it to the blender or it can bind up the blade.

Clownfishfan · 04/30/2012, 10:10 AM

I can do that too,even though I will probably wait until I get a tang in a month before I get it.

Do you think they would benefit from nanochlororpsis in the food of just the nori and macro?

WDLV · 04/30/2012, 10:24 AM

Nano will just add to pollution unless it is a reef tank. BBS would be better as a small food item.

Clownfishfan · 04/30/2012, 10:37 AM

My bs cultures have been having issues lately,as soon as they're back to normal i am going to start feeding them that again too.
The dt they are going in is a reef and I already plan on adding phyto to it but I thought if by some small chance the fish would benefit from eating it directly I could add it to the mix also. Im with you though I think nori would be better than nano.

WDLV · 04/30/2012, 11:06 AM

;-)

Clownfishfan · 05/03/2012, 03:11 PM

I got noriand prazipro!
I will start treating as soon as I find a magnifying glass to read the instructions with....

Clownfishfan · 05/03/2012, 03:21 PM

Can I dose directly into the qt? I would assume so since it does not affect bio filtration, would it seap into the silicone like copper?

WDLV · 05/03/2012, 11:44 PM

I use 10 gallons for all my QT and broodstock now. I've seen how some meds stain the silicone and I'm told that copper can stay in the silicone. I would assume that any med used that doesn't evaporate like formalin would leave trace amounts in the silicone.

Clownfishfan · 05/04/2012, 10:00 AM

Ok thanks.

How do I know when they are cured? It says it usually takes a week but how do I know if I need to re-treat?

WDLV · 05/04/2012, 12:26 PM

DLR test.

Clownfishfan · 05/04/2012, 12:32 PM

???

WDLV · 05/04/2012, 12:35 PM

"Don't look right." - Wilkerson

Clownfishfan · 05/04/2012, 12:43 PM

Ahh..

Should I redose on day three?

WDLV · 05/04/2012, 12:54 PM

RTFM methinks. I don't know recommendations off the top of my head.

Clownfishfan · 05/04/2012, 01:00 PM

It says redose every 3-5 days so I think I will do it on day 4...

WDLV · 05/04/2012, 01:01 PM

Sounds reasonable.

Clownfishfan · 05/18/2012, 03:19 PM

I moved them to the 125g on Saturday and so far they really enjoy the tank! Or atleast the left side...they don't really go anywhere else....
I ordered them a rbta from a newish place called "my reef to yours" I hope it's good anyone have experience with them?
The clowns have REALLY mellowed out since being moved ,they do not attack each other at all(I hope it stays like this) and I've starting feeding them larger portions(and more).
Now my goal is to get a spawn by Christmas.

04/25/2012, 05:11 PM	#126
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Try some dewormer. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

04/25/2012, 10:05 PM	#128
velvetelvis Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 1,749	Don't know if this might help, but when trying to pair my very territorial female nigripes (who won't tolerate any other fish in her tank, except for--now--her new mate), I placed her in a breeder box that had a separate chamber with an airstone, and let her cool her heels in there for a few days. I placed the box low enough in the tank for her and the male to see each other and interact through the walls, but the female couldn't get to the male. After 4 days with no aggression on the part of the female, I released her and watched them closely. She continued to harass the male periodically during the day (but much less than initially), and they slept together at night. The male also acted "bolder" around her and would only retreat a couple of inches, then return, rather than fleeing to the farthest corner of the tank. Since he wasn't looking tattered or stressed, I decided to let them proceed on their own and just monitor them closely. I figured things were going well, but also that it would take a while for the female to truly accept the male and begin bonding with him. Actually, it only took a couple of days before they were not only sharing sleeping quarters, but hanging out together during the day. They spend almost all of their time together now. She still bites him every so often, and sometimes chases him back to wherever she apparently thinks he should be (often into the cave they share), and he's started doing the submission shake. FWIW, they're both captive-bred (from Sustainable) and young. The female is about 2.5" long, and the male is about 1.25"-1.5" long. I think the size difference and the breeder box may have done the trick, because she rejected another nigripes, almost the same size as her, that I originally tried to pair her with (they actually came in as a pair, but she evidently had other ideas). It probably also helped that the female had never had a mate before. __________________ The sea is as near as we come to another world. --Anne Stevenson Last edited by velvetelvis; 04/25/2012 at 10:10 PM.

04/30/2012, 09:57 AM	#132
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	That's odd... but I wouldn't be concerned. They eat a lot of plant matter in nature. Do you feed emerald entree or anything like that? If not, it could explain it. Definately good to add algae to the diet. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

04/30/2012, 10:07 AM	#134
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	A little Nori from your local Asian grocery store goes a long way... but make sure you crush it BEFORE you add it to the blender or it can bind up the blade. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

04/30/2012, 10:24 AM	#136
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Nano will just add to pollution unless it is a reef tank. BBS would be better as a small food item. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

04/25/2012, 08:12 PM	#127
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	I have a medication called "quick cure" (ingredients malachite green and formalin) would that work(it says it works for parasites)? If not I think I can get prazipro from my fish store if not.

04/26/2012, 12:30 PM	#130
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	I'll try to get some in the next week if I can. I'm wondering since the occy is not in the greatest shape and is sorta weak maybe thats the reason why they are still fighting(a lot of the fights are from the skunk)? Thanks velvet if it doesn't stop after the treatment I will try it your way!

04/30/2012, 09:51 AM	#131
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	The clowns have been doing something really weird the past few days, they keep eating the caulerpa prolifera in my tank! They are eating it like tangs,I had a fair amount in there but today their really mowing it down ! Last week I had a banggai cardinal in there doing the same thing(it has since been moved). They're eating enough of it their stomachs are green,any idea why they are eating it?

04/30/2012, 10:00 AM	#133
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	No,but I could mix some algae into my homemade food next time. The cardinal really puzzles me considering they do usually just eat pods but if they like it I guess they can have it. Its not like I could stop them.....

04/30/2012, 10:10 AM	#135
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	I can do that too,even though I will probably wait until I get a tang in a month before I get it. Do you think they would benefit from nanochlororpsis in the food of just the nori and macro?

04/30/2012, 10:37 AM	#137
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	My bs cultures have been having issues lately,as soon as they're back to normal i am going to start feeding them that again too. The dt they are going in is a reef and I already plan on adding phyto to it but I thought if by some small chance the fish would benefit from eating it directly I could add it to the mix also. Im with you though I think nori would be better than nano.

04/30/2012, 11:06 AM	#138
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	;-) __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/03/2012, 03:11 PM	#139
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	I got noriand prazipro! I will start treating as soon as I find a magnifying glass to read the instructions with....

05/03/2012, 03:21 PM	#140
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	Can I dose directly into the qt? I would assume so since it does not affect bio filtration, would it seap into the silicone like copper?

05/03/2012, 11:44 PM	#141
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	I use 10 gallons for all my QT and broodstock now. I've seen how some meds stain the silicone and I'm told that copper can stay in the silicone. I would assume that any med used that doesn't evaporate like formalin would leave trace amounts in the silicone. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/04/2012, 10:00 AM	#142
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	Ok thanks. How do I know when they are cured? It says it usually takes a week but how do I know if I need to re-treat?

05/04/2012, 12:26 PM	#143
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	DLR test. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/04/2012, 12:32 PM	#144
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	???

05/04/2012, 12:35 PM	#145
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	"Don't look right." - Wilkerson __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/04/2012, 12:43 PM	#146
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	Ahh.. Should I redose on day three?

05/04/2012, 12:54 PM	#147
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	RTFM methinks. I don't know recommendations off the top of my head. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/04/2012, 01:00 PM	#148
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	It says redose every 3-5 days so I think I will do it on day 4...

05/04/2012, 01:01 PM	#149
WDLV Skunk Hybrid Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pasadena, MD. USA Posts: 3,003	Sounds reasonable. __________________ - Walter D. LaRoque V "The tanks go or I go." - Ex Wife

05/18/2012, 03:19 PM	#150
Clownfishfan Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 256	I moved them to the 125g on Saturday and so far they really enjoy the tank! Or atleast the left side...they don't really go anywhere else.... I ordered them a rbta from a newish place called "my reef to yours" I hope it's good anyone have experience with them? The clowns have REALLY mellowed out since being moved ,they do not attack each other at all(I hope it stays like this) and I've starting feeding them larger portions(and more). Now my goal is to get a spawn by Christmas.