What rules of the hobby do you break? - Page 6

Guelphie · 06/02/2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by jnc914
Just a comment on the use of Windex. This can seep into the tank, but not through the glass, rather through the silicone seals. Even if it doesn't appear that there is a space where the corners of glass are sealed together, there is a minute space where the glass panes meet. Windex will still be able to seep into the silicone and eventually into your tank. As some one else mentioned, it shouldn't matter as a tank cycles ammonia, however this is concentrated ammonia and has the ability to wipe out a tank. when I started in the hobbie several years ago, I wiped out my 55 gallon when I decided to use windex. so if you are going to use Windex, stay away from the corners of the tank with it.

If the Windex can seep in, how come the water doesn't seep out? What you say doesn't make sense to me.

Jeremy Blaze · 06/02/2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally posted by Guelphie
If the Windex can seep in, how come the water doesn't seep out? What you say doesn't make sense to me.

Again, as said over and over, it is not true, can not happen, will not happen, no worries.

pk1 · 06/02/2006, 03:27 PM

I spend countless hours messing with the equipment on the tank.
I spend lots of money on the tank.
I do water changes instead of mowing the lawn and cleaning the gutters.
I wash filthy filter socks in the nice washing machine.
I make my own food in the blender.
I clean the skimmer cup in the bathroom sink.

oh wait....these are my wife's rules I break not RC reefing rules

PK

reefshadow · 06/02/2006, 04:58 PM

Lol, Pk. I AM the wife that breaks those rules.

As some folks mentioned, I don't use gloves, and often don't wash my hands before or after a fragging session or playing in the tank. (Only when I think "oh, i've been fragging palythoa")

I run a Berlin hob skimmer with a mag 7 and am very happy with it. It works great.

I don't quarantine everything. (but I would bet this is a rule that 98% of us break)

vadave · 06/02/2006, 07:08 PM

i have had a marine betta in my reef tank for five years. has not
bothered my shrimp or anything else.

Drakis · 06/02/2006, 07:40 PM

I spend more time on my tanks than with my wife.

I use tap water in my FO tank (its not to bad here).

I broke TONS the rules before I found RC ( due to the LFS).

E-A-G-L-E-S · 06/02/2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Randy Holmes-Farley
So what rules does Mr. Holmes-Farley break????

I cured a couple of hundred pounds of Tonga branch rock last year by adding it to my existing system.

ROFLMAO

reefnewbie54321 · 06/02/2006, 08:04 PM

My dads girlfriend had a 75g bowfront about 4 years ago and the stories she told me made me cringe

This was a FOWLR tank

Seahorses in a FOWLR that died every 2 months, she said they are just hard to keep even in a species tank and she would just replace them. She also used the dead bodies as decorations in a ocean themed bathroom

Stocklist on 75

PBTang

Hippo Tang

3 Yellow Tangs

Some type of trigger

Seahorses

6 Percula Clown fish

and something like 7 different blennies

Tried over 10 times to hatch nurse shark eggs in a 75g tank ... when I asked what she was gunna do if it did hatch she said leave it in the tank becuase they dont move much anyways they just sleep on the bottom.

Water changes were all tap water and so was initial tank will

And the worste of all ... when I asked her why she took the tank down she said "I was moving out of her moms house and didnt want to bother moving it,. those fish were tough as nails though ... I didnt want to bother donating the fish to a fish store and felt bad killing them so I just left the tank in my closet till the fish died. When I went back a month later they were still all alive so I emptied the tank and threw the fish in the tidepools at hampton beach"

Her best friend is a fish store owner in Lowel, MA and supplied her with all this "great" advice

Martin's Reef · 06/02/2006, 10:01 PM

I don't break any rules!

I would take up all the space on this server if I started to list all the rules I have broke!

Great thread!

Martin

McCrary · 06/02/2006, 11:13 PM

Keeping large angels in my 110 is probably the biggest rule I break, but its always worked so why stop.

affan · 06/02/2006, 11:16 PM

Oh, yeah. The Purple Tang was my first fish in the tank

melev · 06/02/2006, 11:27 PM

I was trying to think of what rules I've broken. I'm sure there are many, but the only one that stands out in my mind is the beautiful Maxima clam I had in my 29g for 2 years under 165w of PC lighting.

Jeremy Blaze · 06/03/2006, 06:55 AM

Guys, love the input, but I kinda meant what rules do you break, successfully! Not what dumb mistakes did you make before you knew any better.

pisces5296 · 06/03/2006, 08:19 AM

1)Dont Quarantine anything
2)Have sps and bta under pc lighting
3)Overfeeding
just over 3yrs, no problems here

sugartooth · 06/03/2006, 08:58 AM

- Constantly sticking my bare hands in the tank to re-scape. It just never seems just right...always a stray rock or coral that feels out of place.

- Forced my anemone to stay where I wanted it to by holding it down for 20 minutes. I didn't know any better at the time, and it worked! He stayed!

- Let my hair algae grow all over, BIG! Finally had the energy to tackle it one day and pulled it all out. Then I felt bad for all the little creatures that called algae "home". Now I let it grow within reason. I kinda like it, waving around. hahaa..

-Slammed a tank together in a day. I thought I could beat it by adding the detrivore kit from IPSF and copepods, amphipods, cured live rock, etc. taking a calculated risk that the biodiversity in the tank will soften the blow of a new tank. So far so good, it's been 3 months. (whew!)

Jeremy Blaze · 06/13/2006, 12:21 PM

anyone else?

RichConley · 06/13/2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by pisces5296
bta under pc lighting
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That shouldnt be a rule.. You can keep a bta in a bucket under a nightlight and it'll be fine. Theyre tanks.

I run a cheap skimmer

travisurfer · 06/13/2006, 01:14 PM

im about to ditch my skimmer
i currently have 8250k lighting
i have complete minimal lighting(1 x 65w over a 20H)
ok so maybe ill get that T5HO lighting.

Reefy · 06/13/2006, 01:15 PM

This hobby has "rules"??

Paul B · 06/13/2006, 01:28 PM

I don't break any rules I make new ones.
I use Clorox to treat NSW, I keep a moorish Idol that I mix Plaster of Paris with his food, I use a reverse UG filter, I use a lot of asphalt for live rock, I use NSW right from the Long Island Sound in NY, I add local fish, crabs, shrimp, worms and seaweed. I operate on fish to remove tumors and pop eye.
But besides that, nothing.
Paul

travisurfer · 06/13/2006, 01:31 PM

paul b, you are isane!!! haha. i bet you dont run a skimmer either

reverendmaynard · 06/13/2006, 01:31 PM

I got news for you Paul...

There's no way that tank will last very long! Certainly not more than 36 years!

Paul B · 06/13/2006, 02:19 PM

Travis, actually I built my skimmer many years ago.
reverndmaynard, if it starts to crash I will just add more asphalt for power

Oh I forgot, I used copper for about 5 years continousely before turning the tank into a reef and the last time I quarintined anything was in the eightees, thats also the last time I tested pH.
I test the calcium every year or so.

Paul

Newbees, don't do what I do or I guarantee you will lose all of your animals. Don't write me in the middle of the night that you added Clorox, copper and asphalt to your tank to cure popeye or some other ailment. Follow someone elses example but not mine. My tank is an experiment and some of my experiments did not go exactly as I planned. Thats why I still don't have my 18 year old cusk eel or my 10 year old hippo tang or my very old mandarin.

Mike.B · 06/13/2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by sugartooth
- Forced my anemone to stay where I wanted it to by holding it down for 20 minutes. I didn't know any better at the time, and it worked! He stayed!

Haha, I did that too and it also worked!

SERVO · 06/13/2006, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by melev
I was trying to think of what rules I've broken. I'm sure there are many, but the only one that stands out in my mind is the beautiful Maxima clam I had in my 29g for 2 years under 165w of PC lighting.

Come on Marc, why don't you tell everyone that you use Morton's salt to make up your water?

06/02/2006, 04:58 PM	#129
reefshadow Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Central Washington Posts: 1,786	Lol, Pk. I AM the wife that breaks those rules. As some folks mentioned, I don't use gloves, and often don't wash my hands before or after a fragging session or playing in the tank. (Only when I think "oh, i've been fragging palythoa") I run a Berlin hob skimmer with a mag 7 and am very happy with it. It works great. I don't quarantine everything. (but I would bet this is a rule that 98% of us break) __________________ All Your Coral Are Belong To Us Current Tank Info: 30 Deep Blue shallow mixed rimless, MP10, Ecoxotic LED's, SCA 301 skimmer.

06/02/2006, 11:13 PM	#135
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	Keeping large angels in my 110 is probably the biggest rule I break, but its always worked so why stop. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

06/03/2006, 06:55 AM	#138
Jeremy Blaze Former Reef Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Washington, IN Posts: 5,864	Guys, love the input, but I kinda meant what rules do you break, successfully! Not what dumb mistakes did you make before you knew any better. __________________ Trust me my friend, the names are not important at all. I've own hundreds of different zoas and palys and don't know the name of a single one. In my opinion, they are a waste of valuable time. Mucho Reef

06/13/2006, 12:21 PM	#141
Jeremy Blaze Former Reef Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Washington, IN Posts: 5,864	anyone else? __________________ Trust me my friend, the names are not important at all. I've own hundreds of different zoas and palys and don't know the name of a single one. In my opinion, they are a waste of valuable time. Mucho Reef

06/13/2006, 01:14 PM	#143
travisurfer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Unknown Posts: 814	im about to ditch my skimmer i currently have 8250k lighting i have complete minimal lighting(1 x 65w over a 20H) ok so maybe ill get that T5HO lighting. __________________ Travis Current Tank Info: 20H

06/02/2006, 03:27 PM	#128
pk1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Lombard, IL Posts: 1,116	I spend countless hours messing with the equipment on the tank. I spend lots of money on the tank. I do water changes instead of mowing the lawn and cleaning the gutters. I wash filthy filter socks in the nice washing machine. I make my own food in the blender. I clean the skimmer cup in the bathroom sink. oh wait....these are my wife's rules I break not RC reefing rules PK

06/02/2006, 07:08 PM	#130
vadave Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: va Posts: 7	i have had a marine betta in my reef tank for five years. has not bothered my shrimp or anything else.

06/02/2006, 07:40 PM	#131
Drakis Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, WA (the Couve) Posts: 241	I spend more time on my tanks than with my wife. I use tap water in my FO tank (its not to bad here). I broke TONS the rules before I found RC ( due to the LFS).

06/02/2006, 08:04 PM	#133
reefnewbie54321 Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 1,263	My dads girlfriend had a 75g bowfront about 4 years ago and the stories she told me made me cringe This was a FOWLR tank Seahorses in a FOWLR that died every 2 months, she said they are just hard to keep even in a species tank and she would just replace them. She also used the dead bodies as decorations in a ocean themed bathroom Stocklist on 75 PBTang Hippo Tang 3 Yellow Tangs Some type of trigger Seahorses 6 Percula Clown fish and something like 7 different blennies Tried over 10 times to hatch nurse shark eggs in a 75g tank ... when I asked what she was gunna do if it did hatch she said leave it in the tank becuase they dont move much anyways they just sleep on the bottom. Water changes were all tap water and so was initial tank will And the worste of all ... when I asked her why she took the tank down she said "I was moving out of her moms house and didnt want to bother moving it,. those fish were tough as nails though ... I didnt want to bother donating the fish to a fish store and felt bad killing them so I just left the tank in my closet till the fish died. When I went back a month later they were still all alive so I emptied the tank and threw the fish in the tidepools at hampton beach" Her best friend is a fish store owner in Lowel, MA and supplied her with all this "great" advice

06/02/2006, 10:01 PM	#134
Martin's Reef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brighton, Colorado Posts: 531	I don't break any rules! I would take up all the space on this server if I started to list all the rules I have broke! Great thread! Martin

06/02/2006, 11:16 PM	#136
affan Moved On Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: From NYC, currently serving time in Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 1,125	Oh, yeah. The Purple Tang was my first fish in the tank

06/02/2006, 11:27 PM	#137
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I was trying to think of what rules I've broken. I'm sure there are many, but the only one that stands out in my mind is the beautiful Maxima clam I had in my 29g for 2 years under 165w of PC lighting.

06/03/2006, 08:19 AM	#139
pisces5296 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: mass Posts: 95	1)Dont Quarantine anything 2)Have sps and bta under pc lighting 3)Overfeeding just over 3yrs, no problems here

06/03/2006, 08:58 AM	#140
sugartooth Reef bully Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: IL Posts: 2,832	- Constantly sticking my bare hands in the tank to re-scape. It just never seems just right...always a stray rock or coral that feels out of place. - Forced my anemone to stay where I wanted it to by holding it down for 20 minutes. I didn't know any better at the time, and it worked! He stayed! - Let my hair algae grow all over, BIG! Finally had the energy to tackle it one day and pulled it all out. Then I felt bad for all the little creatures that called algae "home". Now I let it grow within reason. I kinda like it, waving around. hahaa.. -Slammed a tank together in a day. I thought I could beat it by adding the detrivore kit from IPSF and copepods, amphipods, cured live rock, etc. taking a calculated risk that the biodiversity in the tank will soften the blow of a new tank. So far so good, it's been 3 months. (whew!)

06/13/2006, 01:15 PM	#144
Reefy Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 157	This hobby has "rules"??

06/13/2006, 01:28 PM	#145
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	I don't break any rules I make new ones. I use Clorox to treat NSW, I keep a moorish Idol that I mix Plaster of Paris with his food, I use a reverse UG filter, I use a lot of asphalt for live rock, I use NSW right from the Long Island Sound in NY, I add local fish, crabs, shrimp, worms and seaweed. I operate on fish to remove tumors and pop eye. But besides that, nothing. Paul __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

06/13/2006, 01:31 PM	#146
travisurfer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Unknown Posts: 814	paul b, you are isane!!! haha. i bet you dont run a skimmer either __________________ Travis Current Tank Info: 20H

06/13/2006, 01:31 PM	#147
reverendmaynard Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: RI Posts: 1,490	I got news for you Paul... There's no way that tank will last very long! Certainly not more than 36 years! __________________ Think for yourself. Question authority. Current Tank Info: 125 gal AGA, setup on 1/1/06; 29 gal seahorse tank, setup 10/21/06

06/13/2006, 02:19 PM	#148
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Travis, actually I built my skimmer many years ago. reverndmaynard, if it starts to crash I will just add more asphalt for power Oh I forgot, I used copper for about 5 years continousely before turning the tank into a reef and the last time I quarintined anything was in the eightees, thats also the last time I tested pH. I test the calcium every year or so. Paul Newbees, don't do what I do or I guarantee you will lose all of your animals. Don't write me in the middle of the night that you added Clorox, copper and asphalt to your tank to cure popeye or some other ailment. Follow someone elses example but not mine. My tank is an experiment and some of my experiments did not go exactly as I planned. Thats why I still don't have my 18 year old cusk eel or my 10 year old hippo tang or my very old mandarin. Last edited by Paul B; 06/13/2006 at 02:33 PM.