Chinese LED Lights

[Ron Reefman]

Originally Posted by bhazard451

Red Sea Max 130D is only 24" deep, maybe less. I just upgraded from it to a 125 gallon. 90 degree optics work best on it.

As far as resistance dimming, it means no controller PWM or 0-10v Analog will dim those drivers other than the one included with the IT2040.

bhazard, I was wrong about the depth on the tank. I was reading the cabinet specs. My bad. Here are the dimentions:
•Total system volume: 130 liter/34 gallons (29 gallons aquarium volume, 5 gallon filter volume)
•Length 24" X Width 19.7" X Height 19.7"

[overkill1125]

I emailed reefbreeders 3 times and I have not received any replies whatesoever.
Anywhere else I can aquire the IT LED fixtures?

[Kurt03]

Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

Kurt,

When I started the process of buying leds for my 6' long 180g mixed reef, I was going to get 4 D120's. But after seeing the IT2080 I changed my mind. The 2 primary things that sold me (and there were way more than 2) were going from 8 power cords to only 2 power cords. And having the auto on/off timmer dimmer. At our group prices, 4 of the D120's would have cost $560 delivered, and 2 of the IT2080 cost $660 delivered. For a hundred bucks more it seemed like a great deal. BTW 4 of the IT2040's would have cost $960, at that price I'd have gone without the controllers. 2 of them at $100 is OK, 4 controlers at $400 over the D120 cost is out of line in my opinion.

how tall is your 180? My concern is that my tank is 30" tall I want to make sure two IT2080's is enough for a sps dominant 30" tall tank?

[rjallen]

OK I am going to try here as I had no luck with a reply in the main equipment section so I will try here. I cannot believe no one has and heard or has experience with this company and its products.

OK, I admit I haven't read all LED Light threads on RC, but I did try a search for this company's name with no results. Tried to use quote marks around the name and all I got was references to "reef". I apologize in advance if this company/ light was been discussed as I cannot imagine it has not.

O. C. Reef of Dana Point, California [Orange County] has a website that shows several models of lights. They are apparently a LFS that imports sub assemblies from China. They claim their lights are assembled in the US. Their Tesla line has some good features [CREE LEDs, programable, full spectrum]
and prices/ warranties seem decent. The website seems to be a little disorganized but their products seem to have potential.
This is a link to the light I am interested in.
http://www.ocreef.com/tesla_svelte_l...inch_108_watts.
Anybody have any experience with this product or company?
Rick

[nikesb]

Finally got a tracking number for my it2040. Took longer than was told, hoping its worth it

[nikesb]

bhaz, when you took your par measurements what percentage were you on and at what height above your tank did you have the fixture? also how deep is your tank

[bhazard451]

Originally Posted by nikesb

bhaz, when you took your par measurements what percentage were you on and at what height above your tank did you have the fixture? also how deep is your tank

100% each channel. 8 to 10" above the waterline, 20" deep. They did very well, and easily equal and even beat most commercial fixtures in PAR.

The only downside to these lights, is that the royal blues are a lot weaker than Cree or Luxeon Royal Blues. Use at least a 2:1 ratio of blue to white.

[Steel_Phoenix]

Reefbreeders seems to be having issues. I was also getting no response via email, but I just noticed they have a message on their contact page saying their email is down and to leave them a message in their contact form with your phone number. I also finally got a shipping confirmation from them, so apparently it is just a communication issue.

[dviper150]

Can you guys help me out with my layout please? I am ordering the IT2080 fixture from EG and this is custom layout I came up with. Should I add or remove something? I am going for good growth and color pop somewhere in between the 15-16k look.

[nikesb]

You dont need that many greens imo. 2 should be just fine, replace the other two greens with 480nm.

What are the other blues labeled as b?

As far as the 16ks go, i would rather use 450nm in place of it if ur going for the 15k look. Bhaz sated that the reefbreeder whites are very strong. At least a 2:1 ratio of boue:white should be ok. I went for 2.5:1 in my set up

[dviper150]

Originally Posted by nikesb

You dont need that many greens imo. 2 should be just fine, replace the other two greens with 480nm.

What are the other blues labeled as b?

As far as the 16ks go, i would rather use 450nm in place of it if ur going for the 15k look. Bhaz sated that the reefbreeder whites are very strong. At least a 2:1 ratio of boue:white should be ok. I went for 2.5:1 in my set up

The "B" in the fixture are the royal blue. what color is 480nm? Besides replacing the 16k with 450nm, everything else is okay? Will I still get good color pop and growth?

[nikesb]

480 is cyan. The color temp will also be determined by the percentages you run each hannel.

[Ron Reefman]

Originally Posted by Kurt03

how tall is your 180? My concern is that my tank is 30" tall I want to make sure two IT2080's is enough for a sps dominant 30" tall tank?

My 180g is only 24" deep. I have an old D120 (3:2 blue to white and no dimmers, no lenses) on my 75g (also 24" deep) anemone tank and I'm getting 250-300 PAR at 22". That should grow most anything.

A friend of mine has a 220g (30" deep) and he has even older style D120 with much lower PAR values and his sps & lps near the bottom seem to be doing just fine. He ordered 2 of the IT2080's as well. But he plans to keep an older D120 (all b&w w/dimmers) and hang it behind the IT2080 in the center of the tank.

Our lights are estimated to ship on Dec 20th. I'll post pics as soon as the shipment arrives.

[Sweatervest13]

Originally Posted by Steel_Phoenix

Reefbreeders seems to be having issues. I was also getting no response via email, but I just noticed they have a message on their contact page saying their email is down and to leave them a message in their contact form with your phone number. I also finally got a shipping confirmation from them, so apparently it is just a communication issue.

Must be. I have been emailing back and forth with a Logan there in the past couple of days. But I started the email chain using their contact page from their website. The replies were not the quickest but with in 24 hrs he would answer my questions.

[Ron Reefman]

Originally Posted by Steel_Phoenix

Reefbreeders seems to be having issues. I was also getting no response via email, but I just noticed they have a message on their contact page saying their email is down and to leave them a message in their contact form with your phone number. I also finally got a shipping confirmation from them, so apparently it is just a communication issue.

And for comparision sake I can say that Helen at EverGrow never took more than 24 hours to get back to me. They are 13 hours ahead of us on the East Coast, so they are up and working while we sleep. Emails that I would send late at night or even early in the morning would get answers within an hour or two. Even now that they have our order and our money, they reply to emails just as quickly. I hate to say it, but there are US companies that can now learn a lesson from how the Chinese companies do some of their marketing and customer service. What a change from just a couple of years ago!

[albano]

Originally Posted by nikesb

You dont need that many greens imo. 2 should be just fine, replace the other two greens with 480nm.

Not an expert, but since the 2080 is twice the lights/size of the smaller units, I would think 3-4 greens would be the correct #

[Zedar]

Has anyone had any problems with the the Evergrow fixtures?
I came home yesterday to a tank missing the blue side of the fixture. Probably lost the Driver. I bought these in June.

[dviper150]

Here is the new layout after some changes. what do you guys think? better then before? Should I still change out any bulbs. again, going for color pop, growth, and a 16k look. Thanks for all the help!

[TheReefKeeper]

Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

I hate to say it, but there are US companies that can now learn a lesson from how the Chinese companies do some of their marketing and customer service. What a change from just a couple of years ago!

+1^ I run an online business and MFG in China. The nightly emails and early morning emails have been a thing of my life for the past 4 years. They do have a great work ethic and honesty I can see what you are talking about!! I have contacted a few Reef companies about some products recently after a brief break from things and lets be honest I'm not really too sure how they are even in business!!! If I ran my website this way it would be all over the forums in 24hrs in my industry. I'm actually thinking about importing some reef goods just because these companies are so laxy-dazy with the way they work I would do extremely well LMAO!!!

Customers need answers, Customers are always right and customers don't deserve to be put off because they say they are busy right now what a joke this is Reef Keeping not brain surgery!!! It's actually kinda funny how lazy these Distributers have gotten on this forum not like years ago!! China wants your business and their works hours show for it!! See you noticed this is why other countries call Americans lazy and flashy everyone wants the glitz and glamor and don't want to work for it IMO.

[Ron Reefman]

Originally Posted by Zedar

Has anyone had any problems with the the Evergrow fixtures?
I came home yesterday to a tank missing the blue side of the fixture. Probably lost the Driver. I bought these in June.

I think in this thread there have been a few people who have had 'issues' with EG products and it seems that EG has been pretty responsive. I haven't seen anybody ripping them for not getting customer service done after the sale. They reply to emails and they provide phone numbers. I haven't tried calling (I came close at one point) because I have no idea how expensive the call would be. My only issue with EG was figuring out how to pay them. I was very reluctant to sending a Western Union Money Transfer to Ping Li in China. The more expensive T/T money transfer (not even sure what T/T is) goes to the bank that EG deals with in China. I bit the bullet and sent the WU transfer and EG got it and is working on our lights. Now I have to wait until they are done (24 fixtures) which is estimated to be 12/20 and shipped which is 3-5 days. I'll even give shipping some extra time as this is a busy season here (not so much in China). .

[Zedar]

Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

I think in this thread there have been a few people who have had 'issues' with EG products and it seems that EG has been pretty responsive. I haven't seen anybody ripping them for not getting customer service done after the sale. They reply to emails and they provide phone numbers. I haven't tried calling (I came close at one point) because I have no idea how expensive the call would be. My only issue with EG was figuring out how to pay them. I was very reluctant to sending a Western Union Money Transfer to Ping Li in China. The more expensive T/T money transfer (not even sure what T/T is) goes to the bank that EG deals with in China. I bit the bullet and sent the WU transfer and EG got it and is working on our lights. Now I have to wait until they are done (24 fixtures) which is estimated to be 12/20 and shipped which is 3-5 days. I'll even give shipping some extra time as this is a busy season here (not so much in China). .

Ron,

Thanks for the response. Ill contact them via email and see how they handle this.

[ssminnow81]

What's a good light for only zoas, shrooms , and lps for a 24x24x12 tank?

[ssminnow81]

Trying to stay on the cheaper side

[bhazard451]

Originally Posted by nikesb

480 is cyan. The color temp will also be determined by the percentages you run each hannel.

480 is still blue. 490nm starts cyan. The 480nm leds offered are not really cyan.

[bhazard451]

Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

I think in this thread there have been a few people who have had 'issues' with EG products and it seems that EG has been pretty responsive. I haven't seen anybody ripping them for not getting customer service done after the sale. They reply to emails and they provide phone numbers. I haven't tried calling (I came close at one point) because I have no idea how expensive the call would be. My only issue with EG was figuring out how to pay them. I was very reluctant to sending a Western Union Money Transfer to Ping Li in China. The more expensive T/T money transfer (not even sure what T/T is) goes to the bank that EG deals with in China. I bit the bullet and sent the WU transfer and EG got it and is working on our lights. Now I have to wait until they are done (24 fixtures) which is estimated to be 12/20 and shipped which is 3-5 days. I'll even give shipping some extra time as this is a busy season here (not so much in China). .

They accept paypal, which would be much safer to use.