Kessil Club

[sixpackgarage]

Originally Posted by jtgrimes

Would keeping the kessil 360 at 5% intensity & color resemble actinic? Im just wanting to extend my reef light time just so I can enjoy it more, without it being to much on the tank itself with a higher intensity etc.

It probably won't run at 5% intensity. The 360 lights get a little sketchy below 9-10%

[jtgrimes]

Ha! Just sent you a pm. Thinking about it, it cuts off at 14% intensity. Oh well, I may just stay at 12 or add 30 more minutes.

Originally Posted by sixpackgarage

It probably won't run at 5% intensity. The 360 lights get a little sketchy below 9-10%

[kevin32]

Kessil being discountinued?

http://www.marinedepot.com/Kessil_A3...H33747-vi.html

[uwdanno]

I don't see anything in that link that references discontinued

[Scorpius]

Originally Posted by kevin32

Kessil being discountinued?

http://www.marinedepot.com/Kessil_A3...H33747-vi.html

Originally Posted by uwdanno

I don't see anything in that link that references discontinued

The original W series, not the WE or NE.

[malawinovice]

Originally Posted by Mr. Comer

I just ordered an aquatic life 2x48" w fixture and am switching out the bulbs with a coral plus and a blue plus to supplement my pair of a350w's. From all the reading i've been doing this seems like the most commonly used t5's to supplement kessils.

How did the t5 supplement go?
Was a pair enough?

It was thinking of going with just a 36 inch fixture.
Had tek t5 5 bulb 48" initial and it was a pain to handle that. Are Ati easier?
Want two bulb aquatic life unit bu worried about quality?

Thoughts?

[kevin32]

I have a STandard 100gallon tank. I believe it's 60" x 18" x 24 ".

Would

2x 360We
1x 360Ne

+

2 T5 bulbs for supplement.


Mostly into LPS, Zoas, BTA. Maybe some easily SPS like Millie and stuff, nothing fancy.


So what you guys think? That enough light?

[dh350twin]

Originally Posted by kevin32

I have a STandard 100gallon tank. I believe it's 60" x 18" x 24 ".

Would

2x 360We
1x 360Ne

+

2 T5 bulbs for supplement.


Mostly into LPS, Zoas, BTA. Maybe some easily SPS like Millie and stuff, nothing fancy.


So what you guys think? That enough light?

I would say yes

[janci]

SPS growth review:
Has anybody good SPS growth with the Kessils A360?
I can not find a direct link with confirmed good results so maybe here on the forum somebody has?

I have one A360WE and see that SPS do grow, but because there is only one point of light, half of the SPS dies, the other half continues.
So the only way I can grow them, is to have them straight under the fixture... which is not very convenient.

Any experience?

[ca1ore]

These are point source lights with small reflectors, so coverage is going to be problematic. I've ended up with 3 360WE and 3 160WE over my 7' 265 to get good light to all parts of the tank (probably will add a fourth 160WE at some point).

FWIW, very little light spill into the room.

[rappyfly]

I use 6 360we on 60x30 footprint tank + 2 250w metal hailde light. SPS do grow, but some SPS grow better/color with hailde Light. I use above combo about two years now.

[dh350twin]

Originally Posted by rappyfly

I use 6 360we on 60x30 footprint tank + 2 250w metal hailde light. SPS do grow, but some SPS grow better/color with hailde Light. I use above combo about two years now.

Very nice. Would love to see the lights?

[janci]

[QUOTE=rappyfly;24327417]I use 6 360we on 60x30 footprint tank + 2 250w metal hailde light. SPS do grow, but some SPS grow better/color with hailde Light. I use above combo about two years now.

Very nice. Wondering if the MH are not the ones that should receive the credit for the coral growth.
Would love to see how you have put all those lights above the tank.

[dh350twin]

[QUOTE=janci;24327479]

Originally Posted by rappyfly

I use 6 360we on 60x30 footprint tank + 2 250w metal hailde light. SPS do grow, but some SPS grow better/color with hailde Light. I use above combo about two years now.



Very nice. Wondering if the MH are not the ones that should receive the credit for the coral growth.

Would love to see how you have put all those lights above the tank.

My thoughts exactly.

[rappyfly]

Here is light setup with additional pic of the coral.

[Herbie]

This is making a lot of sense for me now .........
I have always had great growth and color when using Kessils with most ANY coral type except the SPS Acro's . Same problem as everyone else . Colors always faded away on the shaded side of the Kessil lighting point source. Have had great results with all types of Montipora SPS though ..........now it makes sense.

I wonder if Kessil's would work much better if they were mounted on light movers when used for SPS Acro growth ? Like 2 360we , mounted on Light movers , running on opposite movement patterns, so the tank always has the nice lighted look .

Hmmm, something to consider for larger tanks.

My tank now is predominantly an LPS tank with Zoas spread around. But I am having great results with the only SPS corals in the tank ..........monitipora's ! Its all making sense now !

I dont think its actually the Kessil lighting spectrum thats the problem with some SPS , but its the effect of the point source of a Kessil that is the problem. Thats why plating Montipora style SPS do just fine under Kessil lighting, where as Acropora struggles .

BTW ...........LPS have always been incredible under Kessil lighting for me .

[voooooo]

Originally Posted by rappyfly

Here is light setup with additional pic of the coral.

Very nice. Would you mind sharing your lighting schedule? Also what intensity and colors are you running? I have 4 360wes in the center and supplementing with 4 80watts t5 and seem to either burn acros or brown them. Kessils are mounted only 5 inches above water line due to hood. Thx in advance

[PatrikD]

I'm using a light mover since June 2015.
I have only four Acros. Results are I feel quite good. I bought 5 Acros at that time. One I bleached despite slow acclimation.The other four have encrusted well and three have grown from well to ok. The one that didn't grow well has just now started to encrust properly. I have treated that coral badly by moving it around and not glued it i place. We will see if it likes Kessils later on.

Edit: I must add that I have no previous experience with Acros and I'm not sure I can judge growth and color development.

[dh350twin]

Originally Posted by rappyfly

Here is light setup with additional pic of the coral.

Looks good and I'm pretty sure the halides are the supplements not the Kessils

[escape10]

So I just set up my tank and it's cycled, ready for me to add corals. I have two 360's, and a controller. I want the lights to come on in the morning, around 10 AM, and stay on until 10 PM, so that if I have people over it still looks nice.

I believe more people fry their corals from their Kessils being too bright than not bright enough. So any recommendations as to what percentage I should start at, peak at, then diminish to before shut off, if I leave them on 12 hours? Most of my corals will be soft corals, but I would like to have a few hard corals at the top of the tank as well. Any advise appreciated.

[escape10]

Originally Posted by Tcook

Thanks! The tank has been running for a little over a year and the Kessils have been online for 10 months. I run 4 Kessil a360we over my 120 gal (4x2x2). The photoperiod is 10 hours. Color ramps from 10% to 15% over 2 hours and runs like that most of the day with a 2 hour ramp down. I have a 2 hour "viewing" period where the color ramps up to 30%. Intensity ramps up from 10-75% over 2.5 hours and ramps down at the end over 2.5 hours. I started with the intensity around 40% and slowly increased this over months. My LFS also uses the same (a350) lights.

So I am trying to set mine up similarly, over a 12 hour period, from 10AM to 10 PM. After reading your post, if I understand you right and tried something similar for 12 hours, it would look like this?
10AM-noon 10% color 10% intensity
Noon-6 color 15% intensity 75%
6-8 PM color 30% intensity 75%
8-10 color 10% intensity 10%

Thoughts? My tank is brand new, just cycled, and I will be starting with soft corals next week. Over time I want probably just 2 hard corals at the very top. But mostly I will have fish and soft corals.

[Herbie]

Originally Posted by escape10

So I am trying to set mine up similarly, over a 12 hour period, from 10AM to 10 PM. After reading your post, if I understand you right and tried something similar for 12 hours, it would look like this?
10AM-noon 10% color 10% intensity
Noon-6 color 15% intensity 75%
6-8 PM color 30% intensity 75%
8-10 color 10% intensity 10%

Thoughts? My tank is brand new, just cycled, and I will be starting with soft corals next week. Over time I want probably just 2 hard corals at the very top. But mostly I will have fish and soft corals.

Way too much intensity too soon .
You will have diatoms and algae growth soon because its so new. Dont encourage it with that high of intensity. Dont mistake how bright the light looks to your eyes , to how bright it actually is intensity wise to the tank . Those Kessil 360's are really intense .

I would start at 30-40 % intensity max . Then ramp it up very slowly if needed. Watch how the corals respond to the lighting .........you may never have to go over 50% .

herbie

[reef4life07]

Originally Posted by mxett

I've got a single kessil A360WE over my shallow 2foot nano. Corals are SPS mainly with a few softies. Tank runs with no sump or skimmer, just a reactor running activated carbon, and occasionally rowaphos, and regular water changes. Tank has been running for about 3-4 months. Coral colors are ok but improving as I'm finally beginning to register a little nitrate. I think my nutrients were too low to start with as my sps lost colour at first but are now improving and growing. Love the kessil to pieces

[reef4life07]

Looks great.....

[jayblock]

Can u a360we tuna blue owners tell me what color and intensity you use when taking photos