Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product - Page 61

TheFishMan65 · 09/14/2011, 10:51 AM

I have some generic bio pellets, but this seems a good a place any for my question.

I went on vacation (now I know why to get a good tank sitter), and the sump went dry. I think I had a reasonable amount of bio pellets. Anyway the skimmer section still had water. A MJ1200 pulls water from the simmer section into the pellet reactor and back to the skimmer (NAC7) intake. I estimate that there was no new water being added to the skimmer section for 3-4 days. I would have expected that the pellets would have scrubbed that water clean of N and P and maybe the bacteria would die back. Instead it appears that the pellets almost disappeared. They seem to have been eaten at a much faster rate than normal. Any thoughts?

kendo · 10/03/2011, 09:57 AM

Hi, i'm sure this question has been asked before, I have been running the ecobak pellets for about a year now, and have topped off once but here recently they have been clumping up, barley moving but still have flow. Is this ok or should I try and get them tumbling again.
Thanks, Ken

Buganddoug · 10/03/2011, 03:13 PM

Get them tumbling again.

reefkeeps · 10/30/2011, 06:18 AM

Anyone still using it? 28 days without a post?

mbg75 · 09/23/2013, 10:18 AM

Just read this entire thread. Any updates from
Long term ecobak users?

Buganddoug · 09/23/2013, 02:48 PM

I still think they are the best pellets out there.

orientalexpress · 09/23/2013, 03:01 PM

I ran for 2 plus year and still running at 0 nitrate.

lapsan

Safedad · 09/23/2013, 07:44 PM

My guess is the pellets provided the only food for the bacteria. The bacteria didn't also have food in the water from the tank. When the right balance of N and P was gone, they really slowed their eating down.

spsfreak1977 · 11/10/2013, 01:29 PM

Mine are on order thanks for the great info

spsfreak1977 · 12/04/2013, 12:39 PM

If I am running a recirc bio pellet skimmer

With a set flow rate into the reactors

Does the tumble rate matter ?

bertoni · 12/04/2013, 02:45 PM

The reason to keep the pellets tumbling is to prevent them from sticking together and creating a large anoxic or low-oxygen area. I'd keep them tumbling in any case, although I'm not sure what kind of setup you have.

spsfreak1977 · 12/04/2013, 02:48 PM

Yes I understand but does the tumble rate matter if i am still putting 100-300 gph throught the reactor

spsfreak1977 · 12/04/2013, 02:50 PM

Going to use a rec reactor and going to pump 100-300 gph into the reactor
So does the tumbling on the pellets matter
They are not going to be tumbling slow

AugustWest · 12/04/2013, 04:07 PM

I'm no expert as I have just started running these pellets myself, but Jon Warner specifically states to start off with a slow tumble.

Tumbling too fast is how a lot of people have run into problems.

alan.reef · 01/10/2014, 12:50 PM

reading all pages. wanna learn more about bio pellet before try it.
any bio pellet user can chime in.

Buganddoug · 01/11/2014, 12:44 PM

Start with the third the first week add a third the following week. The last third on week three. Tumble very very slow.

milkman55 · 01/12/2014, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buganddoug

Start with the third the first week add a third the following week. The last third on week three. Tumble very very slow.

Very good advice. Adding all the pellets at once is a sure way to disaster. I started the EcoBak pellets when they first came out before we knew much about how to use them. I added all the pellets at once and had a terrible bacterial bloom outbreak. Start slow and gradually ramp up, like everything with reefkeeping.

09/14/2011, 10:51 AM	#1501
TheFishMan65 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,618	I have some generic bio pellets, but this seems a good a place any for my question. I went on vacation (now I know why to get a good tank sitter), and the sump went dry. I think I had a reasonable amount of bio pellets. Anyway the skimmer section still had water. A MJ1200 pulls water from the simmer section into the pellet reactor and back to the skimmer (NAC7) intake. I estimate that there was no new water being added to the skimmer section for 3-4 days. I would have expected that the pellets would have scrubbed that water clean of N and P and maybe the bacteria would die back. Instead it appears that the pellets almost disappeared. They seem to have been eaten at a much faster rate than normal. Any thoughts? __________________ Click my home page for Thread Summaries Current Tank Info: 75 gallon lps and fish

10/03/2011, 03:13 PM	#1503
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	Get them tumbling again. __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

10/30/2011, 06:18 AM	#1504
reefkeeps Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpharetta Ga Posts: 1,093	Anyone still using it? 28 days without a post? __________________ What I do, I do very well, and what I don't do well, I don't do at all. Current Tank Info: 150 REEF

09/23/2013, 10:18 AM	#1505
mbg75 Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Long Island Posts: 380	Just read this entire thread. Any updates from Long term ecobak users? __________________ 75 RIMLESS

09/23/2013, 02:48 PM	#1506
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	I still think they are the best pellets out there. __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

10/03/2011, 09:57 AM	#1502
kendo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Enterprise,Alabama Posts: 335	Hi, i'm sure this question has been asked before, I have been running the ecobak pellets for about a year now, and have topped off once but here recently they have been clumping up, barley moving but still have flow. Is this ok or should I try and get them tumbling again. Thanks, Ken

09/23/2013, 03:01 PM	#1507
orientalexpress Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San francisco Posts: 1,785	I ran for 2 plus year and still running at 0 nitrate. lapsan __________________ You can say something to popes, kings and presidents, but you can't talk to officials. In the next war they ought to give everyone a whistle Current Tank Info: 72x36x30

09/23/2013, 07:44 PM	#1508
Safedad Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 209	My guess is the pellets provided the only food for the bacteria. The bacteria didn't also have food in the water from the tank. When the right balance of N and P was gone, they really slowed their eating down. __________________ safedad Current Tank Info: 12/08 90 gal, ASM G3, Seachill chiller, Quiet 1 6000 (OL), 60 lb LR, 1 serpent star, mated 2 perc w/ carpet, Regal tang 3", paired gold stripe and reg Maroon clown 3", Moorish Idol, Neon dottyback, acan, maxima 3", monti cap/digi, zoos

11/10/2013, 01:29 PM	#1509
spsfreak1977 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 345	Mine are on order thanks for the great info

12/04/2013, 12:39 PM	#1510
spsfreak1977 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 345	If I am running a recirc bio pellet skimmer With a set flow rate into the reactors Does the tumble rate matter ?

12/04/2013, 02:45 PM	#1511
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	The reason to keep the pellets tumbling is to prevent them from sticking together and creating a large anoxic or low-oxygen area. I'd keep them tumbling in any case, although I'm not sure what kind of setup you have. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

12/04/2013, 02:48 PM	#1512
spsfreak1977 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 345	Yes I understand but does the tumble rate matter if i am still putting 100-300 gph throught the reactor

12/04/2013, 02:50 PM	#1513
spsfreak1977 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 345	Going to use a rec reactor and going to pump 100-300 gph into the reactor So does the tumbling on the pellets matter They are not going to be tumbling slow

12/04/2013, 04:07 PM	#1514
AugustWest Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 765 Blog Entries: 1	I'm no expert as I have just started running these pellets myself, but Jon Warner specifically states to start off with a slow tumble. Tumbling too fast is how a lot of people have run into problems.

01/10/2014, 12:50 PM	#1515
alan.reef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: new york Posts: 114	reading all pages. wanna learn more about bio pellet before try it. any bio pellet user can chime in.

01/11/2014, 12:44 PM	#1516
Buganddoug X NJRC Vice President Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Eastampton NJ Posts: 1,068	Start with the third the first week add a third the following week. The last third on week three. Tumble very very slow. __________________ Daniel NJRC X Vice President Nj Reefers Club Current Tank Info: 220 Gallon Heavily stock tank Reef and Fish. 100 gallon sump, ATI Power cone IS Protein skimmer, Warner Warine MR100. 4 AI Hydra 52 HD LEDS running Warner Marine EcoBAK bio pellets,Warner Marine additives

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