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Unread 08/13/2015, 07:35 AM   #15601
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Hey! here's my planned setup for my Nuvo 10g. It is cycled but currently doesn't have inhabitants.

Zoas
Mushrooms
10 blue legs hermit crabs
2 turbo snails
1 porcelain crab
Pearly jawfish (with accommodating pile of crushed coral aragonite mix and a cave in my rock
Green mandarin dragonet (I have a food supply)


If all of this goes really really well for a few months, I was hoping to expand to some other soft corals and a fire fish goby with appropriate hidey holes and rocks near the top of the aquarium.

What do you think?


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Unread 08/13/2015, 07:38 AM   #15602
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Hey! here's my planned setup for my Nuvo 10g. It is cycled but currently doesn't have inhabitants.

Zoas
Mushrooms
10 blue legs hermit crabs
2 turbo snails
1 porcelain crab
Pearly jawfish (with accommodating pile of crushed coral aragonite mix and a cave in my rock
Green mandarin dragonet (I have a food supply)


If all of this goes really really well for a few months, I was hoping to expand to some other soft corals and a fire fish goby with appropriate hidey holes and rocks near the top of the aquarium.

What do you think?
The jawfish is fine but that should be the only fish in this sized tank. There is no chance of sustaining a mandarin even if you have a food supply.


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Unread 08/13/2015, 08:20 AM   #15603
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The jawfish is fine but that should be the only fish in this sized tank. There is no chance of sustaining a mandarin even if you have a food supply.
Thanks for the response Steve! A bit disappointing about the Mandarin. I've always wanted one. I've seen people keep them in a tank that small before? One guy had his for 3 years and it was still going. Possible not probable, maybe?

Also, I've been a bit concerned about the Zoa's toxins. Can they hurt fish that play around in the polyps?

Glad I can at least get a jawfish in there! You said it should be the only one? What would happen if I tried to add a firefish or a neon goby or both down the road? Bioload trouble or aggression?

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Unread 08/13/2015, 08:58 AM   #15604
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Steve,

I have a 90g mixed reef tank (w/40 gallon sump) that is about 4 months old. Up until now I only have coral in it as well as a few cucs, brittle stars, and urchins. I have two peppermint shrimp as well.

I currently have the following in my tank:

Kole Tang
Fire fish
Midas Blenny
Long nose Hawk

I am planning to add the following over the next six months to a year, please comment:

Flame Angel (I know that you do not recommend in a reef, but just want to make sure that the fish won't kill each other)
Fairy Wrasse
Anthias (maybe)
Clownfish (maybe)
Scooter Blenny (long term after 1 year minimum)

Thanks for your insight.

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Unread 08/13/2015, 09:24 AM   #15605
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Thanks for the response Steve! A bit disappointing about the Mandarin. I've always wanted one. I've seen people keep them in a tank that small before? One guy had his for 3 years and it was still going. Possible not probable, maybe?

Also, I've been a bit concerned about the Zoa's toxins. Can they hurt fish that play around in the polyps?

Glad I can at least get a jawfish in there! You said it should be the only one? What would happen if I tried to add a firefish or a neon goby or both down the road? Bioload trouble or aggression?

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Well, you could possibly have two jawfish. A small tank means a low number of fish occupants. Zoanthids will not harm fish.


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Unread 08/13/2015, 11:24 AM   #15606
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Hey Steve!

I plan on doing a nano mixed reef:

Tank size: Innovative Marine Nuvo Fusion 20

1 ocellaris clownfish (or a pair)
1 royal gramma
1 firefish
1 Tail-spot blenny
1 clown goby



Assortment of hermit crabs, snails, cleaner shrimp, maybe clams/fan worms/starfish/sea urchin later on

Soft corals, zoas, some LPS.
Probably 20 pounds live rock, 1 inch deep caribsea aragalive Fiji pink sand, no skimmer for now, InTank Media Baskets with filter floss, purigen, chemipure.
How's it look? Thanks, this thread is great!


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Hey Steve!

I plan on doing a nano mixed reef:

Tank size: Innovative Marine Nuvo Fusion 20

1 ocellaris clownfish (or a pair)
1 royal gramma
1 firefish
1 Tail-spot blenny
1 clown goby

A sexually mature pair of clownfish will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space. If you eliminate any clownfish (a juvenile will become female), the stocking plan would work but with any clownfish, this would be overstocked.

Assortment of hermit crabs, snails, cleaner shrimp, maybe clams/fan worms/starfish/sea urchin later on

Soft corals, zoas, some LPS.
Probably 20 pounds live rock, 1 inch deep caribsea aragalive Fiji pink sand, no skimmer for now, InTank Media Baskets with filter floss, purigen, chemipure.
How's it look? Thanks, this thread is great!



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Unread 08/13/2015, 12:20 PM   #15608
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Thanks! So if I had just one clownfish (not a pair), it wouldn't be aggressive towards the others and it would be stocked well? What sequence do you suggest I add the fish and inverts?


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Unread 08/13/2015, 12:32 PM   #15609
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Thanks! So if I had just one clownfish (not a pair), it wouldn't be aggressive towards the others and it would be stocked well? What sequence do you suggest I add the fish and inverts?
No. I said if you had no (none) clownfish, the remainder of your stocking plan would be fine.

Previously, I said: " If you eliminate any clownfish (a juvenile will become female), the stocking plan would work but with any clownfish, this would be overstocked. "


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Unread 08/13/2015, 12:44 PM   #15610
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No. I said if you had no (none) clownfish, the remainder of your stocking plan would be fine.

Previously, I said: " If you eliminate any clownfish (a juvenile will become female), the stocking plan would work but with any clownfish, this would be overstocked. "
Oh ok. If I want to have an ocellaris clownfish in the system, could I possible remove 1 other fish, such as the clown goby, to be able to keep him? So like this:

1 ocellaris clownfish
1 firefish
1 royal gramma
1 tail spot blenny

Thanks again for your help


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Unread 08/13/2015, 12:49 PM   #15611
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Last two fish?

Two paired clowns (1 snowflake, 1 chocolate), orange-spotted rabbit fish, lawnmower blenny in tank and very happy. Feed nori daily to rabbit fish as well as pellets/mysis, rods original to all depending on the day. Looking for last two fish.
How about a flame angel then yellow tang following month?


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Unread 08/13/2015, 03:30 PM   #15612
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Oh ok. If I want to have an ocellaris clownfish in the system, could I possible remove 1 other fish, such as the clown goby, to be able to keep him? So like this:

1 ocellaris clownfish
1 firefish
1 royal gramma
1 tail spot blenny

Thanks again for your help
No. If you want a pair of clownfish, no other fish. If you want the other fish, no clownfish. Or get a larger tank. It is not a numbers issue, it is a behavior issue.


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Two paired clowns (1 snowflake, 1 chocolate), orange-spotted rabbit fish

a rabbit fish requires a much larger tank

, lawnmower blenny in tank and very happy. Feed nori daily to rabbit fish as well as pellets/mysis, rods original to all depending on the day. Looking for last two fish.
How about a flame angel then yellow tang following month?

Adding additional algae grazers in this sized tank is not a good idea.



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Unread 08/13/2015, 04:14 PM   #15614
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No. If you want a pair of clownfish, no other fish. If you want the other fish, no clownfish. Or get a larger tank. It is not a numbers issue, it is a behavior issue.
No not a pair just one clownfish with the others?


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No not a pair just one clownfish with the others?
As I have said again and again. Clownfish (one or two is the same) or the other fish but not both.


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Unread 08/14/2015, 05:34 AM   #15616
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Can you keep more than one copperband butterfly in a single system?


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Can you keep more than one copperband butterfly in a single system?
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Unread 08/14/2015, 07:00 AM   #15618
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I'm looking into getting a Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish and was wanting to know if I could keep 1 male and 1 female in a 56 gallon column tank. They would be the only fish in the tank. The tank is 30"Lx18"Dx25"H. Any help is appreciated.
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I'm looking into getting a Fuzzy Dwarf Lionfish and was wanting to know if I could keep 1 male and 1 female in a 56 gallon column tank. They would be the only fish in the tank. The tank is 30"Lx18"Dx25"H. Any help is appreciated.
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Questions on aggressive fish would do best in the Aggressive Fish forum since I do not do analysis on aggressive fish. I note that you already did so.


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Thanks for looking. I hope to get a response from the Aggressive Fish folks as I certainly don't want to put two fish in a situation where they want to kill each other.
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Unread 08/15/2015, 05:00 AM   #15621
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Tank: 130 g/ Sump/ Skimmer/UV / 40 Kg Liverock/ 3 inch Sand

Current Fish
Nash Tang - 1
Yellow Tang - 1
Yellow Tail Damsel - 1
4 Stripe Damsel - 1
Electric Blue Damsel - 1
Fox face - 2
Clarkia Clown - 2 (pair)

New Fish
Powder Blue Tang - 1
Bicolour Angle - 1
Six Line Tank: 1
Yellow Belly Damsel - 1

Please let me know your suggestions





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Tank: 130 g/ Sump/ Skimmer/UV / 40 Kg Liverock/ 3 inch Sand

Current Fish
Nash Tang - 1 a naso tang (any species) needs a much larger tank
Yellow Tang - 1 will make additions difficult as it is aggressive once established
Yellow Tail Damsel - 1 aggressive
4 Stripe Damsel - 1 very aggressive
Electric Blue Damsel - 1 aggressive
Fox face - 2 two fox face will not work
Clarkia Clown - 2 (pair) aggressive

New Fish
Powder Blue Tang - 1 will not work with current tank mates
Bicolour Angle - 1
Six Line Tank: 1 aggressive
Yellow Belly Damsel - 1

Please let me know your suggestions

First, please do not use colors in this thread. I use magenta to easily differentiate answers from questions. You have too many algae grazers already in this tank, so adding more will make your problems worse.


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Unread 08/15/2015, 08:25 AM   #15623
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considering add 2 new fish

60 gallon cube tank

current fish:

1 coral beauty angel
3 yellowtail damsels
1 bengai cardinal
1 pajama cardinal
1 firefish
2 clownfish
1 green chromes

could I add a small wrasse, and a blenny ?


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60 gallon cube tank

current fish:

1 coral beauty angel
3 yellowtail damsels
1 bengai cardinal
1 pajama cardinal
1 firefish
2 clownfish
1 green chromes

could I add a small wrasse, and a blenny ?
depending on which wrasse, that may work. But I would not add two fish.


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Any comment on my list of additions?

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Steve,

I have a 90g mixed reef tank (w/40 gallon sump) that is about 4 months old. Up until now I only have coral in it as well as a few cucs, brittle stars, and urchins. I have two peppermint shrimp as well.

I currently have the following in my tank:

Kole Tang
Fire fish
Midas Blenny
Long nose Hawk

I am planning to add the following over the next six months to a year, please comment:

Flame Angel (I know that you do not recommend in a reef, but just want to make sure that the fish won't kill each other)
Fairy Wrasse
Anthias (maybe)
Clownfish (maybe)
Scooter Blenny (long term after 1 year minimum)

Thanks for your insight.

-Jeff
Steve - Do you have any comment on my list of planned additions?

Thanks,

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