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Unread 01/11/2017, 10:36 AM   #1551
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you ever add the gate valve to the return line like I mentioned? If so use that gate to edit flow to the tank. I wouldn't recommend limiting a drain as doing so gives a platform for gunk to build up and whatnot which can cause issues longer term. With a valve on the return pump you can better tune the water returning to the tank from the pump and also go larger pump for things like a manifold.

IE I have a Fluval SP6 on mine which is more then I need but with the manifold and such it is nice to have extra bandwidth. I do have the gate on the retun line closed about 1/4 of the way to limit the flow to the tanka nd balance the system.


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Unread 01/11/2017, 10:46 AM   #1552
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Question about water flow from the sump to the tank.

I purchased a Sicce pump rated for a little over 500 gph. When I set up the tank and added water, I noticed I had to really dial down the gate valve so the main drain wasn't sucking so much air. The gate valve was over 3/4s closed. I replaced that pump with the stock pump, rated at a little over 600 GPH and the gate valve only needed to be closed less than 1/2. I definitely see much better water movement in the tank and sump which leads me to believe I have pretty good flow. However, I do not see any way to increase or decrease the flow on the stock pump. I'm looking at a Sicce pump rated for over 700 gph. This for a 50 gal cube. Is this too much? I don't want to blow my fish all over tank. I was thinking it would be better to open up the gate valve and dial down the pump. That would give me greater flexibility for future pump demands.
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The Sicce Syncra's can be dialed back on the pump itself. The max head pressure has a lot to do with the flow coming out and in to your tank.


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Unread 01/11/2017, 12:31 PM   #1553
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SoulPatch.

Sorry, no I didn't. I thought you were talking to another person. Maybe this weekend I can add one of those.

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Unread 01/11/2017, 02:20 PM   #1554
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I am looking for info/input on taking delivery of your tank if it was freighted to you. Did the driver take the pallet(s) off the truck for you and put them wherever you asked? (driveway, garage, etc) Or did you have to unload it from the truck yourself?

And if you had free shipping, did it cost you something to have it taken off the truck and placed on your property?

Just trying to prepare for eventual delivery of my own tank.


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Unread 01/11/2017, 02:24 PM   #1555
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I didn't have to pay anything extra. The driver put it right in my garage and let me inspect everything before signing off. I'd email Steve and make sure you're getting the same service. But it really only took 5 minutes max. The driver had it off the truck and in my driveway before knocking on the door. Super straight forward.

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Unread 01/11/2017, 03:51 PM   #1556
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it all depends on the freight company that serves your area. Some charge for lift gate service and "curb side" whereas others do not. Before delivery you should get a call from the company and you can ensure everything with them. If they do charge for liftgate ping Steve and he will pay it typically.


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Unread 01/11/2017, 06:37 PM   #1557
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I had mine delivered by Estes with the free shipping option. Guy wheeled it right in my garage, no charge, called before arrival, and let me open everything up and inspect it.


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Unread 01/11/2017, 06:55 PM   #1558
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Thanks all. Sounds like it shouldn't be too big of a hassle. I'm not terribly concerned with a charge for lift gate service, just want to be prepared.


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Unread 01/12/2017, 06:03 PM   #1559
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@soulpatch....And others.... How does this revised plumbing job look for my 50g? Any suggestions / changes needed before I start to glue?


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Unread 01/12/2017, 06:10 PM   #1560
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Looks much better but you will want some pvc strapping for the manifold

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Unread 01/13/2017, 11:03 AM   #1561
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Great thread, am getting ready to get a new tank and was browsing the SCA website.

Im looking to "get simple" with a clown/rbta tank with lots of open space inside the tank to make it easier to keep the glass and tank clean.

I already have a 110g tank setup and I plan to transfer exisitng pumps, skimmer, lighting, etc over from it to the new tank.

Have read through the last 20 pages of this thread trying to glean info on what I should be ordering from SCA for best results and I think I have it down. Seems like there have been a lot of changes in the SCA offerings in the last 4 months. I didnt realize there was so much in the way of custom options from SCA until I read this thread


SCA white wood stand that comes at 36" tall
SCA 90 gallon rimless "cube" (36 24 24)
- get it drilled by SCA for a Synergy 16″ Shadow™ Overflow

does that seem to be about the optimum setup to order from SCA at this time ? Should I get anything else that works specifically with their 90 rimless setup that is best purchased through them initially ?


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Unread 01/13/2017, 12:04 PM   #1562
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Great thread, am getting ready to get a new tank and was browsing the SCA website.

Im looking to "get simple" with a clown/rbta tank with lots of open space inside the tank to make it easier to keep the glass and tank clean.

I already have a 110g tank setup and I plan to transfer exisitng pumps, skimmer, lighting, etc over from it to the new tank.

Have read through the last 20 pages of this thread trying to glean info on what I should be ordering from SCA for best results and I think I have it down. Seems like there have been a lot of changes in the SCA offerings in the last 4 months. I didnt realize there was so much in the way of custom options from SCA until I read this thread


SCA white wood stand that comes at 36" tall
SCA 90 gallon rimless "cube" (36 24 24)
- get it drilled by SCA for a Synergy 16″ Shadow™ Overflow

does that seem to be about the optimum setup to order from SCA at this time ? Should I get anything else that works specifically with their 90 rimless setup that is best purchased through them initially ?
I'd ask the price for just the tank drilled, stand, and sump. Then just buy everything else separate. I just bought the same system but got everything and have the traditional overflow. The external overflow would definitely be nice but I got too good of a deal to pass up for the traditional set up. The stock return pump is loud and weak. The stock skimmer is a little loud but I'm pretty happy with how it's working. I had initially planned to replace that but after running it for a while I'm going to stick with it at least until the pump eventually breaks.


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Unread 01/13/2017, 02:11 PM   #1563
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SCA 301 skimmer ?

I've been running my skimmer a few days. I have been fine tuning the amount of foam/water entering the cup by turning down the amount of bubble with the blue tube.
I noticed today I had foam spilling out of the blue tube. Is this normal?

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Unread 01/14/2017, 06:12 PM   #1564
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I've been running my skimmer a few days. I have been fine tuning the amount of foam/water entering the cup by turning down the amount of bubble with the blue tube.
I noticed today I had foam spilling out of the blue tube. Is this normal?

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Yeah that is normal for break-in. Mine did that for a bit. I just put it closer to 1 for a while and let it run. Then adjust as it breaks in. Mine pulls some really smelly stuff now. I have a pick on my build thread. I run mine around 8" water depth


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Unread 01/14/2017, 10:29 PM   #1565
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Hey guys. I'm looking to splurge some of that year end bonus on new LED lights! I am set on Kessils for their look and design. But not sure which model and how many. I have a 66G!

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Unread 01/15/2017, 12:58 AM   #1566
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^it's been a while since looked at there lighting foot print. all depending on what you want to grow and where. but if I remember right you could get away with one of the 360We.
of course double check me..


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Unread 01/15/2017, 02:13 AM   #1567
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Unread 01/15/2017, 01:05 PM   #1568
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Hi just got my 50g cube and want to up grade the skimmer.pretty small skimmer section, what skimmer upgrades have you guys used?


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Unread 01/15/2017, 01:21 PM   #1569
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Hi just got my 50g cube and want to up grade the skimmer.pretty small skimmer section, what skimmer upgrades have you guys used?
Look into the reef octopus 110sss space saver.


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Unread 01/15/2017, 03:56 PM   #1570
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Hi just got my 50g cube and want to up grade the skimmer.pretty small skimmer section, what skimmer upgrades have you guys used?
If you are putting it in the first section, I believe you are dealing with less than 6 inches of width. Limits the footprint a lot. Look at the eshopps line in the 120. You could also look at the ice cap k2. I settled on the axium x-120 by eshopps. I got a few pics in the eshopps 4th gen thread. Very pleased and a huge upgrade to the sca301 for me.


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Unread 01/15/2017, 04:16 PM   #1571
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Ryshark,looked at the Ro 110,dont think it fits.the footprint listed doesn't include the adjustment pipe.
Robsk, gonna look into that eshopp line


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Unread 01/15/2017, 04:34 PM   #1572
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Ryshark,looked at the Ro 110,dont think it fits.the footprint listed doesn't include the adjustment pipe.
Robsk, gonna look into that eshopp line
I think the total foot print is about 6"x8". What are the dimensions of your skimmer section in the sump? What's bigger the skimmer section or the section where SCA shows the filtration in the sump picture


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Unread 01/15/2017, 05:07 PM   #1573
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I believe that a Skimz sn123 will fit that space...


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Unread 01/15/2017, 05:12 PM   #1574
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Look into the reef octopus 110sss space saver.


This, works & fits perfectly.



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Unread 01/15/2017, 07:27 PM   #1575
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I think the total foot print is about 6"x8". What are the dimensions of your skimmer section in the sump? What's bigger the skimmer section or the section where SCA shows the filtration in the sump picture
Not sure, was going to take that baffle out anyway, it's not doing anything,
Fiji, is that the 50 cube sump with the drain and skimmer section split in two?

Just looking at the aquamaxx cone s1.Id have to make the water level 9.5",
another member(potatohead)did this by removing the first baffle in the fuge section and gluing it to the second baffle, just wondering if 9.5" would give enough space in the sump for back siphon when the return is turned off, any ideas?


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