H&S Skimmer Club

[krzyphsygy]

What feed pump is being used on some of the A-150's?? I have been using a mag 2.5 and it brings the water level right to the bottom of the bayonet. I was wondering if the water level should be higher??? It is on a 75gl.

[relaxednature]

I don't even get half a cup a month, and my water seems dirty, I tried to adjust to get wet skimmate but If I raise it to were I like the neck leaks.. (must be to high).

[CDReefLover]

If you like to skim wet, the best setting I discovered for my situation is when after a week, only the top 1/2" of the riser tube inside the collection cup is dirty as the rest is going into the collection cup.

Bioload and feeding habits has a big effect on how a skimmer performs. Also, whether the skimmer is properly sized for your system.

[spooda420]

Originally posted by maxxII
Stupid question here....

I've got an Af150-2001 on my 170 gallon (approx) system with a reasonably large bioload. I'm getting skimmate this color and consistancy, but it doesnt reek...not pleasant smelling, but not vile either. A friend of mine has a larger version of the external H&S on a much larger system and his skimmate is positively nausea inducing in odor...

Whats causing the difference in smell? Is my skimmer not dialed in correctly or does he have that much more of a bioload and thats the cause of the stink?

Basically, I just want to make sure my skimmer is working as efficiently as it can....

Nick

Nick,

I have the A250 x2 1260s on my 250g system... it pulls out some funk but does not smell horid... I think the st. louis fish just mind there manors a bit better than the rest of the fish in the US... Of course I only have 6 fish and a few SPS/softies in the tank now... I am preparing to add another 300g of fuge/sump space... perhaps this will make a difference in the funky smell...

[mario4254]

im using maxi-jet 600 to feed the skimmer

[maxxII]

Originally posted by maxxII
Stupid question here....

I've got an Af150-2001 on my 170 gallon (approx) system with a reasonably large bioload. I'm getting skimmate this color and consistancy, but it doesnt reek...not pleasant smelling, but not vile either. A friend of mine has a larger version of the external H&S on a much larger system and his skimmate is positively nausea inducing in odor...

Whats causing the difference in smell? Is my skimmer not dialed in correctly or does he have that much more of a bioload and thats the cause of the stink?

Basically, I just want to make sure my skimmer is working as efficiently as it can....

Nick

Originally posted by mavgi
IMO your skimmer is to small for your system , personal i don't agree with the rating size from the companies..... again this is my opinion and not a point of argument......

also you can do a test that will answer real quick to your question...... ask your friend if he can swap with you the skimmer for few days and i am pretty sure that you will see the different and performance quick in the collection cup.


There is a lot of other things that ppl will tell , feeding ... water quality , water movement & etc..... i didn't mention all this things because i know that with your knowledge you know all this stuff very well ..... i am doing a lot of test with pumps on skimmers and for example on the same skimmer body when i modify the pump to pull more air i got twice skimmate in same time , i don't know that.... but i believe that your friend run the A200 on his system (as you mention bigger ver...) it's 8"skimmer body that have more water volume & also the pump pull more air then the 2001... this make a lot of different on the skimming result....
try if you can to swap skimmers and you will see the result .

Mavgi,
Thanks for the reply. I agree w/ you about not necessarily taking every manufacturers skimmer ratings at face value. However, I did several months of research to include pestering ALOT of people who have used high end equipment...and the same responses kept coming up:

Both Deltec and H&S have pretty accurate ratings as far as their skimmers go.
H&S seems to have better build quality than Deltec according to people who have used both.

I also checked w/ Fins Reef prior to purchgasing my skimmer, so if its too small, I'm gonna be highly ****ed.

Unfortunately I cant borrow his skimmer as it wont even fit in my sump....he has a 12 inch diameter version....believe his system is in the vicinity of 800+ gallons. Good suggestion as I had even considered anything along those lines.

Originally posted by spooda420
Nick,

I have the A250 x2 1260s on my 250g system... it pulls out some funk but does not smell horid... I think the st. louis fish just mind there manors a bit better than the rest of the fish in the US... Of course I only have 6 fish and a few SPS/softies in the tank now... I am preparing to add another 300g of fuge/sump space... perhaps this will make a difference in the funky smell...

Chris, when did you upgrade to the 250 gallon system?

Nick

[spooda420]

Originally posted by maxxII


Chris, when did you upgrade to the 250 gallon system?

Nick

Its always been a 250 g system... 120g tank, 30g fuge, 100g sump... I just added the other 300g yesterday, infact it is filling as we speak. I think my skimmer will be just right for 550g of water...
i got a really good deal for an ART 150g acrylic sump then i got a 150 rubbermaid stock tank, it should be finished filling sometime in august the way its going now...

Now I just need to add more fishies, and SPS..

[DiegoLizarazo]

hi I'm buying a skimmer skimmer by H&S 150-F2001 Internal, for a system 90gal heavy load recommend me the skimmer
thanks

[mario4254]

i got the sameskimmer on a 120 gl tank works greAT

[bigtex52]

Has anyone compared the reduced height A200-1260 vs. the full height model? Does the shorty model skim any less or less efficiency?

[cmart28]

My new custom short A250

[CDReefLover]

Originally posted by bigtex52
Has anyone compared the reduced height A200-1260 vs. the full height model? Does the shorty model skim any less or less efficiency?

In reading a few threads on the shorter H&S skimmers, they seem to skim more wet than dry, which most seem to prefer anyways. But have no idea if the capacity drops with the shorter model. I would think depending on how much shorter is whether the capacity is a little less or not.

Originally posted by cmart28
My new custom short A250

That is one nice looking skimmer. I can't even tell it is a short version. How much shorter is it?

I purchased a 250-2x1260 and I think its overkill for my system. Haven't installed yet, may just bite the bullet and get a A200 instead.

[Jar*Head]

Looking forward to join the club soon with my A-400

[64Ivy]

Well, count me in. Just 'sworn in' by Eric for an A-250-2x1260, though I won't be taking delivery for a few weeks due to out of town commitments. As I explained to him, at my age, I'm permanently losing brain cells every day so I'm counting on him (and you other club members, of course) to make this as pleasant an experience one can have setting up and dialing in a new skimmer.

So when's our first club softball game?

[maxxII]

Your house tomorrow at 6pm. I'll be bringing wings 12 pack of Schlafly Pale Ale. You need me to bring anything else?



FYI, dont do what I did and try moving the skimmer body with the pumps attached. Something stupid will happen and you will snap off the pumps at the mounts to the body. Fortunately, I was able to glue mine back together with no ill effects...but its not anything I want to repeat. Place the skimmer where you want it, then attach the pumps to the body.

Nick

[64Ivy]

" Don't move skimmer with motors attached". Got it.

I also ordered a Dwyer airflow meter, although I'm not 100% sure yet if I am shooting to achieve a certain number reading or once the skimmer is dialed in properly, to simply try to maintain the number I have. In any event, hopefully I can sort it all out at MACNA, then I won't have to bother everyone so much. Any other useful tips would be appreciated though.

[maxxII]

I just found out that the pumps should be cleaned every 6 months in a system that does NOT drip kalk. System w/ kalk should be cleaned more often.

I had been under the assumption that a yearly soak in vineager was sufficient...not according to Finsreef.....ooops.

Nick

[eme]

Hi

I'm an H&S addict because of their build quality ..whatever that really means!

I've got the opportunity to buy a 2yo used 150-F2001 for a good price
but would I be better off with the A110-F2000 ?

The proposed tank is 48 x 24 x 24 with a 30G sump. Thanks

[Joe]

Originally posted by eme
Hi

I'm an H&S addict because of their build quality ..whatever that really means!

I've got the opportunity to buy a 2yo used 150-F2001 for a good price
but would I be better off with the A110-F2000 ?

The proposed tank is 48 x 24 x 24 with a 30G sump. Thanks

The 150 should be fine.....

Joe

[mario4254]

i have a 48x24x24 and use 150 and love it

[skey44]

i'm a member.




do most people just leave the fittings between the pump and the body dry fitted? I haven't set up the tank yet but was just wandering if these stay together okay

[eme]

Joe and mario4254 - Thanks very much for the reassurance. It will cost me c. $270 , looking at new prices , its amazing how much cheaper these European products are in the US .. OK, taxes make a 8-10% difference but their shipping costs must be 'ugly'.

[willan]

Hi,everyH&S fans

My skimmer it's A200 2*1260(in-sump) it's running almost 2 moths but it still not well for working

everytime when I turn on of 2 pumps it always overflowing at skimmer cup ,I tried to full open the flow and air but always just water on the skimmer cup ,I don't know why and I don't know how to solution this big problem,can everyone help me tell me your suggestion I'll very appreciate

water quality of my tank :
running 2 moths of live rock 40 kg

Temp: 26 degree
SG:1.026
in sump water level of skimmer : 24cm

[maxxII]

Sounds like the riser pipe, (outlet for skimmed water) is set too high for your set up. Look on the riser pipe and see where the two white marks are in relation to each other. Moving the marks apart will affect water level in the body of the skimmer. You'll have to play with it to determine which way you need to adjust it.

Other possibility is something jammed/blocking your riser pipe/skimmer output could also cause it to overflow.

Nick

[willan]

Thanks Nick, about the outlet pipe I had connect 90 degree pvc part into the water,because the outlet will make so many noise and salt dregs everywhere,I'm not sure that is reason of overflowing,and how do you think about the water level on 9.5"

Thanks anyway