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Unread 08/17/2011, 10:24 PM   #151
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Can you please advise John, is the top photo using 2x 250w HQI + 2x 54w T5 = 608Watts

And the bottom pic is 120watt LED?

If this is the case, all I can say is WOW - thats 80% power savings!!

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Yes, you are correct.

But, I really would like the third LED module as that will probably give roughly equal coverage to my previous lighting schema.

I am happier w/ the 100 degree optics, although honestly given the that LEDs are PAR beasts, I could probably go wider on the optics w/out sacrificing growth, but we will see. I really wish I had an apogee light meter.

It'd be easy to switch my lighting out, since I just suspended my MH setup higher above the LED lights, so I could I just drop them down for a quick PAR comparison at different spots in tank. I'd really love to see what the PAR is one the outskirts of the tank.

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Unread 08/17/2011, 10:28 PM   #152
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thanks John,
how deep is your tank?


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Unread 08/17/2011, 10:28 PM   #153
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Looks like a big difference between the 70 and 100 degree optics. The coverage looks better and appears to have more blue like your Mh set up. I ordered a quad module for my 70 gallong high. The tank is 36x 27 x 18. Judging from your coverage on a 48" tank with 2 modules I am feeling the quad is an overkill for my tank. However I plan on upgrading to a 300 gallon in the near future so will be needing to buy more lights . I have a DIY LED set up but it would look aesthetically unpleasent next to the mazarra.
Um.... Yeah. Hehe, I think the 100 degree optics would cover you for that tank w/ 2 units and w/ 70 degree optics w/ 3 units. I imagine at that depth w/ 70 degree optics, you could easily keep SPS at the bottom of the tank and possibly fry an egg.

But then again, these are modular and you can always add on more for larger tanks. I really hope they figure out a cleaner wire management system as I feel when you are paying this much money for a lighting solution, keeping it clean looking becomes a larger priority.

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Unread 08/17/2011, 10:36 PM   #154
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rufio173,

Thanks so much for being a Guinea Pig for the rest of us. This is the #1 reason I didn't believe the hype and decided to wait a few more years until this is more mainstream and things are figured out more. No thanks, I'll stick to my 150 watt 14,000k MH and two actinic T5HO over my 24x24x24" 60 gallon cube for a while longer. I tried LEDs, I burned all my LPS while my SPS thrived.
I somewhat agree, but I think this is a pretty good time to jump in... you've gotta realize that this is a super new product that is hot off the presses so will have a few bumps in the road before you hit the clear paved highway of product perfection. Growing pains for the this LED product, but even now the product is very tunable, which i think can make adjusting the intensity for LPS and SPS a lot easier to do. It's pretty hard to have this amount of control w/ MH. I think that ultimately w/ controllable intensities, you can find a happy medium for the type of corals you would like to keep in your reef, whether it be full out SPS, SPS/LPS, of a mix of SPS/LPS/softies. It really is all about setting up zones in the tank for each respective group of corals and even then, each specific coral will require its own specific set of parameters which will make it happy... the best we can do is ballpark it most of the time. Hehe

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Unread 08/17/2011, 10:37 PM   #155
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thanks John,
how deep is your tank?
16" so depth penetration is not a huge issue for me.


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Unread 08/17/2011, 10:42 PM   #156
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16" so depth penetration is not a huge issue for me.
how do you think they'd do with 27" depth?


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Unread 08/18/2011, 01:32 AM   #157
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For 27" depth you'll need to use their 40 or 70 degree optics for sure.


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Unread 08/18/2011, 06:06 AM   #158
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height dimensions of frame mount

Rufio, can you provide some dimensions of the frame mount? I'm particularly interested in the height from the trim on the tank to the top of the frame mount and from the top of the tank to the bottom of lights assuming they are level. I ordered five modules for my 72"x18"x24" 135 and I need to build a new canopy. I probably will not use the frame mount despite ordering one but I would like to hang my lights at the same height and need to build the canopy to accommodate. Thanks


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Unread 08/18/2011, 06:15 AM   #159
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Rufio, can you provide some dimensions of the frame mount? I'm particularly interested in the height from the trim on the tank to the top of the frame mount and from the top of the tank to the bottom of lights assuming they are level. I ordered five modules for my 72"x18"x24" 135 and I need to build a new canopy. I probably will not use the frame mount despite ordering one but I would like to hang my lights at the same height and need to build the canopy to accommodate. Thanks
Im also interested but might only get 4 modules! We have the exact same tank size!


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Unread 08/18/2011, 09:13 AM   #160
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Yes, you are correct.

But, I really would like the third LED module as that will probably give roughly equal coverage to my previous lighting schema.

I am happier w/ the 100 degree optics, although honestly given the that LEDs are PAR beasts, I could probably go wider on the optics w/out sacrificing growth, but we will see. I really wish I had an apogee light meter.

It'd be easy to switch my lighting out, since I just suspended my MH setup higher above the LED lights, so I could I just drop them down for a quick PAR comparison at different spots in tank. I'd really love to see what the PAR is one the outskirts of the tank.

Cheers,
John

Nice Light , The halide look was smoking .Kind of hard to beat that . Maybe the leds will grow on you .


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Unread 08/18/2011, 06:50 PM   #161
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any more pics?


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Unread 08/18/2011, 09:25 PM   #162
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Rufio, can you provide some dimensions of the frame mount? I'm particularly interested in the height from the trim on the tank to the top of the frame mount and from the top of the tank to the bottom of lights assuming they are level. I ordered five modules for my 72"x18"x24" 135 and I need to build a new canopy. I probably will not use the frame mount despite ordering one but I would like to hang my lights at the same height and need to build the canopy to accommodate. Thanks
So, let's see. The frame mount from the rim to the top is either 11" or roughly 7.5" depending on the orientation that you use.

From there, the actual lights will be roughly 4.5" down from the very top of the mount. So, if you do the math, your lights will be about 6.5" above the rim of the tank.

Mine are roughly 11" because I have a faux canopy propped up on the edge of my tank so I could install a wire mesh frame so fish wouldn't jump out.

Hope that helps.

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Unread 08/18/2011, 09:27 PM   #163
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any more pics?
haven't set up the last module, but will tonight, but will most likely post pics tomorrow night.

Thanks for being patient!

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Unread 08/18/2011, 11:23 PM   #164
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Setup the last module! Light in the tank looks great! Great spread, but line management is still a pain because of the fact that now I have two of the powersupplies to hook up and I ran out of their little line management clips. Although, I think it looks a hair better than before. I wish the power lines could be a little thinner and retractable. However, they are solid and as far as I can tell probably could be submersed in water or at least take a strong bathing since the connections have an O-ring.

Pics tomorrow after I come home from work!

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Unread 08/18/2011, 11:37 PM   #165
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great news!
can't wait to see it!


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Unread 08/19/2011, 06:08 AM   #166
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John, Thanks for the info. I'm not sure what you mean by the orientation but I think I will contact Maxspect directly for their recommended installation height and go from there. It sounds like you are happy with your purchase now...correct? I still have time to cancel my order and go with AIs if necessary so I'm hoping for more reviews. Please post more pics. Also I've been looking into line management systems and found this:
http://cableorganizer.com/grip-wrap-braided-sleeving/
Thought you might be interested. Thanks again.


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Unread 08/19/2011, 07:30 AM   #167
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Yeah i'm still on the fence as well have my pre-order in but i just want to see some more pics


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Unread 08/19/2011, 08:31 AM   #168
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I also am waiting to get my order from Salty Supply. Their photos are a bit deceiving, since you don't see any cords on the mounting bracket. Mine will be hid in a canopy, so I guess its not a huge problem.


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Unread 08/19/2011, 10:37 AM   #169
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I also am waiting to get my order from Salty Supply. Their photos are a bit deceiving, since you don't see any cords on the mounting bracket. Mine will be hid in a canopy, so I guess its not a huge problem.
You are right, their photos are deceiving (intentionally) as I asked several times for actual photos on their FB page, they said they would, but never did. But I still think it looks lot better than AI modules.


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Unread 08/19/2011, 08:42 PM   #170
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So far i really like the Mazarra! I had a problem with the 1st controller i received. Called Finsreef and he sent me out a new controller the same day no shipping charge. I received the new controller today and works perfect. I'm liking this so far! Colors look really nice. I love all the settings that are available. The 100 degree optics cover about 20" of my 24" long tank fairly well. Just ordered a second module to get full coverage. I'm pretty pleased!


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Unread 08/19/2011, 09:10 PM   #171
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As promised w/ 3 modules!

Sorry about the delay, I had a rough day at work, but glad to be home and sharing some of the nice pics of the 3 module coverage.

Enjoy!















And that's it, I tried to show shots from multiple angles and show you a little a bit of how the power lines ended up looking. Not too shabby, but certainly not perfect. We'll see how growth goes!

Feel free to ask questions, I will try to answer if possible. 100 degree optics was definitely the way to go for me so I'm much happier.

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Unread 08/19/2011, 09:21 PM   #172
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looks great! cords too.

watch out AI!

thank you!


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Unread 08/20/2011, 10:42 AM   #173
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John,
Looks great, you should turn the old Halides on too and take a pciture for us!
A friend of mine got a visit from the SPD thinking he is running a grow up operation since he had 4 x400 Halide and 12 x39w T5 fixture on a 6' ,30" deep tank! I was ROTFL!
Are you gonna go full on SPS?
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Unread 08/20/2011, 11:13 AM   #174
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I got mine yesterday. The mounts arrived wih a lot of scratches. Some machining on the fixtures looked like was not done cleanly. From 2 ft away u can not tell but These things are obvious upon closer inspection.

It is a very tight fit to fit four modules over a 3 ft tank. Its a real cluster F$%^. I dont like the color "Silver white" I was expecting something that was a cross between silver and white. Its just silver. The black ones look better. Maybe I can paint it. The modules dont slide easily on the track. I have no issues with the wires, seems as neat as u can get with a modular system. I will take some pics and measure PAR today.
I am really happy with the features that the contoller has.


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Unread 08/20/2011, 12:44 PM   #175
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Some quick PAR measurements:
Fixture is mounted 8" above the water surface. All lights at 100% . Fixtures are on a slight angle because this is the only way I can fit 4 modules above a 36" tank. Tank is 24" deep.
8" = (in air) 1050
5" under water= 480
16" under water=120

The measurment at 17" underwater is in a corner. The measurements at 5 and 8" is basically in the center of the fixture. These are the only places I can fit the sensor. Tank is full of corals. I was expecting greater intensity. I have DIY that pushes out 1500 from 20inches away in air.


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