The T5 Q&a Thread - split - Page 7

The Grim Reefer · 11/28/2011, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken6217

The fans weren't working properly on my ATI 6 bulb Powermodule and so it was running for about 12 hours with no fans. Could this damage the unit?

Thanks,
Ken

Hammered the lamps a little not a big deal

The Grim Reefer · 11/28/2011, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finzz

hey grim im setting up a 80 gallon tank (48x24x16) .. is a 8 bulb ati powermodule overkill? or should i go with a 6 bulb ... im also looking for a bulb setup .. its going to have mostly sps .. im leaning for more of a 20k effect .. thank you

Way overkill. Get a Tek

Blue Plus
Purple Plus
Blue Plus
GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Purple Plus
Blue Plus
Blue Plus

Finzz · 11/28/2011, 10:28 PM

go with a 6 bulb tek? i always hear great things about the ati fixtures ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grim Reefer

Way overkill. Get a Tek

Blue Plus
Purple Plus
Blue Plus
GE 6500K
Blue Plus
Purple Plus
Blue Plus
Blue Plus

The Grim Reefer · 11/28/2011, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finzz

go with a 6 bulb tek? i always hear great things about the ati fixtures ..

Honestly I'd rather have the 8 lamps. You could go Tek elite or go for the 8 lamp ATI sunpower hung a bit higher above the tank, say 10 inches above.

Finzz · 11/28/2011, 10:35 PM

ok .. but the 8 bulb powermodule is overkill? i would like to keep it ati .. :-) thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grim Reefer

Honestly I'd rather have the 8 lamps. You could go Tek elite or go for the 8 lamp ATI sunpower hung a bit higher above the tank, say 10 inches above.

The Grim Reefer · 11/28/2011, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finzz

ok .. but the 8 bulb powermodule is overkill? i would like to keep it ati .. :-) thank you

If you want the PM just hang it a little higher

TropTrea · 11/29/2011, 12:13 AM

If 1 and 6 are your dawn to dusk you could either run them both as Blue Plus or one Blue Plus and the other one Purple Plus.

I would not run 3 aqua blue specials instead I would replace on with another blue plus. If you think it too blue than you can swap out the second Aqua Blue Plus for a either a 10,000K for 6,500K bulb.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vermonter310

Okay, been reading for two hours on this and various other threads but can't seem to find the answer to this so figure I'll ask... I'm running a 6 lamp Nova Extreme Pro over a 72g bowfront. It's a FO with a few shrooms so I'm more concerned with highlighting fish color. I'm currently running 3 10k's and 3 460 actinics in this order:

Front
460
10k
460
10k
460
10K

The first and fifth are on a switch by themselves and used at dusk and dawn. All are on for daylight.

I'm contemplating:

ATI Blue Plus
ATI Aqua blue special
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Aqua blue special
ATI Blue Plus
ATI Aqua blue special

I'm worried about daytime color being to blue and wonder if an ATI Purpleplus in the #4 position would help balance that.

What do you think Grim?

ken6217 · 11/29/2011, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grim Reefer

Hammered the lamps a little not a big deal

Lamps, meaning the bulbs, or the fixture itself?

Thanks,
Ken

TropTrea · 11/29/2011, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ken6217

Lamps, meaning the bulbs, or the fixture itself?

Thanks,
Ken

Grim means the Bulbs themselves. It is the heat that slowly degrades the light bulbs. Theoreticly if you could keep the temperature of the bubls close to normal room temperature they would last forever. But because they do produce heat when there running they slowly degrade over time. When there is no cooling the the degradation is much faster than if they were cooled. running a day or two is not realy drastic but if you were running with no cooling constantly you would be replacing those bulbs 2 to 5 times more often dependent on the venelation in the fixture.

ken6217 · 11/29/2011, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TropTrea

Grim means the Bulbs themselves. It is the heat that slowly degrades the light bulbs. Theoreticly if you could keep the temperature of the bubls close to normal room temperature they would last forever. But because they do produce heat when there running they slowly degrade over time. When there is no cooling the the degradation is much faster than if they were cooled. running a day or two is not realy drastic but if you were running with no cooling constantly you would be replacing those bulbs 2 to 5 times more often dependent on the venelation in the fixture.

Thanks. I got nervous I killed my new fixture.

All three fans did not work. I had to push down with my finger on the fans to get them to spin. Evidentally they were hitting the ATI logo protective cover on top of it.
Ken

catfisher · 11/29/2011, 10:04 AM

My new T5HO bulbs are arriving today

. Do I need to replace only 2 at a time or can I replace them all at once. The only coral I'm concerned about is a frogspawn, galaxia, and hammer which are all mid-level in a 55 Gal. I also have a Red Lobo and orange blast acan on the bottom along with a crapload of zoanthids and Palys all over the tank. The new bulbs consist of of 2 ATI Blue +, a UVL Actinic White, and an ATI Actinic...

Froggy · 11/29/2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ken6217

Thanks. I got nervous I killed my new fixture.

All three fans did not work. I had to push down with my finger on the fans to get them to spin. Evidentally they were hitting the ATI logo protective cover on top of it.
Ken

I heard this is pretty common. I read the proper fix is to bend the logo cover away from interfering with the spinning of the fans. It is my understanding that it is not recommended loosening the screws as a fix.

The Grim Reefer · 11/29/2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catfisher

My new T5HO bulbs are arriving today

. Do I need to replace only 2 at a time or can I replace them all at once. The only coral I'm concerned about is a frogspawn, galaxia, and hammer which are all mid-level in a 55 Gal. I also have a Red Lobo and orange blast acan on the bottom along with a crapload of zoanthids and Palys all over the tank. The new bulbs consist of of 2 ATI Blue +, a UVL Actinic White, and an ATI Actinic...

Do a couple and wait a week to do the rest

catfisher · 11/29/2011, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grim Reefer

Blue Plus has more PAR than either of those other lamps.

Brains and Acans don't like a lot of light, clams and SPS do. You could do this

Front
Super Actinic
Blue Plus
Actinic White
Blue Plus

Now you are placing a lower PAR lamp up front over the brains which they will like but it dose mean you need to keep any clams you put in the tank back on the rocks so they get the direct light from the higher PAR lamps. They don't have to be high on the rocks, just below those good lamps.

If I'm using a dusk/dawn timer, should I use the Actinic White with the Blue+ as my daylight bulbs and the True Actinic and Blue+ as my Dawn/Dusk bulbs?

Or should I just keep it as you originally suggested?

TropTrea · 11/29/2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catfisher

If I'm using a dusk/dawn timer, should I use the Actinic White with the Blue+ as my daylight bulbs and the True Actinic and Blue+ as my Dawn/Dusk bulbs?

Or should I just keep it as you originally suggested?

I personaly would put the True atinic and Blue + on the dawn to dusk. The difference from no light to Dawn to Dusk should not be big shock. The brighter looking bulbs should be in the mid day cycle.

brob22 · 11/29/2011, 11:58 PM

hey Grim,
uv helped me alot in the past and i apreciate it, but i got one last question for ya.\
my tank is 18 inches deep and i got the 6 bulb sunpower running 4 inches above the tank.
should i raise it up, am i blasting the corals with to much light at 4 inches above.

The Grim Reefer · 11/30/2011, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brob22

hey Grim,
uv helped me alot in the past and i apreciate it, but i got one last question for ya.\
my tank is 18 inches deep and i got the 6 bulb sunpower running 4 inches above the tank.
should i raise it up, am i blasting the corals with to much light at 4 inches above.

Look at the corals. If they seem happy.... If not raise it.

brob22 · 11/30/2011, 12:21 AM

they seem pale, and i notice when i add frags the base of the frag grows under the shaded part of the coral, but not the part in the light.

also my ora green birdsnest frag is very healthy and growing but has whight streaks on the top brachs which im not sure but i think is cuz of the light.

do u ave any idea how high i should raise it, unless by chance this isnt a light issue, but it seems like it is to me

The Grim Reefer · 11/30/2011, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brob22

they seem pale, and i notice when i add frags the base of the frag grows under the shaded part of the coral, but not the part in the light.

also my ora green birdsnest frag is very healthy and growing but has whight streaks on the top brachs which im not sure but i think is cuz of the light.

do u ave any idea how high i should raise it, unless by chance this isnt a light issue, but it seems like it is to me

Try about 6 inches higher.

unkownvirus · 11/30/2011, 07:22 AM

need some help with my bulb configuration, im in a losing battle with getting good colors with 6 bulb sunpower, i have a mixed reef with lots of blue, yellow, pinks, reds,and majority of greens sps/lps corals. my problem is getting my colors to "pop" as good as how the greens "pop".

i have tried

front
blue+
blue+
fiji purp
ge 6500
blue+
blue+
**With this config. increased growth, everything is tinted blue, with only the greens popping

Front
blue+
actinic (can't tell you the brand, logo is practically gone. but its not ATI or UVL, ill try to take a pic later on today)
UVL 75/25
ge 6500
Blue+
UVL 454

** with this config. growth slowed a bit, colors are a little more balanced, but still not there

any suggestions, will be helpful

Thanks in advance

The Grim Reefer · 11/30/2011, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkownvirus

need some help with my bulb configuration, im in a losing battle with getting good colors with 6 bulb sunpower, i have a mixed reef with lots of blue, yellow, pinks, reds,and majority of greens sps/lps corals. my problem is getting my colors to "pop" as good as how the greens "pop".

i have tried

front
blue+
blue+
fiji purp
ge 6500
blue+
blue+
**With this config. increased growth, everything is tinted blue, with only the greens popping

Front
blue+
actinic (can't tell you the brand, logo is practically gone. but its not ATI or UVL, ill try to take a pic later on today)
UVL 75/25
ge 6500
Blue+
UVL 454

** with this config. growth slowed a bit, colors are a little more balanced, but still not there

any suggestions, will be helpful

Thanks in advance

Go back to your first configuration and play with different lamps in place of the GE 6500K

Finzz · 11/30/2011, 08:17 AM

Ok .. What bulb combo should i go with? How high should i keep the fixture from the surface of the water? Thanks in advance

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Grim Reefer

If you want the PM just hang it a little higher

The Grim Reefer · 11/30/2011, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finzz

Ok .. What bulb combo should i go with? How high should i keep the fixture from the surface of the water? Thanks in advance

Bout a foot above

Blue Plus
Purple Plus
Blue Plus
GE 6500K
ATI Actinic
Blue Plus
Purple Plus
Blue Plus

Shiroi Kitsune · 11/30/2011, 12:31 PM

Well I'm back again after a year ready to replace my bulbs. Last year I used, as recommended; 2 ATI purple plus, 2 ATI aquablue, and 4 ATI blue plus over my 75G SPS dominated. While happy at first with the setup up, I find it a little washed out now and find myself really yearning for more of a 20k radium effect. That said I still need to keep the color in my rainbow stylo, which is the only coral that looks crappy during dawn/dusk (4 blue plus) and markedly better under the full lighting. Another problem coral is a formosa stag which seems to think the bluer the better but looks like garbage under the full lighting. Any suggestions? I'm thinking possibly 5 blue plus, 1 purple plus, 1 aqua blue, and 1 true actinic.

rtparty · 11/30/2011, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiroi Kitsune

Well I'm back again after a year ready to replace my bulbs. Last year I used, as recommended; 2 ATI purple plus, 2 ATI aquablue, and 4 ATI blue plus over my 75G SPS dominated. While happy at first with the setup up, I find it a little washed out now and find myself really yearning for more of a 20k radium effect. That said I still need to keep the color in my rainbow stylo, which is the only coral that looks crappy during dawn/dusk (4 blue plus) and markedly better under the full lighting. Another problem coral is a formosa stag which seems to think the bluer the better but looks like garbage under the full lighting. Any suggestions? I'm thinking possibly 5 blue plus, 1 purple plus, 1 aqua blue, and 1 true actinic.

Skip the Aquablue and Actinic. You won't even know the actinic is on when all bulbs come on. The Aquablue is what washes things out as well.

I would try one of two combos.

6 ATI Blue Plus and 2 ATI Purple Plus. Put a purple bulb on the dusk/dawn and see what you think. It brings out colors that the blues miss.

5 ATI Blue Plus, 2 Purple Plus and 1 KZ New Generation.

11/29/2011, 10:04 AM	#161
catfisher Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 527	Should I change out the new bulbs gradually? My new T5HO bulbs are arriving today . Do I need to replace only 2 at a time or can I replace them all at once. The only coral I'm concerned about is a frogspawn, galaxia, and hammer which are all mid-level in a 55 Gal. I also have a Red Lobo and orange blast acan on the bottom along with a crapload of zoanthids and Palys all over the tank. The new bulbs consist of of 2 ATI Blue +, a UVL Actinic White, and an ATI Actinic...

11/30/2011, 07:22 AM	#170
unkownvirus Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Inglewood CA. Posts: 95	need some help with my bulb configuration, im in a losing battle with getting good colors with 6 bulb sunpower, i have a mixed reef with lots of blue, yellow, pinks, reds,and majority of greens sps/lps corals. my problem is getting my colors to "pop" as good as how the greens "pop". i have tried front blue+ blue+ fiji purp ge 6500 blue+ blue+ With this config. increased growth, everything is tinted blue, with only the greens popping Front blue+ actinic (can't tell you the brand, logo is practically gone. but its not ATI or UVL, ill try to take a pic later on today) UVL 75/25 ge 6500 Blue+ UVL 454 with this config. growth slowed a bit, colors are a little more balanced, but still not there any suggestions, will be helpful Thanks in advance __________________ T. Noel 1 wrasse (the king pin), 1 blenny(the hit man), 1 watchman yellow goby(the look out), 1 royal gamma(the fall guy), 1 cleaner shrimp(the fixer), and 1 weird crab (the weird guy) Current Tank Info: Mixed Reef 60 AGA, 20-25 gal sump/refugium/frag grow out (im a starving student...) HOB reef octo Current usa+aquaticlife lights, 2hydor koralia evo 1400 reefkeeperlite w/ATO Dose 2 part cal and alk And 12g inverts only Last edited by unkownvirus; 11/30/2011 at 07:28 AM.

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brob22 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,114	they seem pale, and i notice when i add frags the base of the frag grows under the shaded part of the coral, but not the part in the light. also my ora green birdsnest frag is very healthy and growing but has whight streaks on the top brachs which im not sure but i think is cuz of the light. do u ave any idea how high i should raise it, unless by chance this isnt a light issue, but it seems like it is to me

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Shiroi Kitsune Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 15	Well I'm back again after a year ready to replace my bulbs. Last year I used, as recommended; 2 ATI purple plus, 2 ATI aquablue, and 4 ATI blue plus over my 75G SPS dominated. While happy at first with the setup up, I find it a little washed out now and find myself really yearning for more of a 20k radium effect. That said I still need to keep the color in my rainbow stylo, which is the only coral that looks crappy during dawn/dusk (4 blue plus) and markedly better under the full lighting. Another problem coral is a formosa stag which seems to think the bluer the better but looks like garbage under the full lighting. Any suggestions? I'm thinking possibly 5 blue plus, 1 purple plus, 1 aqua blue, and 1 true actinic.