chinese led lights - Page 7

karsseboom · 01/18/2012, 09:37 PM

Depends on the less fixture. There all different and put out different amounts of par.

FlyFishGuy · 01/18/2012, 09:57 PM

I see these "chinese" 120 watt (and the 240 watt) fixtures at some of the nicest LFS's around. I get to travel a bit so I stop in fish stores any chance I get - and most saltwater specialty shops run these lights on at least a portion of their tanks. They do for the same reason we do (or want to) - they are inexpensive to purchase, cost significantly less to run and allow even tricky SPS to survive (and sometimes thrive).

To concur with others, the Chinese don't make only poor quality goods - they make what we order! We want cheaper alternatives - that's what they make. They also happen to make the more expensive LED's we purchase - you just don't see dozens of resellers on EBAY selling those. Those have a brand name on them because someone spent research and development $$$ discovering what combinations of LED's provide the the spectrum, intensity, appeal, etc we desire. Those designs are protected (though this protection is a challenge in China). Those too will be cheaper in a year.

As with all online purchases - buyer beware. If you review the specs of these lights there are numerous different models which will have different results. some run at 300Ma, some at 600ma. some have 30 blue and 25 white (or 112 1 watt), some have 25 blue and 30 white.....just know what you are buying so as not to be upset with your purchase.

This technology is quite similar to HDTV's in many respects. As such, unless US manufacturer's can figure out how to cut their labor costs dramatically, we'll have a few "high end" LED manufacturer's here - and the rest will come from Asia. Just like everything else we buy!

Just my two pennies! Happy Reefing!

-Steve

Cosmo^Kramer · 01/18/2012, 10:09 PM

Steve,excellent post.This may be a stupid question but,whats the difference in a light that runs 300ma to one that runs 600ma?The light I was looking at runs at 680ma

BigAirHarper · 01/19/2012, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plumbcrazy

I have this fixture in the 14k. Very happy with it! They also use semi\bridgelux leds. They also have a 1yr warranty, and there customer service is great. Would buy these again if needed. They also shipped very quick coming out of Canada.

Hey plumb, could we see some pics of ur tank with ur lights on?

Plumbcrazy · 01/19/2012, 02:47 PM

just the whites

the blues

and both whites and blues

Plumbcrazy · 01/19/2012, 02:50 PM

6 bulb t5 before

Old pic from when I first set up the tank.

BigAirHarper · 01/19/2012, 09:31 PM

Plumb love the lights. Great color when both are on. Is that a 40G breeder?

Plumbcrazy · 01/19/2012, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAirHarper

Plumb love the lights. Great color when both are on. Is that a 40G breeder?

Yea its a 40 breeder a little over kill tho on the equip. I have bean animal overflow, ehiem 1260 return, reef octo 2000sss, mp10 and now leds. I love the look with both the lights on.

BigAirHarper · 01/19/2012, 11:46 PM

How is the light spillage around the tank with it hung that high? That is one thing I'm trying to avoid if at all possible b/c I also won't have a canopy. I'm looking to setup a 36"x18" tank as well.

karsseboom · 01/20/2012, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyFishGuy

I see these "chinese" 120 watt (and the 240 watt) fixtures at some of the nicest LFS's around. I get to travel a bit so I stop in fish stores any chance I get - and most saltwater specialty shops run these lights on at least a portion of their tanks. They do for the same reason we do (or want to) - they are inexpensive to purchase, cost significantly less to run and allow even tricky SPS to survive (and sometimes thrive).

To concur with others, the Chinese don't make only poor quality goods - they make what we order! We want cheaper alternatives - that's what they make. They also happen to make the more expensive LED's we purchase - you just don't see dozens of resellers on EBAY selling those. Those have a brand name on them because someone spent research and development $$$ discovering what combinations of LED's provide the the spectrum, intensity, appeal, etc we desire. Those designs are protected (though this protection is a challenge in China). Those too will be cheaper in a year.

As with all online purchases - buyer beware. If you review the specs of these lights there are numerous different models which will have different results. some run at 300Ma, some at 600ma. some have 30 blue and 25 white (or 112 1 watt), some have 25 blue and 30 white.....just know what you are buying so as not to be upset with your purchase.

This technology is quite similar to HDTV's in many respects. As such, unless US manufacturer's can figure out how to cut their labor costs dramatically, we'll have a few "high end" LED manufacturer's here - and the rest will come from Asia. Just like everything else we buy!

Just my two pennies! Happy Reefing!

-Steve

LOL they have them on there tanks for advertising purpose...my favorite lfs in 200 miles of me had them on tanks in his store..........now lets see him put those China leds for his 400
Sps display tank with about 30 k in corals.

Plumbcrazy · 01/20/2012, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAirHarper

How is the light spillage around the tank with it hung that high? That is one thing I'm trying to avoid if at all possible b/c I also won't have a canopy. I'm looking to setup a 36"x18" tank as well.

Right now they are 18" off the water and spillage is bad! But they are more intense than t5s, so they are high and on a shorter cycle so corals don't bleach. As time goes on they get lowered and light cycle extended. With any lighting change to have to acclimate your corals to your lights. When it's all said and done they will be 10" off the water and at that height it's less spillage than I had with the t5s at 5" off the water.

Plumbcrazy · 01/20/2012, 05:16 AM

Even with them so high right now the wifey says she can sit on the sofa and watch tv, and not be blinded by the spillage. Where with the t5s it was nag, nag, your lights, nag or something like that.

kotu100 · 01/23/2012, 09:40 AM

I just put http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aquarium-Cor...item68c94c7950 over my 40 breeder, it replaced a NEP 6x39w t5 fixture. The one i got has 30B 25W and is a nice clean 14-15k look. Right now i have it 8" off the surface of the water and i'm getting good spread to the edges. However if i try to bring it up more i get too much spillage and the g/f complains.
It's been on the tank for 3 days now and all the corals look just as good as before but with a teeny bit more polyp extension, especially at night.
I guess time will tell if the SPS continues to grow, then this is deff my LED fixture of choice.

In the future i'm planning on putting in 2 red, green, and uv led's to help with the color. Or maybe even just add some Ecoxotic stunner strips.

BigAirHarper · 01/23/2012, 12:08 PM

Hey kotu, you mind posting some pics of your setup, I would love to see it.

kotu100 · 01/23/2012, 12:34 PM

I'll put up some pics when i get home from work soon, gotta get a usb cable for my camera.

Hyperion1337 · 01/23/2012, 03:34 PM

Wait has any1 tried the Evolution dimmable from reefkoi? I am really thinking about investing in this LED lighting.
http://reefkoi.com/index.php?main_pa...oducts_id=2460

It looks like the black box so i guess its a china LED fixture.

Reefkoi uses these fixtures over his frag tanks, but I havent seen any1 put up reviews or personal opinions on them. Are they any good?

kotu100 · 01/23/2012, 04:31 PM

for the price that evo fixture looks like a no go, i would get 3 of these $160 ones efore i dropped $500 on a fixture that uses 2w LED's.

Heres my pics of the 120w running 30 blue and 25 white LED's.
link to fixture http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aquarium-Cor...item68c94c7950

Nova Extreme Pro 6x30w
Ati Blue+
Ati Blue +
Ati Purple +
Ati Aquablue Special
Ati Blue +
Ati Blue +

LED fixture White and Blue on

Led fixture Blues only (the colors pop like crazy my camera just wont pick it up)

BigAirHarper · 01/23/2012, 07:33 PM

Yea i agree with kotu, that fixture looks like something you could get from eshine for half the price and it would have CREE leds.

Kotu, that light looks sick. I can't believe how well it lights up the tank. How high is it off the water about 6 inches? NVM i just saw your previous post had the answer of 8".

kotu100 · 01/23/2012, 07:39 PM

Thanks, I actually just measured it again, the light is 5" off the top of the tank, another .5" to the water surface.
The spread on this thing amazes me, can't wait to get 2 more for my 125g.

alcoolaid · 01/23/2012, 07:41 PM

I can't believe how that small fixture can light up a tank like that as well

BigAirHarper · 01/23/2012, 07:44 PM

Ok, keep us posted with growth, coral conditions, etc. I'm looking to setup up a 57G rimless or something along those lines with the same dimensions as a 40B just deeper and would love to know what happens and how your livestock responds.

kotu100 · 01/24/2012, 10:36 AM

I know its only been a few days running the LED's but i swear all my sps have more color now than they did last week. Also have not seen any sign of burning corals.
The lps on the sandbed looks the same regarding polyp extension and feeders coming out.
My red goni i got last week is opening up, and i'm seeing more colors coming in on a couple acans. My zoas are definitely more colorfu as well.

I had 2 chalice frags where the eggcrate is in the last pic, even being off to the side and on the sandbed it seemed like they were getting too much light, had to put them in the shade. I honestly wouldnt be suprised if this would support a clam on the bed.

karavak · 01/24/2012, 11:33 AM

I was wondering how the 150x3w E.Shine Systems Aqua Panel fixture would be for my 120 mixed tank. I mostly keep LPS but have a few SPS. I was thinking 2 of these fixtures to replace my 2x250w+t5ho fixture.

Is two of these fixtures too much or just right?

Also.. How do I actually order them if I wanted them? I'm use to seeing a "click here" to order button! I'm lost without one

Hyperion1337 · 01/24/2012, 06:09 PM

The Evo 200 look more promising than the Chinese ones since an online frag store (and my LFSs) use them with good results.

jucario · 01/25/2012, 11:50 AM

I got 2 of the 120watts lamps ordered directly from China. I haven't run them yet cause I have had difficulties hanging them on the ceiling, so I may have to hang them on a diy frame. I will just start to add corals (currently just have zoas, sun coral and kenya tree), so I may not be able to say if these lamps will work on sps.

I was between the ones I got and the Cree 60 (from Kontak - same as E.Shine but a bit cheaper and good communication), but I had seen the 1w version working just with the whites on my Cousin's Planted aquarium (which has high light demanding plants that never growth under t5 and now are growing like mad).

I hope to get good results (I am planning softies and easy lps) and anyway the price for me was better than getting a new T5 6x54 fixture with bulbs.

01/18/2012, 10:09 PM	#153
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01/23/2012, 07:41 PM	#170
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01/18/2012, 09:37 PM	#151
karsseboom Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,183	Depends on the less fixture. There all different and put out different amounts of par.

01/18/2012, 09:57 PM	#152
FlyFishGuy Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Solon, OH Posts: 70	I see these "chinese" 120 watt (and the 240 watt) fixtures at some of the nicest LFS's around. I get to travel a bit so I stop in fish stores any chance I get - and most saltwater specialty shops run these lights on at least a portion of their tanks. They do for the same reason we do (or want to) - they are inexpensive to purchase, cost significantly less to run and allow even tricky SPS to survive (and sometimes thrive). To concur with others, the Chinese don't make only poor quality goods - they make what we order! We want cheaper alternatives - that's what they make. They also happen to make the more expensive LED's we purchase - you just don't see dozens of resellers on EBAY selling those. Those have a brand name on them because someone spent research and development $$$ discovering what combinations of LED's provide the the spectrum, intensity, appeal, etc we desire. Those designs are protected (though this protection is a challenge in China). Those too will be cheaper in a year. As with all online purchases - buyer beware. If you review the specs of these lights there are numerous different models which will have different results. some run at 300Ma, some at 600ma. some have 30 blue and 25 white (or 112 1 watt), some have 25 blue and 30 white.....just know what you are buying so as not to be upset with your purchase. This technology is quite similar to HDTV's in many respects. As such, unless US manufacturer's can figure out how to cut their labor costs dramatically, we'll have a few "high end" LED manufacturer's here - and the rest will come from Asia. Just like everything else we buy! Just my two pennies! Happy Reefing! -Steve

01/19/2012, 02:47 PM	#155
Plumbcrazy Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 117	just the whites the blues and both whites and blues

01/19/2012, 02:50 PM	#156
Plumbcrazy Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 117	6 bulb t5 before Old pic from when I first set up the tank.

01/19/2012, 09:31 PM	#157
BigAirHarper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Destin, Florida Posts: 513	Plumb love the lights. Great color when both are on. Is that a 40G breeder?

01/19/2012, 11:46 PM	#159
BigAirHarper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Destin, Florida Posts: 513	How is the light spillage around the tank with it hung that high? That is one thing I'm trying to avoid if at all possible b/c I also won't have a canopy. I'm looking to setup a 36"x18" tank as well.

01/20/2012, 05:16 AM	#162
Plumbcrazy Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 117	Even with them so high right now the wifey says she can sit on the sofa and watch tv, and not be blinded by the spillage. Where with the t5s it was nag, nag, your lights, nag or something like that.

01/23/2012, 09:40 AM	#163
kotu100 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: easton, ma Posts: 75	I just put http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aquarium-Cor...item68c94c7950 over my 40 breeder, it replaced a NEP 6x39w t5 fixture. The one i got has 30B 25W and is a nice clean 14-15k look. Right now i have it 8" off the surface of the water and i'm getting good spread to the edges. However if i try to bring it up more i get too much spillage and the g/f complains. It's been on the tank for 3 days now and all the corals look just as good as before but with a teeny bit more polyp extension, especially at night. I guess time will tell if the SPS continues to grow, then this is deff my LED fixture of choice. In the future i'm planning on putting in 2 red, green, and uv led's to help with the color. Or maybe even just add some Ecoxotic stunner strips.

01/23/2012, 12:08 PM	#164
BigAirHarper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Destin, Florida Posts: 513	Hey kotu, you mind posting some pics of your setup, I would love to see it.

01/23/2012, 12:34 PM	#165
kotu100 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: easton, ma Posts: 75	I'll put up some pics when i get home from work soon, gotta get a usb cable for my camera.

01/23/2012, 03:34 PM	#166
Hyperion1337 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Miami Posts: 1,741	Wait has any1 tried the Evolution dimmable from reefkoi? I am really thinking about investing in this LED lighting. http://reefkoi.com/index.php?main_pa...oducts_id=2460 It looks like the black box so i guess its a china LED fixture. Reefkoi uses these fixtures over his frag tanks, but I havent seen any1 put up reviews or personal opinions on them. Are they any good?

01/23/2012, 04:31 PM	#167
kotu100 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: easton, ma Posts: 75	for the price that evo fixture looks like a no go, i would get 3 of these $160 ones efore i dropped $500 on a fixture that uses 2w LED's. Heres my pics of the 120w running 30 blue and 25 white LED's. link to fixture http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aquarium-Cor...item68c94c7950 Nova Extreme Pro 6x30w Ati Blue+ Ati Blue + Ati Purple + Ati Aquablue Special Ati Blue + Ati Blue + LED fixture White and Blue on Led fixture Blues only (the colors pop like crazy my camera just wont pick it up)

01/23/2012, 07:33 PM	#168
BigAirHarper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Destin, Florida Posts: 513	Yea i agree with kotu, that fixture looks like something you could get from eshine for half the price and it would have CREE leds. Kotu, that light looks sick. I can't believe how well it lights up the tank. How high is it off the water about 6 inches? NVM i just saw your previous post had the answer of 8".

01/23/2012, 07:39 PM	#169
kotu100 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: easton, ma Posts: 75	Thanks, I actually just measured it again, the light is 5" off the top of the tank, another .5" to the water surface. The spread on this thing amazes me, can't wait to get 2 more for my 125g.

01/23/2012, 07:44 PM	#171
BigAirHarper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Destin, Florida Posts: 513	Ok, keep us posted with growth, coral conditions, etc. I'm looking to setup up a 57G rimless or something along those lines with the same dimensions as a 40B just deeper and would love to know what happens and how your livestock responds.

01/24/2012, 10:36 AM	#172
kotu100 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: easton, ma Posts: 75	I know its only been a few days running the LED's but i swear all my sps have more color now than they did last week. Also have not seen any sign of burning corals. The lps on the sandbed looks the same regarding polyp extension and feeders coming out. My red goni i got last week is opening up, and i'm seeing more colors coming in on a couple acans. My zoas are definitely more colorfu as well. I had 2 chalice frags where the eggcrate is in the last pic, even being off to the side and on the sandbed it seemed like they were getting too much light, had to put them in the shade. I honestly wouldnt be suprised if this would support a clam on the bed.

01/24/2012, 11:33 AM	#173
karavak Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 31	I was wondering how the 150x3w E.Shine Systems Aqua Panel fixture would be for my 120 mixed tank. I mostly keep LPS but have a few SPS. I was thinking 2 of these fixtures to replace my 2x250w+t5ho fixture. Is two of these fixtures too much or just right? Also.. How do I actually order them if I wanted them? I'm use to seeing a "click here" to order button! I'm lost without one

01/24/2012, 06:09 PM	#174
Hyperion1337 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: South Miami Posts: 1,741	The Evo 200 look more promising than the Chinese ones since an online frag store (and my LFSs) use them with good results.

01/25/2012, 11:50 AM	#175
jucario Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 88	I got 2 of the 120watts lamps ordered directly from China. I haven't run them yet cause I have had difficulties hanging them on the ceiling, so I may have to hang them on a diy frame. I will just start to add corals (currently just have zoas, sun coral and kenya tree), so I may not be able to say if these lamps will work on sps. I was between the ones I got and the Cree 60 (from Kontak - same as E.Shine but a bit cheaper and good communication), but I had seen the 1w version working just with the whites on my Cousin's Planted aquarium (which has high light demanding plants that never growth under t5 and now are growing like mad). I hope to get good results (I am planning softies and easy lps) and anyway the price for me was better than getting a new T5 6x54 fixture with bulbs.