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09/26/2006, 06:13 AM
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Midwest Aquatics sells it...look here reefguy:
http://www.midwestaquatic.com/produc...urity%20Sulfur
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09/26/2006, 12:24 PM
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sulfur pellets
Yeah, thanks. I saw that. But these are the standard pellets. Midwest says they are switching sulfur, because the little pellets get packed down.
So I was hoping Bill could point me to where he can get the bigger ones. I don't want to wait for MA to make the switch. I know you can import them from Europe. But someone in the US must make them too. |
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09/26/2006, 12:43 PM
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Did MA say when they 'll make the switch to the "bigger" pellets?
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09/26/2006, 11:01 PM
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It's in the message board.
Pretty soon, I guess. Right now they are saying every few months, when you get a lot of slime build up, rinse out the filter. They have offered to send free media to current customers when they get it in, but I don't know when it will be. |
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10/07/2006, 11:42 PM
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I just called. They say 4 week.
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10/27/2006, 02:06 PM
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new sulfur from Midwest Aquatic
supposedly they are shipping out new sulfur this week.
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11/12/2006, 03:25 AM
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ANybody here use the ARM sulfur media. It's 100% elemental sulfur.
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11/12/2006, 11:30 AM
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Has anybody been not happy or seen no results with these reactors?
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11/12/2006, 08:09 PM
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http://www.finsreef.com/home.php?cat=258 12 bucks a pound, though. But no one in the US seems to make the balls. Just split pea. Midwest is having a ton shipped in from Europe. Which is why it is taking so long. |
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11/27/2006, 02:24 PM
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I hate to derail the thread a bit here, but has anyone who is now using the sulfur reactor ever tried the DSB bucket? I wonder if the same results can be achieved with a DSB bucket, but more than likely at a slower rate. I'm very intrigued by the reactor, however I just can't bring myself to justify spending the $450ish on the denitrator when my nitrates are only at 20ppm anyways, and the bucket is less than $20 and I don't need something thats super efficient.
Let me know what you guys think about my situation BTW I'm running a mostly coral tank 120g, 3 fish. |
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11/27/2006, 02:32 PM
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Sps won't like any nitrates, but if you're not keeping sps, then a remote dsb might work fine for you.
I have been running a reactor a couple of months now, had to pull the macro out of my fudge over the weekend, it was withering away. Today I pruned the Halimeda out of my tank, it was browning out, not much left for it to live on. It's a lot of money but it really works well.
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11/27/2006, 06:48 PM
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Reefwreak, FYI, I made my own Coil denitrator. Materials can be aquired for about 20-30 bucks. works like a charm and keeps my nitrates at zero.
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11/27/2006, 08:09 PM
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I built some coils over the years, I can tell you they do not work anywhere near as well as the sulphur denitrators that I built. The sulphur units are way better.
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11/27/2006, 09:44 PM
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For $450 they had better be..... I just offered a cheaper suggestion. I have a failry good bioload for a 75, and my nitrates are zero. I have a 65 foot coil that runs at about 4-6 drops per second. when I first set it up my nitrates were well over 50 ppm. after the unit had cycled, they slowly dropped over the next month till they are now undetectable on my tests.
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12/03/2006, 01:05 AM
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Skydancer, is your tank at 0 nitrate now? and how long has it been at zero?
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12/03/2006, 10:34 PM
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why does this have to have flow if you ran a 10 foot syphon then stoped the flow would this not get rid of nitrates. ammonia and nitrite are easily taken care of so why do we need flow. basicaly lack of flow should equal 0, 02 or reltivly close. the reast of our tank looks after nitrite and ammonia. if this is flawed let me know but i have had this set up two and a half years and thought it was working, well 0 nitrates forever. ?
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12/03/2006, 10:52 PM
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So, what exactly is the sulfur for? These reactors look just like Calcium reactors, which have slow flow as well. Would it stand to reason that the same bacteria accumulate in a calcium reactor as well, or can they not survive at the lowered pH in the calcium reactor? If they do survive, and are receiving slow flow, virtually anaerobic conditions should exist in a calcium reactor too, and nitrate breakdown should occur as well, correct? Or, is the sulfur a metabolite that is needed by nitrifying bacteria to break the nitrate down into nitrogen gas?
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12/04/2006, 03:09 PM
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So I'm able to maintain 5 ppm for a few months now, but there is more to the story. Here si an overview... The XL unit that I have is capable of taking care of a determined quantity of nitrates. A skimmer is designed to eliminate the majority BEFORE the dead proteins become nitrates. So the reason I can not get it to zero (although the Sulfur Denintrifier is putting out zero at 6-10 drops per second) is because I have a very under sized skimmer that can not keep up with my 300 gal reef and a lot of large fish. So I just invested in a new Deltec AP702 skimmer. Once it is installed I will be able to tell you (I hope) that the properly sized skimmer and the XL Sulfur Denitrifier have brought my nitrates to zero. Right now I 'm forced to change about 50 gal of water per week to keep the water quality at 5ppm. Stay tuned... and I 'll report back as soon as my new skimmer is up and running. It will take 3-4 weeks to set it up because I had to order a bigger sump for it.
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12/04/2006, 03:11 PM
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12/08/2006, 01:51 AM
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I bought one of the SWC units. Running it on my 300G tank with heavy bioload the thing rocks! It brought down my Nitrate to 5 in weeks. I was running 100+. no more major water changes.
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12/15/2006, 12:57 PM
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Skydancer,
What is a "pinch valve"? What does it look like? Also, how noisy is the aqualifter pump?
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12/15/2006, 12:57 PM
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I just researched pinch valves, and I want to make sure I understand, because I'm planning on buying a denitrifier from Midwest . . . . the pinch valve that comes with the unit can permanently deform the tubing, so you can't increase the drip rate when it comes time to do so. So you replaced the drip valve with a "inline mini/micro plastic valve," which allows you to adjust the drip.
. . . So is the inline mini/micro plastic valve you mentioned the thing that's used for mini air tubing (barb-to-barb valve for mini air tubing)?
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12/18/2006, 09:44 AM
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my midwest
I shut down mine denit. yesterday - I am leaving for a few days and have to constantly adjust drip, hate deformed tubing set up and something keeps clogging up. tired of waiting for the correct sulfur after having the unit with incorrect sulfur for months and months
i found this when i opened it up, 2 months ago I had a similar issue with clogging 
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12/18/2006, 09:55 AM
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Nick,
What brand Denitrator do you have?
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12/18/2006, 10:09 AM
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midwest but not so sure any of them are perfect - wish the tubing was larger and somehow got small at the end or something - whatever it takes to have more reliable drip
whatever that clog is, it was some kind of growth with more body then just slime - it may have been some cave dwelling slimesponge that likes altered ph, sulfur foe dinner, etc I think they issue would be solved with some kind of foam filter or something on the pump intake - whatever it was cloged the tubes of the pump itself - sort of gross too Quote:
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