Official: Masterflex Calcium Reactor Setup Thread - Page 70

ClownsRCoo · 04/28/2016, 10:30 AM

100rpm can be pretty noisy. Also you don't have a way of fine tuning your flow rates. You just get to pick your tubing but are stuck with one set flow rate. For example using the tubing he is using above on that pump gives you a flow rate of 280ml which is insane. So your available flow rates are going to be 6, 21, 80, 170, 280, 380.

Those top 4 are probably higher than you would ever use.

Let's say you perfect balance is at a rate of 36ml you have to run the tubing for the 80ml and I guess only run it for certain times throughout the day.

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vhuang168 · 04/28/2016, 10:31 AM

That pump is variable speed from 0.1-100 rpm not fixed

Depends on your tank n consumption rate. If you have a smaller tank, it might work

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ClownsRCoo · 04/28/2016, 10:35 AM

Oh ok. From what I gather here then is just that it's going to put more wear on that pump faster and be noisier. If you are running 25rpm for example then you are running that pump at 25% of its max speed. That same rpm on one that goes to 600 is only running it at 4%.

It's like running your car in 1st gear vs 5th.

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jimmy007 · 04/28/2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ClownsRCoo

Oh ok. From what I gather here then is just that it's going to put more wear on that pump faster and be noisier. If you are running 25rpm for example then you are running that pump at 25% of its max speed. That same rpm on one that goes to 600 is only running it at 4%.

It's like running your car in 1st gear vs 5th.

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Thanks for explaining it like that it's easier to understand.

jimmy007 · 04/28/2016, 10:40 AM

So would you get this model 7523-70?

ClownsRCoo · 04/28/2016, 10:44 AM

It can def handle your flow it just comes down to noise. At least it's brushless which helps. I'd probably get it if it was a good deal. Search that model in this thread and find someone hat has it and ask them.

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vhuang168 · 04/28/2016, 10:45 AM

There are a few 7523-60 pumps on eBay right.

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ClownsRCoo · 04/28/2016, 10:48 AM

That's what I have and like it. Plenty of flow and plenty quiet. I don't think you even hear it until you get up in the mid 20's for rpm which I doubt I'll ever get that high.

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vhuang168 · 04/28/2016, 10:51 AM

The 7550-30 I have is also brushless and 10-600rpm. Just has a remote capability but essentially the same pump as he 7523-60. I can't hear it running at 10rpm.

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jimmy007 · 04/28/2016, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by vhuang168

There are a few 7523-60 pumps on eBay right.

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Yes but very expensive.

jimmy007 · 04/28/2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ClownsRCoo

It can def handle your flow it just comes down to noise. At least it's brushless which helps. I'd probably get it if it was a good deal. Search that model in this thread and find someone hat has it and ask them.

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$410 ship with pump head easy load ll 77200-60.

vhuang168 · 04/28/2016, 11:16 AM

That's a good price. How big is your tank?

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jimmy007 · 04/28/2016, 11:47 AM

250 gallons

vhuang168 · 04/29/2016, 12:25 PM

I don't know how much uptake a 250 will have. Maybe someone with a big tank will chime in or maybe look at the previous pages and see if anyone with a big tank states their settings. But I think most run around 30ml/min.

So I just looked and @silef is running at 24ml/min at 1 bubble/6sec. Which is really slow.

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swk · 04/29/2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vhuang168

I don't know how much uptake a 250 will have. Maybe someone with a big tank will chime in or maybe look at the previous pages and see if anyone with a big tank states their settings. But I think most run around 30ml/min.

So I just looked and @silef is running at 24ml/min at 1 bubble/6sec. Which is really slow.

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In this regard its more to do with the size of the calrx and how much media it'll hold.

For example you run a geo 618 at a ton of flow and lots of gas OR run a 818 at a more "normal" flow rate etc and get the same result.

jimmy007 · 04/29/2016, 03:24 PM

I will use the Korallin 3002 calcium reactor with this pump.

jimmy007 · 05/06/2016, 12:09 AM

I got my masterflex 7523-70 with easy load head 77200-60. How do I know it is working correctly? It turn on all the function it allow me to change it.

BigMike75 · 05/06/2016, 06:34 AM

I checked mine with a ml measuring cup. I set mine for 40 ml/m and timed it for 1 minute. I got like 38 and 39 a couple of times with a new piece of tubing. Most of them you can calibrate also.

Bpb · 05/10/2016, 09:33 AM

I have a couple of quick questions. I just joined the master flex club and picked up one of the console drives. It's one of the older brushed motor models. I know that they aren't quite as silent as the brushless models, but it's not too terrible. I do hear the noticeable 60 Hz hum that it makes even at the lowest speeds. The fans on my ATI lights are loud enough to mostly drowned it out, but when the lights are off it is pretty noticeable even in a closed cabinet. I think the fact that the cabinet is wood makes the sound resonate more. Any ideas on how I can possibly dampen the noise a bit? I don't have a basement or a nearby closet I can put the pump in so that is out.

Also, this may be a bit of a generalized question but what would a good RPM rate be to start with on a low demand tank that I am just starting to collect SPS for. Demand is not incredibly high right now

slief · 05/10/2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bpb

I have a couple of quick questions. I just joined the master flex club and picked up one of the console drives. It's one of the older brushed motor models. I know that they aren't quite as silent as the brushless models, but it's not too terrible. I do hear the noticeable 60 Hz hum that it makes even at the lowest speeds. The fans on my ATI lights are loud enough to mostly drowned it out, but when the lights are off it is pretty noticeable even in a closed cabinet. I think the fact that the cabinet is wood makes the sound resonate more. Any ideas on how I can possibly dampen the noise a bit? I don't have a basement or a nearby closet I can put the pump in so that is out.

Also, this may be a bit of a generalized question but what would a good RPM rate be to start with on a low demand tank that I am just starting to collect SPS for. Demand is not incredibly high right now

Wrap it in a blanket. That's what one of my friends did and it made a huge difference. His has the separate motor and controller as opposed to the all in one type that most of us have so heat isn't an issue for him. He just wrapped the motor. If yours is the all in one type which I figure it is, and you do decide to wrap it it, I would just check it after an hour or so to make sure it's not getting too warm. Worst case, place a folded up blanket over the top and sides of it so it's not completely wrapped. That way, the bottom of the unit can get a bit of airflow.

tkeracer619 · 05/11/2016, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenMan

I'm bringing a 700 gallon tank back to life. Last time I had the tank running, I was dosing three part using a masterflex pump system. Based on this thread I decided to go with a calcium reactor instead.

Seems like one of the hard parts to getting this type of system going is the 24/7 pump, luckily my old dosing pump can be repurposed!

I knew Mark before he was famous, so I sent him an e-mail and he shot me over a shopping list. Two weeks later, I received everything on the list and found a MTC ProCal reactor on Craigslist.

So here are pictures of my setup. I'm amazed at how simple it was to get going. My PSI is 12 and I'm at 60bpm, which results in a stable 6.6ph at 30ml per minute. Also, it looks like it should be very stable and consistent over time.

Too bad I had to turn off the CO2 because I seemed to have jumped the gun in adding SPS colonies to the new tank. I guess my cycle wasn't finished and I had an ammonia and phosphate spike that took most of them out one night.....so I'm testing Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrate daily and hoping the tank stabilizes so that I can get back into my SPS addiction and have the CA reactor running.

Great setup Jeff!

Famous? I love you guys

We're on page 70, lots of people with great tanks and setups in this thread! Cheers to stability

BTW Jeff, I bought a 600 gallon tank

. Starting a new build thread.

dendrite · 05/13/2016, 04:40 PM

Ok, I give up. What's the difference between LS17 and Ls 24 tubing, They both have the same flow characteristics, and would fit the same fittings so why the concentration on LS 17. Heads that accept Ls 24 seem to be in much greater availability and lower price on E-Bay then the Ls 17 heads

scuzy · 05/13/2016, 04:44 PM

i think LS 17 is the thickness of the tubing ?

Bpb · 05/13/2016, 05:07 PM

My Masterflex came with a pump head that doesn't accept ls 17 tubing, so I use ls 15 performance tubing which is insanely thick. I feel like the tube thickness is equal to the inner diameter if that makes sense. Came with adaptors that connect perfectly with our standard 1/4" airline tubing so I'm going to roll with it. I've got 3-4 feet of spare tubing so it should suffice.

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dendrite · 05/13/2016, 06:13 PM

Is there any advantage to using the thinner walled LS 17 rather than Ls 24 then, such as increased pump life or increased head or roller life?

04/28/2016, 10:30 AM	#1726
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	100rpm can be pretty noisy. Also you don't have a way of fine tuning your flow rates. You just get to pick your tubing but are stuck with one set flow rate. For example using the tubing he is using above on that pump gives you a flow rate of 280ml which is insane. So your available flow rates are going to be 6, 21, 80, 170, 280, 380. Those top 4 are probably higher than you would ever use. Let's say you perfect balance is at a rate of 36ml you have to run the tubing for the 80ml and I guess only run it for certain times throughout the day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

04/28/2016, 10:31 AM	#1727
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	Official: Masterflex Calcium Reactor Setup Thread That pump is variable speed from 0.1-100 rpm not fixed Depends on your tank n consumption rate. If you have a smaller tank, it might work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

04/28/2016, 10:35 AM	#1728
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	Oh ok. From what I gather here then is just that it's going to put more wear on that pump faster and be noisier. If you are running 25rpm for example then you are running that pump at 25% of its max speed. That same rpm on one that goes to 600 is only running it at 4%. It's like running your car in 1st gear vs 5th. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

04/28/2016, 10:44 AM	#1731
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	It can def handle your flow it just comes down to noise. At least it's brushless which helps. I'd probably get it if it was a good deal. Search that model in this thread and find someone hat has it and ask them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

04/28/2016, 10:45 AM	#1732
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	There are a few 7523-60 pumps on eBay right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

04/28/2016, 10:40 AM	#1730
jimmy007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: El Monte Posts: 966	So would you get this model 7523-70?

04/28/2016, 10:48 AM	#1733
ClownsRCoo Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 813	Official: Masterflex Calcium Reactor Setup Thread That's what I have and like it. Plenty of flow and plenty quiet. I don't think you even hear it until you get up in the mid 20's for rpm which I doubt I'll ever get that high. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PlanetAquariums 171g (60x30x22) - RoyalExclusiv Dreambox - Bubble King Double Cone 200 Total system volume - 225g

04/28/2016, 10:51 AM	#1734
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	The 7550-30 I have is also brushless and 10-600rpm. Just has a remote capability but essentially the same pump as he 7523-60. I can't hear it running at 10rpm. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

04/28/2016, 11:16 AM	#1737
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	That's a good price. How big is your tank? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

04/28/2016, 11:47 AM	#1738
jimmy007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: El Monte Posts: 966	250 gallons

04/29/2016, 12:25 PM	#1739
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	Official: Masterflex Calcium Reactor Setup Thread I don't know how much uptake a 250 will have. Maybe someone with a big tank will chime in or maybe look at the previous pages and see if anyone with a big tank states their settings. But I think most run around 30ml/min. So I just looked and @silef is running at 24ml/min at 1 bubble/6sec. Which is really slow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

04/29/2016, 03:24 PM	#1741
jimmy007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: El Monte Posts: 966	I will use the Korallin 3002 calcium reactor with this pump.

05/06/2016, 12:09 AM	#1742
jimmy007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: El Monte Posts: 966	I got my masterflex 7523-70 with easy load head 77200-60. How do I know it is working correctly? It turn on all the function it allow me to change it.

05/06/2016, 06:34 AM	#1743
BigMike75 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mount Washington, KY Posts: 360	I checked mine with a ml measuring cup. I set mine for 40 ml/m and timed it for 1 minute. I got like 38 and 39 a couple of times with a new piece of tubing. Most of them you can calibrate also. __________________ Having fun so far! Current Tank Info: 180 Reef Ready in the works..

05/10/2016, 09:33 AM	#1744
Bpb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 3,148	I have a couple of quick questions. I just joined the master flex club and picked up one of the console drives. It's one of the older brushed motor models. I know that they aren't quite as silent as the brushless models, but it's not too terrible. I do hear the noticeable 60 Hz hum that it makes even at the lowest speeds. The fans on my ATI lights are loud enough to mostly drowned it out, but when the lights are off it is pretty noticeable even in a closed cabinet. I think the fact that the cabinet is wood makes the sound resonate more. Any ideas on how I can possibly dampen the noise a bit? I don't have a basement or a nearby closet I can put the pump in so that is out. Also, this may be a bit of a generalized question but what would a good RPM rate be to start with on a low demand tank that I am just starting to collect SPS for. Demand is not incredibly high right now

05/13/2016, 04:40 PM	#1747
dendrite Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: denver Posts: 493	Ok, I give up. What's the difference between LS17 and Ls 24 tubing, They both have the same flow characteristics, and would fit the same fittings so why the concentration on LS 17. Heads that accept Ls 24 seem to be in much greater availability and lower price on E-Bay then the Ls 17 heads

05/13/2016, 04:44 PM	#1748
scuzy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 6,499	i think LS 17 is the thickness of the tubing ?

05/13/2016, 05:07 PM	#1749
Bpb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 3,148	My Masterflex came with a pump head that doesn't accept ls 17 tubing, so I use ls 15 performance tubing which is insanely thick. I feel like the tube thickness is equal to the inner diameter if that makes sense. Came with adaptors that connect perfectly with our standard 1/4" airline tubing so I'm going to roll with it. I've got 3-4 feet of spare tubing so it should suffice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05/13/2016, 06:13 PM	#1750
dendrite Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: denver Posts: 493	Is there any advantage to using the thinner walled LS 17 rather than Ls 24 then, such as increased pump life or increased head or roller life?