anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 78

mhurley · 03/29/2013, 10:15 PM

Just a reminder and as I have seen mentioned. Linking to EBay or other selling sites is not allowed. Whether or not you are just "helping out" other reefers.

good_reefer · 03/30/2013, 12:33 AM

I bought 2 jebo wp40's a and neither came with light sensors .... can someone confirm that they are supposed to come with 2 light sensors each???
I have left them an email .. but haven't heard back yet ....

My fish are swimming a marathon 24/7

edgey · 03/30/2013, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dartier

The factory controller varies the 5V analog signal it provides on the VA line to adjust the speed. The pump actually stops at 2V and is at max speed at 5V. So it has about 3V of useful adjustment.

Dennis

This probably can't work because it seems too easy, but I have to ask.

Could a pot be installed on the 5V line to control speed?

nunodinis · 03/30/2013, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgey

This probably can't work because it seems too easy, but I have to ask.

Could a pot be installed on the 5V line to control speed?

It does work. Its as simple as that mine worked with a 24v power suply and a 3v battery in the va line. It is in fact that simple.

amutti · 03/30/2013, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkks

Does anyone have thoughts on how this would function in a 150DD (basically 36" square)? Reading through this thread it seems most people are running them across at least a 48" side. I would love to replace some of the assortment of mix and match power heads with a single solution but I am guessing this would just be too forceful if it only has 36" it can flow.

You should have no problem. I'm running it on my 120 cube (30"x30"x31") on else mode with no mod and its not nearly too strong. I have never been able to get more than a small "wave" going in any of the modes, but it does provide good flow. I think the height of the tank makes a big difference. I have mine mounted about 24" deep.

edgey · 03/30/2013, 05:32 AM

Thanks nuno, has that already been mentioned and I missed it? Lucky guess on my part. Anyway, how would the size of the pot be determined? Does the controller send the 5V line through a resistor for low? If so, could the value of that resistor tell us what size pot to use?

I know very little about electronics, but I can solder. Adding a pot seems like the way to go. I can't imagine why the manufacturer didn't put in a pot for speed control.

Am I correct to assume there would be no worries adding a pot to the 5V line? It's been mentioned that some ways of speed control might heat things up and damage the pump.

michaelangello · 03/30/2013, 07:02 AM

Hi guys just seeing if anyone can help me here. Im building a new 4x2x2 foot tank and was going tovget two of these babies and connect them to my controller which is a profilux 3. Can anyone st me on the right path to connecting them to it. Ive seen a pwm on ebay I could use. Would I then connect this to one of the 0-10v ports on the back of the profilux?

SteelerMike · 03/30/2013, 07:09 AM

So, I've had mine in my 125 for 4 days and I really like it. My only complaint is the night sensor. It worked fine for a few days but now does nothing regardless of if it is light or dark. Seems like that is the one thing some people are having issues with. Not the biggest deal, but it would be a nice feature if it worked better.

Ron Reefman · 03/30/2013, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerMike

So, I've had mine in my 125 for 4 days and I really like it. My only complaint is the night sensor. It worked fine for a few days but now does nothing regardless of if it is light or dark. Seems like that is the one thing some people are having issues with. Not the biggest deal, but it would be a nice feature if it worked better.

I agree. Jebao would have been smarter to add a speed control function and a better light sensor and charged $130 for it, heck, $165. I'd pay that difference in a heartbeat for a better product that I don't have to screw with. After all, your competition is asking what? $335 to $465? Just look at the start of this thread, everybody was asking is this just more CHEAP CHINESE JUNK? Looking at it from Jebao's point of view, the $85 price point was way too low. At $85 it's perceived as potential Chinese junk. At $165 it's seen as a low price version of the Tunze which would have been good for Jebao's brand reputation.

The answer is still out for me. I like the pump, it's quiet enough, it moves plenty of water and the pulse timing works OK. My variable output power supply controls the speed OK. But if they had added in speed control, a better light sensor and reef controller compatibility and it costs Jebao what, $25 a pump... maybe. And at $130 you have made a 50% profit margin on that $25 extra product manufacturing cost. These guys have a ways to go before they equal EverGrow as a quality Chinese led mfr.

Frode · 03/30/2013, 12:56 PM

Mine arrived today, installed it and took it out of the tank after a few hours. Way to much noice.
I checked the impeller and this part looks really cheap. It is obviously not equally sized on both sides...thats probably why it makes so much noice.

Terrance · 03/30/2013, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frode

Mine arrived today, installed it and took it out of the tank after a few hours. Way to much noice.
I checked the impeller and this part looks really cheap. It is obviously not equally sized on both sides...thats probably why it makes so much noice.

Post a video of the noise. I had the same issue when my WP40 was pointing straight ahead. Then I pointed it in another direction (off to the side), then the noise disappeared.

Sacohen · 03/30/2013, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by good_reefer

I bought 2 jebo wp40's a and neither came with light sensors .... can someone confirm that they are supposed to come with 2 light sensors each???
I have left them an email .. but haven't heard back yet ....

My fish are swimming a marathon 24/7

Yes it is supposed to come with the light sensor.
I got one with my unit.
It is very small and tucked in with the controller.
I almost threw it out because I didn't see it there.

My question is how do you install the light sensor?
Does it just get plugged into the 2 holes on the controller?
I thought I read in an earlier post by someone that you had to open the controller or something to install it.

Here is a link to a video of it running in my 55.
http://s282.photobucket.com/user/sac...2aaec.mp4.html

Ron Reefman · 03/30/2013, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacohen

My question is how do you install the light sensor?
Does it just get plugged into the 2 holes on the controller?

Yes, just push it into the holes. There is no difference which wire goes in which side.

Frode · 03/30/2013, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrance

Post a video of the noise. I had the same issue when my WP40 was pointing straight ahead. Then I pointed it in another direction (off to the side), then the noise disappeared.

I have tried many different positions and angels. In the corners the pump makes the most sound, but in no position it was silent enough. Compared to my tunzes a big difference !

Tommorow I will try again and shoot some video's

mknightryder · 03/30/2013, 05:35 PM

Mine is totally silent. If I press my ear to the magnet I can hear it ramping up and down and so forth. It's more of a vibration hum... sounds like it's playing a song!! I'm really satisfied with this pump. I'll prolly be ordering another soon. If I were to get another one and place both of them on the hydor smartwave I bought a couple months ago would that be ok? Im thinking having one on each side of the tank running by itself for awhile then having it switch to the other would help create some more randomness.

fishmanstan · 03/30/2013, 08:42 PM

Tagging along

jbaeza83 · 03/30/2013, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by good_reefer

I bought 2 jebo wp40's a and neither came with light sensors .... can someone confirm that they are supposed to come with 2 light sensors each???
I have left them an email .. but haven't heard back yet ....

My fish are swimming a marathon 24/7

The light sensors are inside the plastic bag that the controller came in. They are not installed, you need to install them yourself. Hope you didn't toss those baggies...

Sacohen · 03/31/2013, 03:42 AM

Does anyone know how much voltaget the light sensor (photo-electric cell) should be putting out?

Mine worked for 5 min and then stopped.

My lighting was never on when I instelled the cell, so it didn't overheat like they warn about.

I would get the night indicator to come on if I placed my finger over the cell, now nothing.

Also, at one point I had to apply a little pressure to the cell to get the indicator to come on, and now no response.

If think it is the controller and not the cell that has the problem/
Fish-city will not warrant it in any way.

I want to prove that it is a faulty controller and not the $1 cell.

BTW. they gave me a $5 refund for the bad power cord that they supplied on mu unit.

Ron Reefman · 03/31/2013, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacohen

Does anyone know how much voltaget the light sensor (photo-electric cell) should be putting out? Mine worked for 5 min and then stopped.

I would get the night indicator to come on if I placed my finger over the cell, now nothing.

If think it is the controller and not the cell that has the problem/
Fish-city will not warrant it in any way.

I think you mean Fish Street not Fish City. And I have less issue with the store not dealing with the warranty issue than with the manufacturer. Try contacting Jebao directly:
http://www.jebao.com/en/introduce002.html

**Warning: soapbox mode on**

And here is the problem with China that we all have to keep in mind. They are a long ways away for us to even talk to, let alone to ship defective product to. And in this case you have a Chinese store and a Chinese manufacturer.

Now in the area of led lighting, I've done a fair amount of work with EverGrow (also sold thru Reef Breeders as Photon lights). And EverGrow has bent over backwards to help out when customers have problems. They sent out complete new circuit boards at no charge and no shipping fee when some of the first buyers got IT series lights that had clocks that ran fast by 5min/hr!

I would have thought Fish Street would have a relationship with Jebao and could have helped here. Or at the VERY least, could have given you a contact at Jebao and they could could send you a new controller, or at least a new circuit board for inside. I would recommend you continue to trace down your problem and also try to find a customer service person at Jebao.
Try this site: http://www.jebao.com/en/introduce002.html
If they don't help out customers with problems, do they deserve our loyalty or complimentary words and praise as a company? And for the record, I've sent 2 emails to Jebao and they have failed to respond to either.

The WP40 seems to be working the majority of the time, maybe even the vast majority of the time. I think we all had concerns about the quality of these pumps and Jebao, the manufacturer, back when this thread started. And I was one of the first to give it a try and it's worked well for me so far... but that's only 6 weeks! The whole unit is kind of cheaply put together, but then so are a lot of expensive pumps and other aquarium hardware, so for now I'm reasonably happy with the pump. Besides, what do you expect from an $85 pump and controller that is the only low price competition for a $335 Tunze or $465 MP40? But a few bad pumps and poor customer service will have them in serious trouble in terms of customer feedback here on RC. If they don't follow thru and provide basic warranty help, they don't deserve our even buying the pumps in the first place.

Come on Jebao, step up to the plate and be a good member of the Chinese manufacturing community. Stand behind your warranty and do the right thing. Just look at the Chinese led thread and see the huge amount of praise EverGrow gets compared to Tao-Tronics, or SunSun or a handful of other CHEAP Chinese manufacturers. Or you can do nothing and risk going down in flames like so many other Chinese junk manufacturers.

Just my personal opinion.

**Soapbox mode off**

Sacohen · 03/31/2013, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

I think you mean Fish Street not Fish City. And I have less issue with the store not dealing with the warranty issue than with the manufacturer. Try contacting Jebao directly:
http://www.jebao.com/en/introduce002.html

You are correct I did mean Fish-Street, it was early and I was tired when I wrote that.

BTW I totally agree with your soapbox statement. I'm going to try writing to Jebao directly now.

Thanks.

Ron Reefman · 03/31/2013, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacohen

You are correct I did mean Fish-Street, it was early and I was tired when I wrote that.

BTW I totally agree with your soapbox statement. I'm going to try writing to Jebao directly now.

Thanks.

Good luck and please keep us informed about your situation. I'm hoping they treat you well... but even US companies can be idiots when it comes to customer service and warranties.

Unfortunately some Chinese manufacturers seem to be even worse.

Sacohen · 03/31/2013, 07:18 AM

No problem. I want to inform everyone that is purchasing this item what kind of support them are to expect.

Interesting thing is I went into the tank room this morning and shined and LED flashlight on the controller to see what something was labeled and when I did that it went into Night mode and stayed there (which is correct because the tank lights are not on yet).

I sent them a very nice e-mail so we'll see what they have to say.

tphill · 03/31/2013, 07:32 AM

Got an e-mail saying my package was shipped today. I did a pre-order Thursday for 2.

adam1103 · 03/31/2013, 10:08 AM

So I got my pump yesterday. It was very unexpected since I never received an email saying it had shipped. It was a great surprise! So I got it installed and was expecting a tidal surge in my 90 gallon tank. It's defiantly moving some water I have about a half inch wave. But to be honest I was really expecting a lot more water movement. I actually had to keep one of my koralia 1400 in to help with some uncovered areas. I'm running the wp40 on 24volts. I ran through all the settings and and tested out the night mode. That was really my only major disappointment about this unit. In complete darkness the sensor doesn't come on and never goes into night mode. So I guess my next step is going to be to get this thing hooked up to my Apex and see what I can do with it.

Frode · 03/31/2013, 10:44 AM

Here is a video of my testing of a Jebao WP-40 wave maker vs my Tunze nano electronic 6055 and 6095 and stream 6065.

In my opinion the WP40 wins on wave action, but the Tunze win overall by making much less noise.

http://youtu.be/jhdsxOxXONs

03/29/2013, 10:15 PM	#1926
mhurley RC Staff Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Illinois'ish Posts: 38,805	Just a reminder and as I have seen mentioned. Linking to EBay or other selling sites is not allowed. Whether or not you are just "helping out" other reefers. __________________ Mike Current Tank Info: 60G Cube

03/30/2013, 12:33 AM	#1927
good_reefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 116	missing light sensor I bought 2 jebo wp40's a and neither came with light sensors .... can someone confirm that they are supposed to come with 2 light sensors each??? I have left them an email .. but haven't heard back yet .... My fish are swimming a marathon 24/7

03/30/2013, 12:56 PM	#1935
Frode Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 73	Mine arrived today, installed it and took it out of the tank after a few hours. Way to much noice. I checked the impeller and this part looks really cheap. It is obviously not equally sized on both sides...thats probably why it makes so much noice. __________________ Greetings, Frode Current Tank Info: Sps dominated 110x70x70(65wh) cm, 450L. 3x Razor 120w 10.000 K. Tunze 6065, 6055, 6095.

03/31/2013, 07:32 AM	#1948
tphill Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alabama Posts: 82	Got an e-mail saying my package was shipped today. I did a pre-order Thursday for 2. __________________ 38g w/zoas, palys and LPS 75g soft coral dominated A 90G and a 100G in the works

03/31/2013, 10:44 AM	#1950
Frode Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 73	Here is a video of my testing of a Jebao WP-40 wave maker vs my Tunze nano electronic 6055 and 6095 and stream 6065. In my opinion the WP40 wins on wave action, but the Tunze win overall by making much less noise. http://youtu.be/jhdsxOxXONs __________________ Greetings, Frode Current Tank Info: Sps dominated 110x70x70(65wh) cm, 450L. 3x Razor 120w 10.000 K. Tunze 6065, 6055, 6095.

03/30/2013, 05:32 AM	#1931
edgey Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 37	Thanks nuno, has that already been mentioned and I missed it? Lucky guess on my part. Anyway, how would the size of the pot be determined? Does the controller send the 5V line through a resistor for low? If so, could the value of that resistor tell us what size pot to use? I know very little about electronics, but I can solder. Adding a pot seems like the way to go. I can't imagine why the manufacturer didn't put in a pot for speed control. Am I correct to assume there would be no worries adding a pot to the 5V line? It's been mentioned that some ways of speed control might heat things up and damage the pump.

03/30/2013, 07:02 AM	#1932
michaelangello Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 32	Hi guys just seeing if anyone can help me here. Im building a new 4x2x2 foot tank and was going tovget two of these babies and connect them to my controller which is a profilux 3. Can anyone st me on the right path to connecting them to it. Ive seen a pwm on ebay I could use. Would I then connect this to one of the 0-10v ports on the back of the profilux?

03/30/2013, 07:09 AM	#1933
SteelerMike Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 558	So, I've had mine in my 125 for 4 days and I really like it. My only complaint is the night sensor. It worked fine for a few days but now does nothing regardless of if it is light or dark. Seems like that is the one thing some people are having issues with. Not the biggest deal, but it would be a nice feature if it worked better.

03/30/2013, 05:35 PM	#1940
mknightryder Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Albany, Louisiana Posts: 35	Mine is totally silent. If I press my ear to the magnet I can hear it ramping up and down and so forth. It's more of a vibration hum... sounds like it's playing a song!! I'm really satisfied with this pump. I'll prolly be ordering another soon. If I were to get another one and place both of them on the hydor smartwave I bought a couple months ago would that be ok? Im thinking having one on each side of the tank running by itself for awhile then having it switch to the other would help create some more randomness.

03/30/2013, 08:42 PM	#1941
fishmanstan Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: U.S. Posts: 734	Tagging along

03/31/2013, 03:42 AM	#1943
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	Does anyone know how much voltaget the light sensor (photo-electric cell) should be putting out? Mine worked for 5 min and then stopped. My lighting was never on when I instelled the cell, so it didn't overheat like they warn about. I would get the night indicator to come on if I placed my finger over the cell, now nothing. Also, at one point I had to apply a little pressure to the cell to get the indicator to come on, and now no response. If think it is the controller and not the cell that has the problem/ Fish-city will not warrant it in any way. I want to prove that it is a faulty controller and not the $1 cell. BTW. they gave me a $5 refund for the bad power cord that they supplied on mu unit.

03/31/2013, 07:18 AM	#1947
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	No problem. I want to inform everyone that is purchasing this item what kind of support them are to expect. Interesting thing is I went into the tank room this morning and shined and LED flashlight on the controller to see what something was labeled and when I did that it went into Night mode and stayed there (which is correct because the tank lights are not on yet). I sent them a very nice e-mail so we'll see what they have to say.

03/31/2013, 10:08 AM	#1949
adam1103 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 75	So I got my pump yesterday. It was very unexpected since I never received an email saying it had shipped. It was a great surprise! So I got it installed and was expecting a tidal surge in my 90 gallon tank. It's defiantly moving some water I have about a half inch wave. But to be honest I was really expecting a lot more water movement. I actually had to keep one of my koralia 1400 in to help with some uncovered areas. I'm running the wp40 on 24volts. I ran through all the settings and and tested out the night mode. That was really my only major disappointment about this unit. In complete darkness the sensor doesn't come on and never goes into night mode. So I guess my next step is going to be to get this thing hooked up to my Apex and see what I can do with it.