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Unread 09/14/2012, 03:49 PM   #176
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Thinking about a 5000 for my setup. 90g DT with Durso, 30g sump/fuge, GFO reactor, Chiller, carbon reactor down the line.

I'd love to get rid of my fleet of MJ's powering everything, and a QO 4000 running the DT, have about 5' of head.


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Unread 09/16/2012, 12:08 AM   #177
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5000 or 7000 ????

I'm stuck in the middle of a wb 5000 and 7000

200 gal 60x30x28 display tank
30 gal display fuge
20 gal sump

need to run at least 3 reactors off the return Water Blaster pump

NOT really into a high flow sump, 5x turnover is good with me

4' of head pressure on return

PLEASE help, 5000 or 7000 for this setup?!


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Unread 09/16/2012, 04:27 PM   #178
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I own an external xp5000 cone skimmer. It has this pump, first version would eventually cease up and expand the shaft requiring replacement which they did, since it came with a 3 year warranty. After 2 pumps being replaced, I was told they changed the model and sent out a newer version. Which is the one that is being discussed here. This version will cease up much more frequently but it would NOT expand the shaft allowing one to clean it in vinegar and resume use. The problem is it will cease up with normal calcium and alk levels at a rate of once every 3 weeks. It requires draining the skimmer, removing the pump, opening the impeller housing and gingerly prying the shaft out. I managed to do this about 6 times and the 7th was too much on the shaft. It broke.... Not sure which model is worse, but in my opinion, it's still Chinese crap.


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Unread 09/16/2012, 05:18 PM   #179
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I'm stuck in the middle of a wb 5000 and 7000

200 gal 60x30x28 display tank
30 gal display fuge
20 gal sump

need to run at least 3 reactors off the return Water Blaster pump

NOT really into a high flow sump, 5x turnover is good with me

4' of head pressure on return

PLEASE help, 5000 or 7000 for this setup?!
I just stated up my 125. I have about 3' of head pressure plus several tee's and it returns to the tank through 4 sea swirls. I used the HY5000 and it's perfect. You can barely see the water moving in the sump. I'm no expert on this, but it just seems like a perfect fit to me. It's also very quite.


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Unread 10/05/2012, 11:16 PM   #180
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Hy5000 and bubble blaster rusty pumps

I have both of these pumps and both have rusty collets and screws. Returned them for new ones and they came new rusty!!! Last time they sent me a replacement pump it never made it in my home. Fedex said they shipped to my door but i never signed for it so coral view wont send me another pump. Should of bought ehime compact.less problems. And by the way you half to pay for return shipping 20 each time have a back up it takes 3 weeks.


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Unread 10/23/2012, 04:59 PM   #181
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Hi all, so how have the water blasters been holding up. I am replacing a 2 year old Eheim 1262 with an HY-5000. Will also have it running my carbon and phosphate reactors and getting rid of two small pumps. Anyone running into any problems after running them for awhile?


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Unread 10/23/2012, 06:09 PM   #182
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ive been running the 7000 for one year now ,nock on wood no issues.i need to disassemble and have a look for any wear

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Unread 10/24/2012, 12:33 PM   #183
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ive been running the 7000 for one year now ,nock on wood no issues.i need to disassemble and have a look for any wear

vic
same here for 1.5 years. No issues and I have only cleaned it once. I did have an issue with rusting screws since mine is submerged


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Unread 10/24/2012, 12:55 PM   #184
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if my screws are rusty then ill flip them over to stainless screws

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Unread 10/24/2012, 01:16 PM   #185
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if my screws are rusty then ill flip them over to stainless screws

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I contacted them and they sent replacements


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Unread 10/24/2012, 02:27 PM   #186
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I contacted them and they sent replacements
were the replaced screws stainless steel or zinc coated


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Unread 10/24/2012, 02:32 PM   #187
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were the replaced screws stainless steel or zinc coated
no idea, came in an unlabeled baggie and I haven't pulled the pump out of the sump since I replaced them


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Unread 10/24/2012, 05:57 PM   #188
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next time you pull them apart.
stainless is non magnetic


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Unread 11/29/2012, 01:39 PM   #189
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HY 10000 Enough?

I'm considering ordering the HY10000 for my 180 build, but want to make sure it's enough pump for what I'm asking it to do.

DT is (obviously) a 180, and I will be running a basement sump/fuge. The head will be about 12 feet (+/-) and I'd like to split my return to accommodate 2 1" sea swirls.

Water movement in DT will be further augmented by several Tunze 6085s.

Should there be enough flow, I'd like to manifold the output of the 10000 to also run two BRS media reactors. Skimmer has its own pump, though I may want to plumb in a calcium reactor sometime in the future.

Anyway. Thoughts? Admonishments?

Thanks in advance!!!


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Unread 11/29/2012, 01:44 PM   #190
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I'm considering ordering the HY10000 for my 180 build, but want to make sure it's enough pump for what I'm asking it to do.

DT is (obviously) a 180, and I will be running a basement sump/fuge. The head will be about 12 feet (+/-) and I'd like to split my return to accommodate 2 1" sea swirls.

Water movement in DT will be further augmented by several Tunze 6085s.

Should there be enough flow, I'd like to manifold the output of the 10000 to also run two BRS media reactors. Skimmer has its own pump, though I may want to plumb in a calcium reactor sometime in the future.

Anyway. Thoughts? Admonishments?

Thanks in advance!!!
Love my HY-7000, but for a basement sump and tank on main floor I'd look into a pressure style pump design more for that kind of back pressure.
Especially with all your manifold plans you will probably be short. Look at reeflo, iwaki, blue line, etc that can push more head.


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Unread 11/29/2012, 03:08 PM   #191
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Love my HY-7000, but for a basement sump and tank on main floor I'd look into a pressure style pump design more for that kind of back pressure.
Especially with all your manifold plans you will probably be short. Look at reeflo, iwaki, blue line, etc that can push more head.
Thanks tons for the help...much appreciated!!!


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Unread 11/29/2012, 08:10 PM   #192
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I'm considering ordering the HY10000 for my 180 build, but want to make sure it's enough pump for what I'm asking it to do.

DT is (obviously) a 180, and I will be running a basement sump/fuge. The head will be about 12 feet (+/-) and I'd like to split my return to accommodate 2 1" sea swirls.

Water movement in DT will be further augmented by several Tunze 6085s.

Should there be enough flow, I'd like to manifold the output of the 10000 to also run two BRS media reactors. Skimmer has its own pump, though I may want to plumb in a calcium reactor sometime in the future.

Anyway. Thoughts? Admonishments?

Thanks in advance!!!
I know that the previous post told you to look at pressure rated pumps instead but the HY-10000 is very different from the HY-7000, I run both on different setups.
I have a similiar setup that your trying to achieve (180g with a basement sump), and I use to run a Blueline HD40 which was loud and not a whole lot of flow for about 12~13' of head pressure.
I eventually switched all my magnetic (Iwaki, Blueline, Gen-X) and centrifigal (Reeflo Dart) pumps to Waterblasters. I have the HY-10000 feeding dual 3/4" Seaswirls from a basement sump going up at about 13' and it is also manifolded to feed my Deltec AP902 at sump level with about 700~800 gph.
All you want to do is feed a couple of media reactors besides hitting your dual 1" Seaswirls, so I would say that the pump has more then enough flow for your application.


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Unread 03/20/2013, 04:55 PM   #193
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Hey all,

Can't decide between the 5000 or 7000. 93gal display, 30 gal sump with return split to 2 reactors. Sump will be in basement with about 7' to 8' head. I would like about 7x flow in display. I'd rather have to throttle the pump back then have too little. Thoughts?


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Unread 03/20/2013, 05:01 PM   #194
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I remember theres a graph chart that tells how many gph at whatever feet of headloss.

I think my hy-7000 is 1100-1200gph at 5ft headloss. I'm sure you will need at least the hy-7000 at 7-8ft headloss plus reactors.


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Unread 03/20/2013, 07:32 PM   #195
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Hey all,

Can't decide between the 5000 or 7000. 93gal display, 30 gal sump with return split to 2 reactors. Sump will be in basement with about 7' to 8' head. I would like about 7x flow in display. I'd rather have to throttle the pump back then have too little. Thoughts?
5000....but if you'd rather throttle back...7000 it is.

I have a 7000 for a 250G dt ~20' horizntal run and 5' up, 100g frag tank ~ 3.5' vertical, and feeding a carbon reactor. I can use a little more and may upgrade to the 10,000 so I can also feed my skimmer.

Id say I am getting maybe ~ 700gph DT, 100gph Frag and 30gph carbon.....

also why so much flow thru DT.. only need like 300-500gph at most. DO you have large overflows and drains fro the extra flow?


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Unread 03/20/2013, 08:40 PM   #196
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I've always figure that 5 to 7x through the display is what you were suppose to aim for. If I only need 300gph like you suggest then the 5000 should be more than sufficient.

As for drains I'm running a herbie with 1.5 drains. Even if I get a 5000 I'll still have a ball valve on it invade I need to turn it back a bit. Jilt would hate to have to turn it back so much if I got a 7000.


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5000....but if you'd rather throttle back...7000 it is.

I have a 7000 for a 250G dt ~20' horizntal run and 5' up, 100g frag tank ~ 3.5' vertical, and feeding a carbon reactor. I can use a little more and may upgrade to the 10,000 so I can also feed my skimmer.

Id say I am getting maybe ~ 700gph DT, 100gph Frag and 30gph carbon.....

also why so much flow thru DT.. only need like 300-500gph at most. DO you have large overflows and drains fro the extra flow?



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