How to build a CO2 regulator for your calcium reactor. - Page 8

rynoe · 02/27/2015, 01:08 AM

I remember reading it but can't find where now. What Airgas regs should we be looking at. Is it the y12 and y14? Anybody know how to read their part numbers?

d2mini · 02/27/2015, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dantdodge

http://1drv.ms/1DwX3dr

Just came! This thing is a BEAST!

Same one I got.

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Originally Posted by d2mini

Are the Hoke 1300 series called Mille-Mite?
What model numbers are we looking for?

Still looking for this info.

ct_vol · 02/27/2015, 09:41 AM

Y12's are the ones I looked at and I know they're good. I'm pretty sure Y14's are good as well, but I'm only at 85% certainty. Stay away from Y11's.

Dennis~ I'll take a look at mine this weekend. It of town right now.

Jagermeister · 02/27/2015, 09:57 AM

I picked this up for my metering valve. Couldn't find the Hoke for a decent price, hopefully this one is comparable. It's a Swagelok SS-SS4-A.

What type of threads are the connections? I took this to Home Depot and it looks like it should fit a 1/4" compression, however, the threads don't match up. I'm wondering if I should have held out for the Hoke. Or did I just completely buy the wrong one?

Swagelok SS-SS4-A photo IMG_20150227_082734732_zpscluymmfq.jpg

d2mini · 02/27/2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ct_vol

Y12's are the ones I looked at and I know they're good. I'm pretty sure Y14's are good as well, but I'm only at 85% certainty. Stay away from Y11's.

Dennis~ I'll take a look at mine this weekend. It of town right now.

What i'm seeing are these...
http://catalog.circlevalve.com/viewi...te-1300-series

Jagermeister · 02/27/2015, 10:49 AM

Well, I found my answer. It appears Swagelok has their own special "Swagelok tube fittings" for connections. Luckily there are adaptors to go from swagelok to npt.

ct_vol · 02/27/2015, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JB NY

All is good now. I think that what ct_vol wrote is what must have happened. I put it back together and tried again, this time the LP gauge stared at zero and I was able to bring it up by turning the knob. Also the solenoid is working fine now too.

Thanks for all the help, this is one fine regulator now!

Glad it's working for you!

ianrwesley · 02/28/2015, 08:36 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIGH-PURITY-...item43bd088ebf

Worth $179? Looks like it's new or really good condition?

What about this one? Seems used, but not sure if it's a model number that would work. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Concoa-Dual-...item3f409359fd

ct_vol · 02/28/2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by d2mini

What i'm seeing are these...
http://catalog.circlevalve.com/viewi...te-1300-series

Part#: 1325H2B are the ones I have.

d2mini · 02/28/2015, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ct_vol

Part#: 1325H2B are the ones I have.

Thanks! So yours is 1/8" male npt on both ends.
Is that what we are ideally looking for?
Alan?

ct_vol · 02/28/2015, 10:09 PM

Mine is 1/8 male NPT and 1/8" tubing. That's why you need the B-2-TA-1-2 or B-400-R-2 adapter depending upon application.

d2mini · 02/28/2015, 10:27 PM

Just when i finally got a handle on the Cole Parmer Masterflex thread, this thread is throwing me for a loop.

ct_vol · 02/28/2015, 10:35 PM

It's really not that bad once you get all the parts. Alan did an excellent write up that is easy to follow. The PITA is all the different part manufacturers having different item numbers and adapters!

I finally broke down and got a Swagelok account. Now that I've bought my first round of parts, I figured out I could have bought most of the parts on eBay cheaper.

alanle · 03/01/2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by d2mini

Thanks! So yours is 1/8" male npt on both ends.

Is that what we are ideally looking for?

Alan?

Ideally you want to look for 1/8 npt male or female ports. 1/4 is too big but it will work. For tubing size, we use 1/4.

alanle · 03/01/2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ianrwesley

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIGH-PURITY-...item43bd088ebf

Worth $179? Looks like it's new or really good condition?

What about this one? Seems used, but not sure if it's a model number that would work. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Concoa-Dual-...item3f409359fd

Both are bad. I'll tell you why. The Concoa looks too beat up. The Victor has a 200 psi output. That's why the low pressure gauge shows 400psi. It would be hard to adjust the working pressure especially we only use 15 to 20 psi.

d2mini · 03/02/2015, 08:09 PM

I'm trying to remove the old nipple/nut so I can install the new CGA320 nipple/nut.
I can not get that sucker to budge. It's not reverse threaded, right? I'm afraid to apply too much force. Everything looks brand new and the old one has some white thread tape on it but I don't see why it would be on so tight.
Any tips???

This is the reg...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AERIFORM-COM...5/191242791837

Jagermeister · 03/02/2015, 10:13 PM

Mine was on super tight as well. I braced the regulator on the ground with my foot and used a pipe wrench to get it off.

Dapg8gt · 03/02/2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by d2mini

I'm trying to remove the old nipple/nut so I can install the new CGA320 nipple/nut.
I can not get that sucker to budge. It's not reverse threaded, right? I'm afraid to apply too much force. Everything looks brand new and the old one has some white thread tape on it but I don't see why it would be on so tight.
Any tips???

This is the reg...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AERIFORM-COM...5/191242791837

Both ones I did were the same way.. I think they use a loctite type product on them or something.. I used a bench vise and force to get it off.

Dapg8gt · 03/02/2015, 11:13 PM

Double post

d2mini · 03/03/2015, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dapg8gt

Both ones I did were the same way.. I think they use a loctite type product on them or something.. I used a bench vise and force to get it off.

I tried that last night and again this morning and even that's not working, to the point that the vice has now rounded off the nut so I can't get a good grip on it.

rEeFnWrX · 03/03/2015, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by d2mini

I tried that last night and again this morning and even that's not working, to the point that the vice has now rounded off the nut so I can't get a good grip on it.

Heat it?

d2mini · 03/03/2015, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rEeFnWrX

Heat it?

Tried that this morning, running it under scalding hot water.
Even after I got it back in the vise I was burning my hands trying to grip it and apply force to it.
Still no worky.

JB NY · 03/03/2015, 10:30 AM

Mine was on stupid tight too. I think I ended up with the regulator on the floor, a vice grip on the nut and a breaker bar on the vice grip, I held the regulator in place with my foot and pushed my weight on the breaker bar to get it to move.

ct_vol · 03/03/2015, 02:00 PM

C'mon Dennis. Put some effort into it.

dantdodge · 03/03/2015, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by d2mini

Tried that this morning, running it under scalding hot water.
Even after I got it back in the vise I was burning my hands trying to grip it and apply force to it.
Still no worky.

What if you get a little propane torch and torch the nipple and get hot to heat the lock tight or tape whatever is on there let it cool a little bit then try to break it loose.

not the reg its self just the nipple portion.

02/27/2015, 09:41 AM	#178
ct_vol Reefing On My Mind Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kempton, IL Posts: 8,083	Y12's are the ones I looked at and I know they're good. I'm pretty sure Y14's are good as well, but I'm only at 85% certainty. Stay away from Y11's. Dennis~ I'll take a look at mine this weekend. It of town right now. __________________ Randy Volunteers, Blackhawks, Titans, Cubs!!!! Current Tank Info: 185g waiting to be built, 120g SPS/Anemone Reef, 120g SCA in the works, 58g mixed reef w/ 6x39w T5, 125g grow out w/ Reef Breeders

02/28/2015, 08:36 AM	#183
ianrwesley Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 101	http://www.ebay.com/itm/HIGH-PURITY-...item43bd088ebf Worth $179? Looks like it's new or really good condition? What about this one? Seems used, but not sure if it's a model number that would work. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Concoa-Dual-...item3f409359fd Last edited by ianrwesley; 02/28/2015 at 09:02 AM.

02/28/2015, 10:09 PM	#186
ct_vol Reefing On My Mind Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kempton, IL Posts: 8,083	Mine is 1/8 male NPT and 1/8" tubing. That's why you need the B-2-TA-1-2 or B-400-R-2 adapter depending upon application. __________________ Randy Volunteers, Blackhawks, Titans, Cubs!!!! Current Tank Info: 185g waiting to be built, 120g SPS/Anemone Reef, 120g SCA in the works, 58g mixed reef w/ 6x39w T5, 125g grow out w/ Reef Breeders

02/28/2015, 10:27 PM	#187
d2mini Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 10,344	Just when i finally got a handle on the Cole Parmer Masterflex thread, this thread is throwing me for a loop. __________________ -dennis Elos Diamond 120xl \| Elos Stand \| Radion G4 Pros \| GHL Profilux Controller \| LifeReef Skimmer \| LifeReef Sump Photos taken with a Nikon D750 or Leica M.

02/28/2015, 10:35 PM	#188
ct_vol Reefing On My Mind Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kempton, IL Posts: 8,083	It's really not that bad once you get all the parts. Alan did an excellent write up that is easy to follow. The PITA is all the different part manufacturers having different item numbers and adapters! I finally broke down and got a Swagelok account. Now that I've bought my first round of parts, I figured out I could have bought most of the parts on eBay cheaper. __________________ Randy Volunteers, Blackhawks, Titans, Cubs!!!! Current Tank Info: 185g waiting to be built, 120g SPS/Anemone Reef, 120g SCA in the works, 58g mixed reef w/ 6x39w T5, 125g grow out w/ Reef Breeders

02/27/2015, 01:08 AM	#176
rynoe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Surrey BC Posts: 94	I remember reading it but can't find where now. What Airgas regs should we be looking at. Is it the y12 and y14? Anybody know how to read their part numbers?

02/27/2015, 09:57 AM	#179
Jagermeister Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,003	I picked this up for my metering valve. Couldn't find the Hoke for a decent price, hopefully this one is comparable. It's a Swagelok SS-SS4-A. What type of threads are the connections? I took this to Home Depot and it looks like it should fit a 1/4" compression, however, the threads don't match up. I'm wondering if I should have held out for the Hoke. Or did I just completely buy the wrong one?

02/27/2015, 10:49 AM	#181
Jagermeister Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,003	Well, I found my answer. It appears Swagelok has their own special "Swagelok tube fittings" for connections. Luckily there are adaptors to go from swagelok to npt.

03/02/2015, 08:09 PM	#191
d2mini Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 10,344	I'm trying to remove the old nipple/nut so I can install the new CGA320 nipple/nut. I can not get that sucker to budge. It's not reverse threaded, right? I'm afraid to apply too much force. Everything looks brand new and the old one has some white thread tape on it but I don't see why it would be on so tight. Any tips??? This is the reg... http://www.ebay.com/itm/AERIFORM-COM...5/191242791837 __________________ -dennis Elos Diamond 120xl \| Elos Stand \| Radion G4 Pros \| GHL Profilux Controller \| LifeReef Skimmer \| LifeReef Sump Photos taken with a Nikon D750 or Leica M.

03/02/2015, 10:13 PM	#192
Jagermeister Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,003	Mine was on super tight as well. I braced the regulator on the ground with my foot and used a pipe wrench to get it off.

03/02/2015, 11:13 PM	#194
Dapg8gt Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Pacifica Posts: 3,741	Double post __________________ 15 years in the hobby yet still learning every day. 280g radium lit sps flat living in my garage rent free. Current Tank Info: 105g SPS dominant euro braced powered by 4 ecotech pumps and lit by an ATI powermodule controlled by a reef angel =).

03/03/2015, 10:30 AM	#198
JB NY Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 9,207	Mine was on stupid tight too. I think I ended up with the regulator on the floor, a vice grip on the nut and a breaker bar on the vice grip, I held the regulator in place with my foot and pushed my weight on the breaker bar to get it to move. __________________ -Joe TOTM Sept 2002 \| Reefland April 2004 \| CORAL Magazine Nov 2007 Featured Tank "Coral Reef Aquarium" 2011 \| Reef Spotlight 2018 Current Tank Info: 270G SPS Tank, 140G sumps, 35G Frag Tank, Ultra Reef Akula UKS-200 Skimmer, Apex, Giesemann Spectra 3x250W MH 4x80W T5, 2xReefbrite Tech 72" Blue LED, Triton Dosing, ARID C30 Algae Reactor, Maxspect Gyre

03/03/2015, 02:00 PM	#199
ct_vol Reefing On My Mind Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kempton, IL Posts: 8,083	C'mon Dennis. Put some effort into it. __________________ Randy Volunteers, Blackhawks, Titans, Cubs!!!! Current Tank Info: 185g waiting to be built, 120g SPS/Anemone Reef, 120g SCA in the works, 58g mixed reef w/ 6x39w T5, 125g grow out w/ Reef Breeders