nitrate problems in a 75g reef - Page 8

Reefable · 09/28/2016, 02:09 PM

Following as my nitrates have always hovered at 10ppm. I haven't tried No3PO4 yet but this is a good thread to narrow down your plan of action..Thanks for the updates keelo.

Keelo · 09/28/2016, 02:12 PM

Yup your welcome so far they have stayed around 10ppm however I experimented with a new algae grow light (red and blue led light) it was a bust so my fuge was offline for a while. Hopefully this hasn't flawed anything yet. I'll keep everyone here posted I'm on week 5 of dosing. Best of luck to your nitrate issues, reefable!

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Reefable · 09/28/2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Keelo

Yup your welcome so far they have stayed around 10ppm however I experimented with a new algae grow light (red and blue led light) it was a bust so my fuge was offline for a while. Hopefully this hasn't flawed anything yet. I'll keep everyone here posted I'm on week 5 of dosing. Best of luck to your nitrate issues, reefable!

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Thank you..I am going to give it a try to the No3PO4X and inform how it goes. My phosphates are at 0.04 which is in the range. Hopefully we both are able to bring the nitrates down to at least 5ppm and keep it there.

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Keelo · 09/28/2016, 04:15 PM

Strangely enough my p04 is really low I can't pick it up on the salifert. One tip I would give you for dosing no3po4x is to go slowly and don't do the max dosage initially. I would go slow and slowly ramp it up because I went guns blazing when I got my hands on it and my tank was cloudy the next day. I understand every tank is different so you might not experience that but I would just be on the safe side and go slow.

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Reefable · 09/29/2016, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Keelo

Strangely enough my p04 is really low I can't pick it up on the salifert. One tip I would give you for dosing no3po4x is to go slowly and don't do the max dosage initially. I would go slow and slowly ramp it up because I went guns blazing when I got my hands on it and my tank was cloudy the next day. I understand every tank is different so you might not experience that but I would just be on the safe side and go slow.

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Got it yes I surely will cut the dosage to maybe half and see how it goes from there..you should try testing phosphate with Henna Ultro Low Phosphorus kit..it helps.

Keelo · 09/29/2016, 08:15 AM

Yea it's something I want to get once I end my semester in school I'll try to get one. Let me know how the no3po4 works out for you.

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Reefable · 09/30/2016, 12:51 PM

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Yea it's something I want to get once I end my semester in school I'll try to get one. Let me know how the no3po4 works out for you.

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Sure I will...

SpSChief85 · 10/01/2016, 09:43 AM

I've had nitrates hovering around 10ppm for over a year and began carbon dosing 2 months ago... I'm at 10ml vinegar a day now and havnt seen any reduction in no3... my skimmate has gotten darker and I do get the bacterial film on the glass, I have the hanna hi checker and read .00 unless I overfeed and then I see anywhere from .02 to .08 just to read .00 24 hours later, I'm losing sps slowly and believe I'm po4 limited... I think my only resort is dosing some po4 to get the nitrates down... I'm being patient but losing corals is no fun... I believe I'm po4 limited because of the lack of algae growth on the glass or rocks for that matter... the battles of reefing... always a slow painful war.

tmz · 10/01/2016, 10:20 AM

Idon't know what's going on with your corals but I'm sorry to hear it. . 10ml of 5% acetic acid vinegar is a relatively small dose for a 93 gallon tank. Most folks settle in around .4 to .6 ml per gallon. Did you mean 10ml of 80 proof vodka per chance. That would be high enough to cause the issues noted?

Are the sps paling?

I assume no gfo removers are in use .

FWIW, I've been dosing the 650 gallon system with 80ml vinegar and 36ml vodka daily for over 6 years . NO3 holds around 0.2ppm NO3 salifert with PO4 between 0.02ppm and 0.04ppm per hanah 713. REadings are am before dosing or feeding.There is no slime or visible bacterial grwoth in the displays.

Keelo · 10/05/2016, 12:38 PM

Okay well for anyone still following I believe this is week 6 of dosing and nitrates have reached zero! Confirmed by both Api and salifert test. I was dosing roughly 8ml a day.

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sil40sx · 10/05/2016, 01:04 PM

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Okay well for anyone still following I believe this is week 6 of dosing and nitrates have reached zero! Confirmed by both Api and salifert test. I was dosing roughly 8ml a day.

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Whoa, nice! I'm glad it worked out for you!

Keelo · 10/05/2016, 01:08 PM

Yea me too!! now I'm just concerned on how to determine my maintenance dose hopefully low nitrates won't affect some of my soft corals

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sil40sx · 10/05/2016, 02:35 PM

Haven't read the past couple pages, but are you using GFO now?

Keelo · 10/05/2016, 02:38 PM

No I'm not my phosphates are very low even before dosing carbon I didn't really have a phosphate issue I don't add anything to the tank besides carbon and kalk.

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Keelo · 10/05/2016, 02:39 PM

I think Red Sea mentions not use any gfo media when dosing their product

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sil40sx · 10/05/2016, 02:43 PM

Oh, I see. I was just curious.

Keelo · 10/05/2016, 04:28 PM

I cut my dose to 3ml you guys think this is good for maintenance?

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bertoni · 10/05/2016, 10:08 PM

3 ml seems reasonable for a 75g tank. I'd give it a shot.

Keelo · 10/05/2016, 10:42 PM

I'll keep you guys posted on how my tank responds to the maintenance dose. Hey bertoni how long do you think these bacterial flocks will be in my tank for ?

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bertoni · 10/06/2016, 01:50 PM

That's hard to predict. If they aren't receding in 2-3 weeks or so, I'd probably look into another approach.

Keelo · 10/06/2016, 02:08 PM

Okay sounds good. I don't have much in my display they only develop in my sump hopefully they go away soon

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Reefable · 10/07/2016, 09:43 AM

Good to know Keelo your nitrates have gone down...I am working on this as well...

Keelo · 10/07/2016, 10:04 AM

Goodluck with it I honestly think your tank won't take long since they are already low . When I started dosing my nitrates were over 40ppm within one week it brought them down to 20ppm.

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Reefable · 10/09/2016, 05:40 PM

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Goodluck with it I honestly think your tank won't take long since they are already low . When I started dosing my nitrates were over 40ppm within one week it brought them down to 20ppm.

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Apparently I took my water sample to my lfs today and the test results were not favourable at all, they came at 50ppm. So I am starting my regimen with NoPox today. I will start low and gradually go high. I have another thread going on so I will update on that thread since I don't want to hijack your thread..thanks.

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Keelo · 10/09/2016, 06:22 PM

Oh damn that sucks I would recommend you knock them down to half then start dosing as you will probably see better results by doing that.

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10/01/2016, 09:43 AM	#183
SpSChief85 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 172	I've had nitrates hovering around 10ppm for over a year and began carbon dosing 2 months ago... I'm at 10ml vinegar a day now and havnt seen any reduction in no3... my skimmate has gotten darker and I do get the bacterial film on the glass, I have the hanna hi checker and read .00 unless I overfeed and then I see anywhere from .02 to .08 just to read .00 24 hours later, I'm losing sps slowly and believe I'm po4 limited... I think my only resort is dosing some po4 to get the nitrates down... I'm being patient but losing corals is no fun... I believe I'm po4 limited because of the lack of algae growth on the glass or rocks for that matter... the battles of reefing... always a slow painful war. __________________ 93 Gallon Rimless Cube, ATI 8x24 Sunpower, Gyre 150, Mp40wes, Skimz SM203, Geo 618 CalRX, Full Apex, and lots of Sps.

10/01/2016, 10:20 AM	#184
tmz ReefKeeping Mag staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West Seneca NY Posts: 27,691	Idon't know what's going on with your corals but I'm sorry to hear it. . 10ml of 5% acetic acid vinegar is a relatively small dose for a 93 gallon tank. Most folks settle in around .4 to .6 ml per gallon. Did you mean 10ml of 80 proof vodka per chance. That would be high enough to cause the issues noted? Are the sps paling? I assume no gfo removers are in use . FWIW, I've been dosing the 650 gallon system with 80ml vinegar and 36ml vodka daily for over 6 years . NO3 holds around 0.2ppm NO3 salifert with PO4 between 0.02ppm and 0.04ppm per hanah 713. REadings are am before dosing or feeding.There is no slime or visible bacterial grwoth in the displays. __________________ Tom Current Tank Info: Tank of the Month , November 2011 : 600gal integrated system: 3 display tanks (120 g, 90g, 89g),several frag/grow out tanks, macroalgae refugia, cryptic zones. 40+ fish, seahorses, sps,lps,leathers, zoanthidae and non photosynthetic corals.

10/05/2016, 10:08 PM	#193
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	3 ml seems reasonable for a 75g tank. I'd give it a shot. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

10/06/2016, 01:50 PM	#195
bertoni RC Mod Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain View, CA, USA Posts: 88,616	That's hard to predict. If they aren't receding in 2-3 weeks or so, I'd probably look into another approach. __________________ Jonathan Bertoni

09/28/2016, 02:09 PM	#176
Reefable Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 213	Following as my nitrates have always hovered at 10ppm. I haven't tried No3PO4 yet but this is a good thread to narrow down your plan of action..Thanks for the updates keelo.

09/28/2016, 02:12 PM	#177
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Yup your welcome so far they have stayed around 10ppm however I experimented with a new algae grow light (red and blue led light) it was a bust so my fuge was offline for a while. Hopefully this hasn't flawed anything yet. I'll keep everyone here posted I'm on week 5 of dosing. Best of luck to your nitrate issues, reefable! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09/28/2016, 04:15 PM	#179
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Strangely enough my p04 is really low I can't pick it up on the salifert. One tip I would give you for dosing no3po4x is to go slowly and don't do the max dosage initially. I would go slow and slowly ramp it up because I went guns blazing when I got my hands on it and my tank was cloudy the next day. I understand every tank is different so you might not experience that but I would just be on the safe side and go slow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09/29/2016, 08:15 AM	#181
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Yea it's something I want to get once I end my semester in school I'll try to get one. Let me know how the no3po4 works out for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/05/2016, 12:38 PM	#185
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Okay well for anyone still following I believe this is week 6 of dosing and nitrates have reached zero! Confirmed by both Api and salifert test. I was dosing roughly 8ml a day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/05/2016, 01:08 PM	#187
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Yea me too!! now I'm just concerned on how to determine my maintenance dose hopefully low nitrates won't affect some of my soft corals Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/05/2016, 02:35 PM	#188
sil40sx Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 686	Haven't read the past couple pages, but are you using GFO now?

10/05/2016, 02:38 PM	#189
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	No I'm not my phosphates are very low even before dosing carbon I didn't really have a phosphate issue I don't add anything to the tank besides carbon and kalk. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/05/2016, 02:39 PM	#190
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	I think Red Sea mentions not use any gfo media when dosing their product Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/05/2016, 02:43 PM	#191
sil40sx Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 686	Oh, I see. I was just curious.

10/05/2016, 04:28 PM	#192
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	I cut my dose to 3ml you guys think this is good for maintenance? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/05/2016, 10:42 PM	#194
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	I'll keep you guys posted on how my tank responds to the maintenance dose. Hey bertoni how long do you think these bacterial flocks will be in my tank for ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/06/2016, 02:08 PM	#196
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Okay sounds good. I don't have much in my display they only develop in my sump hopefully they go away soon Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/07/2016, 09:43 AM	#197
Reefable Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 213	Good to know Keelo your nitrates have gone down...I am working on this as well...

10/07/2016, 10:04 AM	#198
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Goodluck with it I honestly think your tank won't take long since they are already low . When I started dosing my nitrates were over 40ppm within one week it brought them down to 20ppm. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/09/2016, 06:22 PM	#200
Keelo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: So cal Posts: 299	Oh damn that sucks I would recommend you knock them down to half then start dosing as you will probably see better results by doing that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk