Pictures of Bomber's barebottom SPS tank and related equipment - Page 8

Kitzo · 01/30/2004, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bomber
Someone drag that old thread up from Dec 2001 for Kitzo.

I searched your name and on page 13 was Dec. 2001.
I could not find the post stating the name of the coral.
I would be happy to search again...oooooorrrrr you could just tell me.

Bomber · 01/30/2004, 06:52 AM

I think it was the TOTM thread.

This one is back on track, I'm not going to de-rail it again.

Mojoreef · 01/30/2004, 07:48 AM

Hey Bomber I am to lasy to go back through the thread again, was thier a reason for the corraline not being all over, is it the two large Urchins??

The BB on my tank on lasted for a very short time (2-3 weeks) before it was encrusted with the corraline, now its layer over layer of it now, very thick.

Mike

Flanders · 01/30/2004, 08:40 AM

Quote:

This one is back on track, I'm not going to de-rail it again.

This thread is about your barebottom sps tank, and IDing one of your sps corals would de-rail it?

I don't get that. I'd like to know what type of coral that is too.

Bomber · 01/30/2004, 08:47 AM

Fleanders, it's A cerv of course. Don't you know that? You've been around long enough to have seen all the threads here on RC about it.

Mike, Doug and Red feast on it.

Flanders · 01/30/2004, 09:07 AM

I can't really recall seeing a thread about it specifically, just pictures. It's beautiful anyway.

Your tank is coming along nicely. Sorry for the off-topic, lol.

Bomber · 01/30/2004, 09:12 AM

I'm just getting gun shy, don't pay any attention to me. My in-laws just left yesterday - after being here for days - and I'm going through post traumatic shock!
That and the EPA, Core, and DOI are gunning for me with this whole "Everglades Restoration Project" right now.

joedelt · 01/30/2004, 09:30 AM

becides, for all you know, i might find some new tangent to run off on

winnham · 01/30/2004, 10:34 AM

Beautiful tank! What do you use for that thin layer of sand at the bottom? Is it CC?

MiddletonMark · 01/30/2004, 10:38 AM

The white on the bottom is starboard, a form of plastic sorta like cutting boards.

This protects the glass from rock falls ... but doesn't let detritus get into it and won't be blown around by his massive flow that's in that tank.

Flatlander · 01/30/2004, 12:05 PM

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Mike, Doug and Red feast on it.

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What the hey did I eat now.

Bomber · 01/30/2004, 01:57 PM

I think we need to explain this.

Many, many, many, many, many years ago I got a very small baby urchin for the tank. I named it after Doug. Doug in turn designed a avatar which was a picture of himself with spines coming all out of his head and the rest is history.

I've been stuck with both of them ever since.

photobarry · 01/30/2004, 02:01 PM

ROTFLMAO Ha ha ha!

Bomber · 01/31/2004, 06:20 AM

I'm pumping this up so Big Doug will see it.

MarkM3 · 02/05/2004, 02:13 PM

tagging along

aquamanathome · 02/23/2004, 06:02 PM

Bomber,
When setting up this kind of system does the tank even cycle? If everything is removed directly from the water column you would think that as soon as the tank is set up it could be stocked right away. No biological system to get going.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

Bomber · 02/23/2004, 06:14 PM

Shhhh

You're the only person that caught that. I tore the old system down, put in the new rocks, put back all the fish and corals in one day. No cycle.

The one thing I did do was cook the new rocks in very low light for about two months ahead of time to be sure there was no more die-off and they had stopped producing bacterial detritus.

It's the rocks that cause the problems.

aquamanathome · 02/23/2004, 06:58 PM

Can you reuse rocks from an old tank? I set up my tanks about 8 months ago when we moved into our new house. Not knowing any better or even about RC at the time I used about an inch of very coarse crushed shells from the beach here in Stuart. I have been planing a change since I found your first thread and have read them all from start to finish. I need to be able to make the move in one day as I will be using the same equiptment and have several critters that I collected myself the I want to keep. Thanks Chuck
also, I will be plumbing the two tanks together into one system

Zoom · 02/23/2004, 09:00 PM

After i cook some of my 8 years old rock for two months the rock looks better than when i got it new.

joefish · 02/23/2004, 09:07 PM

What and how do you mean cook the L/R ?

MiddletonMark · 02/23/2004, 09:15 PM

Meaning you get a big pot to a boil, add some cayenne, and ...

oh wait - LR.

I think he means to put it somewhere with no or very low light, plenty of circulation in clean water ... and let the bacterial turgor work all the detritus/etc/itself slowly out of the rock. Essentially provide a `clean' system so that the rock can lose any detritus/etc in it and work itself clean.

I'd doubt you'd run any substrate in it, likely certainly zero critters/fish/etc ... you want to let the rock quit accumulating stuff and have the bacteria work what's in there out.

Or so my take on what I've read of Bomber's methods is.

Unsure on whether one would skim the tank [maybe, probably doesn't hurt] ... but will also combat any algae/etc - as you're letting it eat out all it's food source, let nutrients essentially drop to just about zero.

Unsure on water changes too, almost suspecting that you might not want any [or many] ... but maybe that's from that thread that just resurfaced today

But I'm betting at least you'd want to siphon out whatever detritus came off the rock - why not IMO?

Bomber · 02/26/2004, 07:23 PM

Here's what I do.

I scrub and clean the rock as good as I can, getting as much detritus out as I can by dunking, swishing, and draining.
I put it in a RubberMaid 70gal trough in new water in low light and let it sit with a power head.
When I see detritus building up in the bottom, I dunk, swish, and drain it to get as much detritus out again - and move it to a new tub of water.
Repeat until you have very little if any detritus production.

It's important that you don't give it a lot of light. You want it bacterial driven not algae driven.

joefish · 02/26/2004, 07:56 PM

Thanks Guys

Bomber · 02/27/2004, 06:42 AM

wyang76 · 05/17/2004, 06:25 PM

tagging along

01/30/2004, 06:52 AM	#177
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	I think it was the TOTM thread. This one is back on track, I'm not going to de-rail it again. Last edited by Bomber; 01/30/2004 at 07:16 AM.

01/30/2004, 09:07 AM	#181
Flanders Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 3,592	I can't really recall seeing a thread about it specifically, just pictures. It's beautiful anyway. Your tank is coming along nicely. Sorry for the off-topic, lol. __________________ Insert witty phrase, followed by explosive laughter Current Tank Info: 75 gallon reef, two 175-watt MH, two vho actinic

01/30/2004, 10:38 AM	#185
MiddletonMark Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 14,441	The white on the bottom is starboard, a form of plastic sorta like cutting boards. This protects the glass from rock falls ... but doesn't let detritus get into it and won't be blown around by his massive flow that's in that tank. __________________ read a lot, think for yourself Current Tank Info: 58g stony reef [250w10k, 250w 20k MH, 2x vho act, Octopus150, 6060 + 6000] ; 60g mixed tub

01/30/2004, 02:01 PM	#188
photobarry Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 2,381	ROTFLMAO Ha ha ha! __________________ -Barry "smart people win debates, stupid people win shouting matches" -skippy Current Tank Info: 90g Urchin rearrangement experiment

02/23/2004, 09:00 PM	#194
Zoom Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: S.N.J Posts: 5,706	Bomber After i cook some of my 8 years old rock for two months the rock looks better than when i got it new.

01/30/2004, 07:48 AM	#178
Mojoreef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 745	Hey Bomber I am to lasy to go back through the thread again, was thier a reason for the corraline not being all over, is it the two large Urchins?? The BB on my tank on lasted for a very short time (2-3 weeks) before it was encrusted with the corraline, now its layer over layer of it now, very thick. Mike

01/30/2004, 08:47 AM	#180
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Fleanders, it's A cerv of course. Don't you know that? You've been around long enough to have seen all the threads here on RC about it. Mike, Doug and Red feast on it.

01/30/2004, 09:12 AM	#182
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	I'm just getting gun shy, don't pay any attention to me. My in-laws just left yesterday - after being here for days - and I'm going through post traumatic shock! That and the EPA, Core, and DOI are gunning for me with this whole "Everglades Restoration Project" right now.

01/30/2004, 09:30 AM	#183
joedelt Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lainsgburg, MI Posts: 717	becides, for all you know, i might find some new tangent to run off on

01/30/2004, 10:34 AM	#184
winnham Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 122	Beautiful tank! What do you use for that thin layer of sand at the bottom? Is it CC?

01/30/2004, 01:57 PM	#187
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	I think we need to explain this. Many, many, many, many, many years ago I got a very small baby urchin for the tank. I named it after Doug. Doug in turn designed a avatar which was a picture of himself with spines coming all out of his head and the rest is history. I've been stuck with both of them ever since.

01/31/2004, 06:20 AM	#189
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	I'm pumping this up so Big Doug will see it.

02/05/2004, 02:13 PM	#190
MarkM3 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 402	tagging along

02/23/2004, 06:02 PM	#191
aquamanathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stuart Posts: 264	Bomber, When setting up this kind of system does the tank even cycle? If everything is removed directly from the water column you would think that as soon as the tank is set up it could be stocked right away. No biological system to get going. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

02/23/2004, 06:14 PM	#192
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Shhhh You're the only person that caught that. I tore the old system down, put in the new rocks, put back all the fish and corals in one day. No cycle. The one thing I did do was cook the new rocks in very low light for about two months ahead of time to be sure there was no more die-off and they had stopped producing bacterial detritus. It's the rocks that cause the problems.

02/23/2004, 06:58 PM	#193
aquamanathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stuart Posts: 264	Can you reuse rocks from an old tank? I set up my tanks about 8 months ago when we moved into our new house. Not knowing any better or even about RC at the time I used about an inch of very coarse crushed shells from the beach here in Stuart. I have been planing a change since I found your first thread and have read them all from start to finish. I need to be able to make the move in one day as I will be using the same equiptment and have several critters that I collected myself the I want to keep. Thanks Chuck also, I will be plumbing the two tanks together into one system

02/23/2004, 09:07 PM	#195
joefish Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,757	What and how do you mean cook the L/R ?

02/23/2004, 09:15 PM	#196
MiddletonMark Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 14,441	Meaning you get a big pot to a boil, add some cayenne, and ... oh wait - LR. I think he means to put it somewhere with no or very low light, plenty of circulation in clean water ... and let the bacterial turgor work all the detritus/etc/itself slowly out of the rock. Essentially provide a `clean' system so that the rock can lose any detritus/etc in it and work itself clean. I'd doubt you'd run any substrate in it, likely certainly zero critters/fish/etc ... you want to let the rock quit accumulating stuff and have the bacteria work what's in there out. Or so my take on what I've read of Bomber's methods is. Unsure on whether one would skim the tank [maybe, probably doesn't hurt] ... but will also combat any algae/etc - as you're letting it eat out all it's food source, let nutrients essentially drop to just about zero. Unsure on water changes too, almost suspecting that you might not want any [or many] ... but maybe that's from that thread that just resurfaced today But I'm betting at least you'd want to siphon out whatever detritus came off the rock - why not IMO? __________________ read a lot, think for yourself Current Tank Info: 58g stony reef [250w10k, 250w 20k MH, 2x vho act, Octopus150, 6060 + 6000] ; 60g mixed tub

02/26/2004, 07:23 PM	#197
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Here's what I do. I scrub and clean the rock as good as I can, getting as much detritus out as I can by dunking, swishing, and draining. I put it in a RubberMaid 70gal trough in new water in low light and let it sit with a power head. When I see detritus building up in the bottom, I dunk, swish, and drain it to get as much detritus out again - and move it to a new tub of water. Repeat until you have very little if any detritus production. It's important that you don't give it a lot of light. You want it bacterial driven not algae driven.

02/26/2004, 07:56 PM	#198
joefish Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,757	Thanks Guys

02/27/2004, 06:42 AM	#199
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550

05/17/2004, 06:25 PM	#200
wyang76 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 164	tagging along