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Unread 04/07/2012, 08:46 AM   #2051
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The other wrasse I was considering was a 6 line. Any conflicts with this wrasse with this group of fish? I want an active fish and have read they are very active. Will the 6 line pick on any of the fish in my group?


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It is a red sea max, so totally enclosed. The clowns will be juveniles. How do I ensure a pair of cardinals and firefish?
No so easy. For firefish, which are normally kept at an LFS in 40 gallon tanks, look for two that hang out together. The trick, is, of course, actually netting out those two. Same issue for cardinals, but easier netting.


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Unread 04/08/2012, 09:32 AM   #2053
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The other wrasse I was considering was a 6 line. Any conflicts with this wrasse with this group of fish? I want an active fish and have read they are very active. Will the 6 line pick on any of the fish in my group?
sixline wrasses can be hyper aggressive towards other fish. I do not recommend them.


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Unread 04/08/2012, 09:54 AM   #2054
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ok i have a 135 gallon tank 72x18x24 and will be a FOWLR running a corallife 220g skimmer, fluval FX5, no sump, 100lbs dry rock and 20-35 lbs live rock, crushed coral,no live sand. Fish i would like are: Picasso Trigger, Dogface Puffer, Yellow Tang, Blue Hippo Tang, Jeweled Moray Eel, Cow Fish, a couple Cleaner Shrimp. Let me know how this will be. Hopefully im able.


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Unread 04/08/2012, 12:06 PM   #2055
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ok i have a 135 gallon tank 72x18x24 and will be a FOWLR running a corallife 220g skimmer, fluval FX5, no sump, 100lbs dry rock and 20-35 lbs live rock, crushed coral,no live sand. Fish i would like are: Picasso Trigger, Dogface Puffer, Yellow Tang, Blue Hippo Tang, Jeweled Moray Eel, Cow Fish, a couple Cleaner Shrimp. Let me know how this will be. Hopefully im able.
Unfortunately I do not give commentary on aggressive tanks. However that fish list is WAY overstocked as well as some fish being inappropriate for that sized tank (Hepatus tang) We do have an aggressive fish forum, however.


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Unread 04/08/2012, 01:54 PM   #2056
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Hi Steve, I posted this list earlier which you saw no issues with however, Green banded are hard to come by here, but I did see a Hector's Goby today. Could I add one to this list below? (with or without the greenbanded if i ever find them)

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1. 1 x Neon Goby (yellow if i can find one, otherwise blue)
2. (1 or 2 x) Green Banded Goby (can I qt together with the neon if I can find them at same store?)
3. 2 x TB clowns 1 true perc, 1 b&w occelaris both juvies
4. a dwarf angel, brazillian flameback if i can find one, or golden dwarf, or cherub.

In a 40g 4ft tank


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Hi Steve, I posted this list earlier which you saw no issues with however, Green banded are hard to come by here, but I did see a Hector's Goby today. Could I add one to this list below? (with or without the greenbanded if i ever find them)

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1. 1 x Neon Goby (yellow if i can find one, otherwise blue)
2. (1 or 2 x) Green Banded Goby (can I qt together with the neon if I can find them at same store?)
3. 2 x TB clowns 1 true perc, 1 b&w occelaris both juvies
4. a dwarf angel, brazillian flameback if i can find one, or golden dwarf, or cherub.

In a 40g 4ft tank
Still no problem. Yes, you can QT both gobies together given the same source.


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Unread 04/08/2012, 04:59 PM   #2058
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28 Gallon (90L). Live rock filter (8Kg present- more to be added), 3Kg sand bed. Sump, yes, chaeto- inversely lit (ie. at night) to the display with LR rubble and activated carbon

Proposed fish;

1 Black and white percula clown
1 True percula clown
2 Fire shrimp
1 Yellow goby
1 Hermit (dont know which type)
~4/5 Money cowrie
2 Nerite snails
(Poss another blenny/goby/dragonet type..)

What u guys think?


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Unread 04/08/2012, 06:47 PM   #2059
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28 Gallon (90L). Live rock filter (8Kg present- more to be added), 3Kg sand bed. Sump, yes, chaeto- inversely lit (ie. at night) to the display with LR rubble and activated carbon

Proposed fish;

1 Black and white percula clown
1 True percula clown
2 Fire shrimp
1 Yellow goby
1 Hermit (dont know which type)
~4/5 Money cowrie
2 Nerite snails
(Poss another blenny/goby/dragonet type..)

I think your stock of fish is fine except your tank cannot sustain a dragonet. My recollection is the "money cowries" are not totally reef safe (a fighting conch would be better) , and I do not recommend hermit crabs because they kill snails for their shells.

What u guys think?

Actually this is not a discussion thread since only RC Staff answer.



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Unread 04/08/2012, 06:52 PM   #2060
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How Does This Look?

Setting up a second reef tank....

Display Tank Size: 240Gal 60"Lx30"Hx30"W
Sump :250Gal 72"Lx48"Wx25"H with remote sandbed + 50 3' tall mangroves
Fuge: 75Gal
Frag Tank: 75Gal
Secondary Sump: 300Gal Rubbermaid Stock Tank filled with 1000lbs rock
Skimmer: Commercial Emperor Aquatics Dual Mazzei 96"H x 10"dia
Fluidized Bed Filter: Emperor Aquatics 96"H x 7"dia
Large Calcium Reactor

This tank is primarilly sps / clams and fish list includes:

Flame Angel
Rusty Angel ?
Bicolor Angel
Blenny
Electric Blue Damsel (5) (females)
Orange Tail Blue Damsel (1) (male)
Blue Green Chromis (7)
Black Percula Clownfish (pair)
Royal Gramma
Black Capped Basslet ?
Hippo Tang
Yellow Tang
Purple Tang
Sixline Wrasse
Bluehead Wrasse ?
OR
Lunare Wrasse ?
Cleaner Wrasse
Copperband Butterflyfish?


What do you think on the fish? I always wanted an Emperor Angel, but I don't think the tank is big enough.


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Setting up a second reef tank....

Display Tank Size: 240Gal 60"Lx30"Hx30"W
Sump :250Gal 72"Lx48"Wx25"H with remote sandbed + 50 3' tall mangroves
Fuge: 75Gal
Frag Tank: 75Gal
Secondary Sump: 300Gal Rubbermaid Stock Tank filled with 1000lbs rock
Skimmer: Commercial Emperor Aquatics Dual Mazzei 96"H x 10"dia
Fluidized Bed Filter: Emperor Aquatics 96"H x 7"dia
Large Calcium Reactor

This tank is primarilly sps / clams and fish list includes:

Flame Angel
Rusty Angel ?
Bicolor Angel
Blenny
Electric Blue Damsel (5) (females)
Orange Tail Blue Damsel (1) (male)
Blue Green Chromis (7) are unlikely to remain as a group, winnowing down to one or at most two over the long run
Black Percula Clownfish (pair)
Royal Gramma
Black Capped Basslet ?
Hippo Tang
Yellow Tang your tank may be large enough for a yellow and a purple, but they should be introduced together so one is not established and the other a "new comer"
Purple Tang
Sixline Wrasse They are aggressive
Bluehead Wrasse ?
OR
Lunare Wrasse ?
Cleaner Wrasse African cleaners tend to work, the other ones tend to die
Copperband Butterflyfish? definitely NOT clam safe


What do you think on the fish? I always wanted an Emperor Angel, but I don't think the tank is big enough.
I keep an Emperor Angel in a 350 gallon tank BUT that tank is lightly stocked (various anthias, smaller fish, etc) with no algae eaters. But you are planning a LOT of fish, your tank is going to look very busy


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Unread 04/08/2012, 08:39 PM   #2062
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I'm kind of surprised about the sixline. I've never had a problem with them. I was more concerned about the Bluehead or Lunare Wrass. Would one or both be ok and if only one, which one? As far as the chromis and blue damsels go, I have two large coral head type formations on either side of the tank and was wanting a bunch of schooling fish. Maybe I'll ditch the chromis idea and stick with the damsel school. The Copperband can stay in the 300gal rock sump. Do you think the three pygmy angels will get along? I would like at least two. Do you think this tank is too small for an Emperor or Blueface Angel? The system volume is nearly 1000gals and the filtration is several times what I would actually need, so I know everything is good there. Just wondering if the main display has enough room for a large angel.


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Unread 04/09/2012, 05:07 AM   #2063
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I'm kind of surprised about the sixline. I've never had a problem with them.

Many have had problems, thus I never recommend them

I was more concerned about the Bluehead or Lunare Wrass.

Both are aggressive. Normally one would be the maximum, although I personally would keep neither as their value relative to their level of aggression for me is not high enough. I like peaceful tanks.

Would one or both be ok and if only one, which one? As far as the chromis and blue damsels go, I have two large coral head type formations on either side of the tank and was wanting a bunch of schooling fish.

Well, neither will actually school. The chromis WILL pick off the weakest until there is one or a pair left.

Maybe I'll ditch the chromis idea and stick with the damsel school. The Copperband can stay in the 300gal rock sump.

If he is in the sump, what value does he add? These are difficult fish requiring peaceful tankmates and often perish.

Do you think the three pygmy angels will get along?

Given a large tank, there will be chasing, but probably nothing serious.

I would like at least two. Do you think this tank is too small for an Emperor or Blueface Angel? The system volume is nearly 1000gals and the filtration is several times what I would actually need, so I know everything is good there. Just wondering if the main display has enough room for a large angel.

It is not a system volume issue. As I said, I have an adult Imperator with no problem. Probably should be fine

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Unread 04/09/2012, 03:09 PM   #2064
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55gal wanna-be reef tank with a few corals/frags.

I currently have...
2 perc clowns
3 pajama cardinalfish
1 purple firefish

I was looking for a possum wrasse but haven't had luck yet so I may give up.
I am also thinking I would like to have some fish that is an Herbivore to help keep algae under control. Any recommendations?

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55gal wanna-be reef tank with a few corals/frags.

I currently have...
2 perc clowns
3 pajama cardinalfish
1 purple firefish

I was looking for a possum wrasse but haven't had luck yet so I may give up.
I am also thinking I would like to have some fish that is an Herbivore to help keep algae under control. Any recommendations?

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Possum wrasses are excellent. Unfortunately, most algae eaters are either not coral safe or too large for your tank. You might look at the blenny group, however. I personally would opt for snails and fighting conch.


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Unread 04/09/2012, 03:47 PM   #2066
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Possum wrasses are excellent. Unfortunately, most algae eaters are either not coral safe or too large for your tank. You might look at the blenny group, however. I personally would opt for snails and fighting conch.
The Starry Blenny and the Tail Spot Blenny both look good from the quick read I found on each of them. How would either of them fit in with my tank?

I am also in the market for a Fighting Conch but my LFS never seems to have any when I go. I have some hermits crabs (ya i know you dont recommend but I had them before I found this website) that seem to have control of the live rock and my snails are mostly on the glass which is annoying. Do the Fighting Conchs stay in the sand or go on the rocks too?


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The Starry Blenny and the Tail Spot Blenny both look good from the quick read I found on each of them. How would either of them fit in with my tank?

Either would work but not both

I am also in the market for a Fighting Conch but my LFS never seems to have any when I go. I have some hermits crabs (ya i know you dont recommend but I had them before I found this website) that seem to have control of the live rock and my snails are mostly on the glass which is annoying. Do the Fighting Conchs stay in the sand or go on the rocks too?
Fighting conch stay primarily on the sand.


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Stocking Question

Ok so I have a 125g...6 footer.

Here is my info...

150lbs of rock (65lbs live rock), 150lbs sand (40lbs live sand), 40 gallon sump (3 sections with refugium that has cheato), SWC 160 Extreme skimmer, BR110 reactor with biopellets, BRS dual reactor running carbon and GFO.

Current stock list...

Melanopus clown (adding mate when out of QT), Foxface, Diamond Watchman Goby and Humu Humu.

Would like to add the following Tangs...

Kole Yellow Eye
White Cheek
Convict

I would like to add two of each. This would most likely be the remainder of my fish that I add.

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Ok so I have a 125g...6 footer.

Here is my info...

150lbs of rock (65lbs live rock), 150lbs sand (40lbs live sand), 40 gallon sump (3 sections with refugium that has cheato), SWC 160 Extreme skimmer, BR110 reactor with biopellets, BRS dual reactor running carbon and GFO.

Current stock list...

Melanopus clown (adding mate when out of QT), Foxface, Diamond Watchman Goby and Humu Humu.

Would like to add the following Tangs...

Kole Yellow Eye
White Cheek
Convict

Multiple tangs of a given species rarely works, your tank size would suggest only a single tang, the best choice probably being the kole tang. A trigger will be very aggressive going forward get overly large for your sized tank, and is very likely to cause problems.

I would like to add two of each. This would most likely be the remainder of my fish that I add.

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Unread 04/10/2012, 11:41 AM   #2070
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Got a 75 g tank with 40b sump/fuge. Approx 80 lbs of rock in DT/Fug

Looking to get

2 Perc Clowns
Diamond Goby
Yellow Coris Wrasse
Lubbucki Wrasse
Male Lyretail Anthias
Foxface Lo
Ember Blenny

Potentially a pair of Esquisite wrasses


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Got a 75 g tank with 40b sump/fuge. Approx 80 lbs of rock in DT/Fug

Looking to get

2 Perc Clowns
Diamond Goby
Yellow Coris Wrasse
Lubbucki Wrasse
Male Lyretail Anthias
Foxface Lo
Ember Blenny

Potentially a pair of Esquisite wrasses
No obvious incompatibilities.


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You dont think its overstocked?


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You dont think its overstocked?
It is unquestionably on the heavy side. I personally would not have as many fish as that plan calls for


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We currently have a 125 gallon (6' long x 18" deep x 22" high) that is fully cycled, (almost 5 weeks now, no spikes in more then 2 weeks)

What we currently have:
4 emerald crabs
10 micro hermits
11 turbo snails
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 fire cleaner shrimp


We want a very colorful tank, and are hoping to add coral.

We want to start with these 3 fish:

1 Royal dottyback
1 Flame Angel
1 Coral Beauty

After that were not sure where to go:

I know my girlfriend would love to have 2 flame angels
We want at least one tang
I like the 6 line wrasse or the velvet wrasse
I also like the cardinals and royal grammas
We would also love to get 2 picasso clowns but have heard mixed reviews

Are these selections ok? And what are some other suggestions to add


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Does it work this way? I'm putting together a fish dominated 240 g. mixed reef tank - 4' x 4' x 2' deep. I know you have your favorites. What are the first 6 fish I should put on my list?


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