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Unread 06/12/2012, 11:48 AM   #2101
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2 should be great for that size tank.... And yes on 120 degree lenses.

Also I see the pics and I see you like the sound of my ratio but I see the pics id suggest going a little bit bluer. I like mine a lot but if I could redo id do a little bluer... Id do either 34 blues 17 whites 4 violets or 33 blues 18 whites 4 violets (go with the 440nm violets) not much of a diff in these ratios... I wouldnt go any less blue then 31 blue 20 whites 4 violets.... But I think either of the first 2 will be more so the look your looking for.

Do you have supplement blue your gonna be running? The reason I ask is cause I have an all blue reefbrite I use it as first light on and last light off its my "pop" light since I have this I didn't need a all blue dimmer switch with the blue windex affect so I added some whites to my blue switch to have 3 diff light looks
1.reefbrite pop affect 2.blue switch led with few whites to give a blueish look but not windex blue 3. Switch two day running at full power.

Unless you have a supplement blue to run or you don't want a windex blue look with crazy coral pop for when just your blues are on(most people want this to add to the wow affect like I do) if you fall under these two things then get some whites on your blue switch.

But if you don't have supplement blue and you do want a good pop of corals when just the blues are on....then don't get any whites on your blue switch just run the violets and the rest blue ....

If I didn't have my reef brite for my pop affect light I wouldn't have gotten any whites on my blue switch.

So say you go with 33 blues 18 whites 4 violets, if ya want and need a pop affect then go with switch one. 24 blues 4 violets switch two. 18 whites 9 blues.

If ya have a light to run already for your pop affect or ya just don't want thatwindex blue affect when just your blue switch is on then do it switch one. 20 blues 4 white 4 violets switch two. 14 whites 13 blues ...

Its all about your liking .... And yes email sam direct tell him what ya want exactly explain it very clearly lol and repeat it ten times to them to be safe and he will hook you up
Thanks for the great response.
I am building my setup now so i dont have any lighting at the moment.
I wasnt planning on running any additional lighting, just two of the D120's.

I like a little bit of blue, but i still want my sand to be white.
So a slight blue shimmer in the water with white sand is what i want.

So from your suggestions i should get:

Dimmer 1 - 24 blues 4 violets
Dimmer 2 - 18 whites - 9 blues
All with no optics to i get the 120deg spread.

With no additional lighting do you think i will be able to get that effect??
That seems like quite a bit of blues, but i guess i can dim them since most of them are on one switch. Also, do i need to specify that i want 420nm violets or just standard violets?

Again, thanks for your help in deciding my lighting setup!


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Unread 06/12/2012, 11:50 AM   #2102
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Thanks for the great response.
I am building my setup now so i dont have any lighting at the moment.
I wasnt planning on running any additional lighting, just two of the D120's.

I like a little bit of blue, but i still want my sand to be white.
So a slight blue shimmer in the water with white sand is what i want.

So from your suggestions i should get:

Dimmer 1 - 24 blues 4 violets
Dimmer 2 - 18 whites - 9 blues
All with no optics to i get the 120deg spread.

With no additional lighting do you think i will be able to get that effect??
That seems like quite a bit of blues, but i guess i can dim them since most of them are on one switch. Also, do i need to specify that i want 420nm violets or just standard violets?

Again, thanks for your help in deciding my lighting setup!
When I was just talking to hendy to set up my custom, he gave me the option of 420 or 440, he said he prefers to do 420 since 440 is so close to 460nm blue. So just make it clear to him you want no lens, 440nm violets, and which dimmer. It took me a while to explain to him before he understood...


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Unread 06/12/2012, 12:28 PM   #2103
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Don't get 1:1 blue:white if you like a 20k blue like look. 1:1 will come out to look around 12-14k. You really have to dim the whites to get a more blue look since they are so powerful.

420nm True Violets will bring out red a bit more in coral, plus it has a good amount of PAR. I'm replacing 4 of my whites with violets once the leds arrive. I may eventually add more blue too.

Thanks for the quick response bhazard! Gonna place my order today. I finally ordered my tank yesterday. 2-3 weeks ETA.


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Unread 06/12/2012, 12:51 PM   #2104
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To I high.. DONOT buy it unless the link shows YOUR RATIO YOU WANT. No offense to hendy but it seemslike he doesn't know what he is talking about at all id much rather deal with sam....

420s will be to pink I think the 440 are the way to go... They don't look blue at all.... But he should make ou a link that says what your ratio ..... And I promise you it won't be too blue at 32 blues 19 whites I bet in the end you wish ya went bluer if anything.... Mines 30 blue 21 white and I run my reefbrite with it and that has I think 18 blues in it and its still not as blue as the pics you posted so I think you'll be happiest with 34blues 17 whites imo


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To I high.. DONOT buy it unless the link shows YOUR RATIO YOU WANT. No offense to hendy but it seemslike he doesn't know what he is talking about at all id much rather deal with sam....

420s will be to pink I think the 440 are the way to go... They don't look blue at all.... But he should make ou a link that says what your ratio ..... And I promise you it won't be too blue at 32 blues 19 whites I bet in the end you wish ya went bluer if anything.... Mines 30 blue 21 white and I run my reefbrite with it and that has I think 18 blues in it and its still not as blue as the pics you posted so I think you'll be happiest with 34blues 17 whites imo
gotcha, I went ahead and emailed sam the combination and things I want. hopefully he will respond by tomorrow morning.


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Unread 06/12/2012, 01:03 PM   #2106
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To I high.. DONOT buy it unless the link shows YOUR RATIO YOU WANT. No offense to hendy but it seemslike he doesn't know what he is talking about at all id much rather deal with sam....

420s will be to pink I think the 440 are the way to go... They don't look blue at all.... But he should make ou a link that says what your ratio ..... And I promise you it won't be too blue at 32 blues 19 whites I bet in the end you wish ya went bluer if anything.... Mines 30 blue 21 white and I run my reefbrite with it and that has I think 18 blues in it and its still not as blue as the pics you posted so I think you'll be happiest with 34blues 17 whites imo
My A6 only has 18 whites, definitely not blue at all.


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Unread 06/12/2012, 01:30 PM   #2107
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Although a bit ugly, I added the Apex Lunar simulator leds to my light and they worked great. The apex turned them on according to the moon phase. It looked just like the moonlights on my old MH fixture. 2 moon lights per 24" work fine. Somewhat pricey at $80, but I think its a cool thing to have.

Once I get Apex dimming working, I'll see if I can make the blues work as a moon light. They are still too bright at their dimmest setting on the dimmer knob for moon light.


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Unread 06/12/2012, 04:10 PM   #2108
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To I high.. DONOT buy it unless the link shows YOUR RATIO YOU WANT. No offense to hendy but it seemslike he doesn't know what he is talking about at all id much rather deal with sam....

420s will be to pink I think the 440 are the way to go... They don't look blue at all.... But he should make ou a link that says what your ratio ..... And I promise you it won't be too blue at 32 blues 19 whites I bet in the end you wish ya went bluer if anything.... Mines 30 blue 21 white and I run my reefbrite with it and that has I think 18 blues in it and its still not as blue as the pics you posted so I think you'll be happiest with 34blues 17 whites imo
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My A6 only has 18 whites, definitely not blue at all.

Well damn, maybe i should up the blue some more then. I just want to make sure i have enough light coverage so there is no dark spots in the tank.

At 34blue and 17 white, if i still have no blue, maybe i should up the blue to 35 blue and 16 white. Will i lose lots of light if i start cutting out the whites?
As for the violet, i will defiantly go with the 440nm if you guys say so.


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Unread 06/12/2012, 04:33 PM   #2109
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Well it could be the difference of his unit as blues and royal blues and I think in the d120s they use all royal blues which I believe are much bluer then the reg blues.....

Tank addict what is your ratgio in your 72 led a6 unit. How many blue and how many royal blues?

I really think you'll be happy with 34 blue 17 whites our taste seems alike and mine is only 30 blues and its not bad at all its close enough to what id like but I think 34 blue and 17 whites is gonna be perfect..


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Unread 06/12/2012, 04:45 PM   #2110
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Well it could be the difference of his unit as blues and royal blues and I think in the d120s they use all royal blues which I believe are much bluer then the reg blues.....

Tank addict what is your ratgio in your 72 led a6 unit. How many blue and how many royal blues?

I really think you'll be happy with 34 blue 17 whites our taste seems alike and mine is only 30 blues and its not bad at all its close enough to what id like but I think 34 blue and 17 whites is gonna be perfect..

Awesome, thanks for the help Travis. Ill be contacting "sam" asap!

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Unread 06/12/2012, 04:50 PM   #2111
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Just make sure when ya get it look at it on your tank full power first lol

If ya go from the blue switch then kick on the full power after seeing so much blue on switch 1 it will seem not so blue to your eye lol will ruin your first impression so look at it full power first see what ya think then kick off the white switch and be in wow effect from the popage lol


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Unread 06/12/2012, 04:53 PM   #2112
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Just make sure when ya get it look at it on your tank full power first lol

If ya go from the blue switch then kick on the full power after seeing so much blue on switch 1 it will seem not so blue to your eye lol will ruin your first impression so look at it full power first see what ya think then kick off the white switch and be in wow effect from the popage lol
Haha, will do.
Ill update this thread with pics in a few weeks when i get them.


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Unread 06/12/2012, 05:12 PM   #2113
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Well it could be the difference of his unit as blues and royal blues and I think in the d120s they use all royal blues which I believe are much bluer then the reg blues.....

Tank addict what is your ratgio in your 72 led a6 unit. How many blue and how many royal blues?

I really think you'll be happy with 34 blue 17 whites our taste seems alike and mine is only 30 blues and its not bad at all its close enough to what id like but I think 34 blue and 17 whites is gonna be perfect..
Since Sam didn't put the 6 violets I wanted my ratio comes out to be
dimmer one:12B, 3UV, 33RB
dimmer two :18 whites 6RB

Pretty nice color not as blue as you would think since the whites are really strong. Right now I keep my whites at about 20% and blues about 40-45 gives it a blue + bulb look.

The blues and RB and 3 UV(not sure how much is from the uv) are amazing my reds, orange, and green pop like glow sticks. Dimm it down to 10% at night and enjoy the fireworks lol.


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just make sure when ya get it look at it on your tank full power first lol

if ya go from the blue switch then kick on the full power after seeing so much blue on switch 1 it will seem not so blue to your eye lol will ruin your first impression so look at it full power first see what ya think then kick off the white switch and be in wow effect from the popage lol
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Unread 06/12/2012, 06:56 PM   #2115
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Got one set of my 0-10v dimmable drivers today. Going to try them later.

These were express shipped, and even with the $45 extra in shipping, it still comes out to less than 4 meanwell drivers shipped would. This should be enough for running all 24 leds on a string at a near full 3w.

I really like how they labeled everything for me. Driver was adjusted to 650mah for some headroom.





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Unread 06/12/2012, 08:34 PM   #2116
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Ok... big time noob here. I am just starting to set up my tank. I've got a 90g that is 48"W x24"H x 18"D. From the top of the glass covers to the underside of the canopy it is 4". The top of the canopy is semi open construction with 2" between the three 5" boards so there is circulation, but I know the leds don't put out nearly as much heat as my other options.

I'm wondering if these would even work with my setup??? Would I be able to set them on the glass tops? I don't have any corals (tank isn't all the way set up at this point). I would like to start with some soft corals once the tank is established, and I have learned a bit more... baby steps, right? Then I would like to work my way up. My worry is that the corals will get burned if I set them so close to the water...

If I do go with these lights what is a good ratio? would two fixtures be enough?

Anyways... any advice is welcome!


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Unread 06/12/2012, 08:53 PM   #2117
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Id lose the glass tops all together they keep heat in ... Don't allow the proper gas exchange to take place.... Id consider building a new canopy to fit the tank that's a good 15" tall ... 4" just isn't enough room...... Or just do no canopy and reguardless two units will be fine....


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Hey Travis, are the violets really overpowering? I don't want a pink looking tank if I install all 6 on my A6. How does yours look?
I think the 4 in my 55 led unit is pleanty I deff wouldn't do more in an a6 then 6. That is the max id do... Do you have none in now or 3? If you have 3 in there now it may not be worth the work to just add 3 more violets esp if your happy with how it looks now. As the saying goes "don't fix something that's not broken"


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Travis - could I also ask what your timers are for the lights you have? I'm thinking about putting an order in today for 32blue-4violet-19white and I don't have any supplement lights for the "pop" effect you mentioned.

Also, I'm actually on chat with hendy right now if you guys want to jump on who needs the light.
With the lens it is a 90degrees spread, without a lens over it in theory it should be a 120degrees spread correct? He said it was 60 degrees, but I'm not sure if he understands what I'm talking about...and now he's saying the led optics are 90 degrees, with the lens its 90 degrees...so I'm at a loss. What do you guys think? just tell him don't add the 90 degrees lens?
I think your asking what the time frame on how I run my lighs? If so...

1230 pm reef brite on, 130 pm blue led switch on, 230 pm led white switch on
Full power for 7 hours
930 pm white led switch off, 1030 blue led switch off 1130 reedbrite off

I don't have mine come on till 1230 because I'm working anyway so id rather it be on late when I am home to enjoy it


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Travis: I've been waiting to pull the trigger on purchasing these and I think I'm going to go with your recommendation of the 34 Blues, 17 Whites and 4 Violets (440nm) X 3 for my 180 gallon mix reef set up.

However, since I'm so new to the game, I don't have a specific preference of what I'd like the tank to look like with regards to lighting color. I'm curious as to what the violet colors do? If there is no real significance other than personal pref? I may just get the standard blue/white ratio they offer. What do you think?
Tbh I really don't know how much of a diff the violets make ... I know to many and you'll have a purple lookin tank lol

They are for bringing out the pink orange and red colors better I think its just preference I don't think its a must to have them but I don't think it hurts to have them either.

I can't tell ya what ratio to go with cause I don't know your liking I can tell you idont care for any of there ratio too much on aliexpress the only one I've seen that's even decent is the 30 blues 25whites and I don't even really like the sound of that for my liking. I think any of these ratios would look good

34blues 17 whites 4 violets
33blues 18 whites 4 violets
31 blues 20 white 4 violets

You can always do just 2 violets and add one more white and one more blue to any of these ratios


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With my 8ft tank I can't help but wonder if two of these will do the trick:
http://houyi.en.alibaba.com/product/...time&edm_ver=e

http://houyi.en.alibaba.com/product/..._lighting.html

They look very nice with the sunrise sunset and lunar cycles.

Intelligent Cree?
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"2. Intelligent Functions

1) Infrared remote control: Different from the traditional and most new led lights, our newest intelligent led aquarium light takes the technology of infrared remote control, except the traditional manual mode by using button on panel housing side. It give our clients more choice and more convenient to operate the light.

2) For each color lighting there are 255 luminance ranges of brightness could be chosen. When those color lights are timed already, then they will light on in turn which seems so beautiful.

3) More intelligent and passive cooling systems: Our newest products are based on the theory of temperature sensor in our product then it prolong the lifespan of our products. When the temperature of LEDs reached to 60° C, it make the inside cooling fans to work. While if it is lower than 60° C, then it will not work.

4) Mimic natural sunrise and sunset of four seasons a year. And you could set the time in five modes ( 6:00am.6:30am,7:00am,7:30am and 8:00am) in different seasons which help push the growth of sea plants."
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Any thoughts on this fixture? 4ft 88 3w Cree has me very interested. Having two fixtures intstead of four would be helpful.

The digital readout and the remote control seem pretty dang awesome and they are fully customizable. LOL every couple months something better comes out. This is awesome.


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Travis - sam told me to contact hendy, but hendy keeps giving me the 26blue-4violet-25whites link...i've tried asking him to make me a custom link, but he keeps telling me to order it and leave a note for what I want...iono what to do


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Email sam directly tell him travis told me to deal only with you to make sure I get what I want exactly ask him if he can make you a direct link to the unit you want like he did for travis...

sales02@ledgrowlights.cn

Maybe since I bought mine they started this new way of doing it for custom ratios so don't get too worried see what sam says and if he has you do it that way then its fine I trust sam. Could be a new way they take the order cause after mine was ordered they redid lots of ratio idea and came up with a set fee for diy units so it may be the standard way now but check with sam first


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I think what they might be doing is having 5-6 different custom set prices, then when you want a specific order, it costs say 182.20, they link you to that one and tell you to add in the note what your order is.


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With my 8ft tank I can't help but wonder if two of these will do the trick:
http://houyi.en.alibaba.com/product/...time&edm_ver=e

http://houyi.en.alibaba.com/product/..._lighting.html

They look very nice with the sunrise sunset and lunar cycles.

Intelligent Cree?
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"2. Intelligent Functions

1) Infrared remote control: Different from the traditional and most new led lights, our newest intelligent led aquarium light takes the technology of infrared remote control, except the traditional manual mode by using button on panel housing side. It give our clients more choice and more convenient to operate the light.

2) For each color lighting there are 255 luminance ranges of brightness could be chosen. When those color lights are timed already, then they will light on in turn which seems so beautiful.

3) More intelligent and passive cooling systems: Our newest products are based on the theory of temperature sensor in our product then it prolong the lifespan of our products. When the temperature of LEDs reached to 60° C, it make the inside cooling fans to work. While if it is lower than 60° C, then it will not work.

4) Mimic natural sunrise and sunset of four seasons a year. And you could set the time in five modes ( 6:00am.6:30am,7:00am,7:30am and 8:00am) in different seasons which help push the growth of sea plants."
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Any thoughts on this fixture? 4ft 88 3w Cree has me very interested. Having two fixtures intstead of four would be helpful.

The digital readout and the remote control seem pretty dang awesome and they are fully customizable. LOL every couple months something better comes out. This is awesome.
Check the prices and check which Cree's they are using. The newest version is XT-E which is quite a bit better than last gen's XP-E XP-G. None of them use XT-E yet, so your fixture will be old before you get it.

I also don't trust controllers that don't have manuals. You don't get a manual with these lights, and if the controller goes, the whole light won't work.


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