Reeflo/Sequence Skimmer Club - Page 9

FishTruck · 09/04/2007, 12:30 PM

Hi guys, I just got turned on to this skimmer by GSM guy. I am starting to buy equipment for a 300 gallon new build. Is there some sort of overflow drain if the skimmer cup gets too full? i.e. - if I go on vacation for a week?

wizsmaster · 09/04/2007, 12:48 PM

there is a drain in the cup, yes ... so it would always drain into another container. I have it hooked to a 5gallon bucket/jug.

The skimmer comes with a cap for the drain, so you don't have to use the drain if you don't want.

wizsmaster · 09/04/2007, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blenny90
Currently, believe it or not, am doing well with an ASM G-3 w/mods.

But I need a new skimmer!

I thought i was doing well too ... till i hooked this beast up ... then my brown blue tipped stag turned all baby blue w/ teal ... and other corals colored up nicely as well ... BUT i do have a high bio-load.

Jeremy B. · 09/04/2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by JenDub
I'm wondering the same thing....

Jeremy; do you have any info on this?

The skimmer is ozone safe, but as with any other product that is considered to be ozone safe the quality will degrade at a faster rate than what it would if you were not using ozone.

Thanks,
Jeremy

blenny90 · 09/04/2007, 01:28 PM

Up until today, I was sold on an MRC MR-3R, which would have come in at the $800 range. I've rea about pump size, heat etc. and just feel that Becketts is "old technology".

Jeremy - two questions:

1) If I pump from my sump straight up to a 40" height, then discharge straight down ( assuming I size the feed pump correctly) will I have a problem? As posted by JenDub

2) If I discharge to a sump that has varying water levels - will that cause problems?

Somehow I need to logically justify $500 (to my wife), and Wiz - better looking corals is a big start. I want more bio-load, fish etc., but have never felt totally comfy with the G3.

Jeremy B. · 09/04/2007, 01:46 PM

I run my reeflo 250 at about 40" off the ground, above the sumps. I pump up out of the sump, and drain right back down. When the power goes off, the unit does back siphon. However, I can't figure for the life of me what the actual problem with this is, as I don't see it to be an issue at all for me? The skimmer only drains down to the black box though, so when the pumps would kick back on the recirc sequence pump will not run dry at all.

Discharging to a sump with varying water levels will not be an issue at all. The water level of any sump you are feeding from or to, does not make a difference in the level of the skimmer since it's a recirc.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

blenny90 · 09/04/2007, 01:59 PM

Jeremy - What feed pump are you using?

blenny90 · 09/04/2007, 04:02 PM

Jeremy - Also, what is the footprint?

Web literature doesn't show it.

blenny90 · 09/05/2007, 01:50 PM

Just ordered mine ...

These threads are invaluable information.

Thanks everyone for taking the time and making the effort.

Marvin

roxsburyrage · 09/06/2007, 05:29 PM

I am very interested in a top skimmer.Would this be overkill for a 90 gallon reef ready with a 75 gallon sump.

FishTruck · 09/06/2007, 07:10 PM

Just ordered mine for a 300. Did you see the totm? I read that, and was afraid they would sell out immediately!

RGM

blenny90 · 09/06/2007, 07:49 PM

FishT - No doubt ...

The article didn't do much for MRC ... ouch!

wizsmaster · 09/06/2007, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by roxsburyrage
I am very interested in a top skimmer.Would this be overkill for a 90 gallon reef ready with a 75 gallon sump.

personally, i think yes, it would be overkill. I personally would wait till the smaller model will be released, or if you don't have the time to wait, look into other alternatives, such as the mubble masters, small bubblekings, euroreef, deltecs etc..etc... there are plenty out there to choose from, but IMHO i think this skimmer would be overkill for that size tank.

roxsburyrage · 09/07/2007, 04:46 AM

Do you know about how long it will be till they release the smaller model Approx.

GSMguy · 09/07/2007, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roxsburyrage
Do you know about how long it will be till they release the smaller model Approx.

i think one of the bubble king mini would be a better fit the small version of this skimmer will still be on the big side for your tank..

Jeremy B. · 09/07/2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blenny90
Jeremy - Also, what is the footprint?

Web literature doesn't show it.

If you have a 16" x 21" area you would be just fine, with a little room to play.

Quote:

Originally posted by roxsburyrage
Do you know about how long it will be till they release the smaller model Approx.

We hope to have the smaller version ready in about 4-6 weeks at the latest.

We will also have the prototype of the larger version at MACNA. This is one huge skimmer, that is ran off of a Hammerhead needlewheel pump.

HDAlien · 09/07/2007, 09:01 AM

I'm torn on this one, what's the recommend on a 220 (300 gallon total system) medium stocked mixed reef setup (heavier on LPS/SPS than soft)? The current version or the coming smaller version?

Jeremy B. · 09/07/2007, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HDAlien
I'm torn on this one, what's the recommend on a 220 (300 gallon total system) medium stocked mixed reef setup (heavier on LPS/SPS than soft)? The current version or the coming smaller version?

Just go with ther larger version and have room to upgrade if you so desire in the future. I personally wouldn't put the 250 on anything smaller than 180-200 gallons. Anything over that and I think you would be fine, all the way up to 1000 - 1200 gallons depending on stock load.

GSMguy · 09/07/2007, 09:22 AM

cant wait to see that giant prototype

in fact you should hook it up to a portapottie and make a "hands on" display.

HDAlien · 09/07/2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy B.
Just go with ther larger version and have room to upgrade if you so desire in the future. I personally wouldn't put the 250 on anything smaller than 180-200 gallons. Anything over that and I think you would be fine, all the way up to 1000 - 1200 gallons depending on stock load.

My wife isn't going to like that answer Jeremy

But thanks for the reply!

HDAlien · 09/07/2007, 03:16 PM

Jeremy and others,
If gravity feeding one of these is not an option in my set up, what gph pump would be needed to feed one of these monsters?

benf · 09/08/2007, 08:57 PM

I just bought one today and plan to hook it up tomorrow and noticed that some of u appear to have placed the long pipe after the T, but some of the pics(like the one on page 1 of this thread) show the long pipe coming up from the skimmer body going into the bottom of the T. Is there a right or wrong way to do this? Would be nice if the pieces were marked with letters to correspond with the directions.

wizsmaster · 09/08/2007, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by benf
I .. noticed that some of u appear to have placed the long pipe after the T, but some of the pics(like the one on page 1 of this thread) show the long pipe coming up from the skimmer body going into the bottom of the T. Is there a right or wrong way to do this? Would be nice if the pieces were marked with letters to correspond with the directions.

Ben,
I went through all of the pics in this thread, reviewed my instruction page that came witht eh skimmer, and looked at the assembled pic on the first page, as well as the drawing picture in post #1.

I have the short piece coming up into the T, and the long piece going horizontally.
I believe "pwhitby" has it vice versa ... In the assembled picture of post # 1 (demo photo) it shows the long piece going from skimmer to T, and the short one horizontally.

In my drawing, and in the drawing in Post #1, it seems that the short piece comes up from skimmer to T.

If i remember correctly, I tried running the skimmer with the long piece coming up, but it brought the water too far up for my liking. that is IF i remember correctly.

I'd be interested in finding out as well.

benf · 09/09/2007, 06:04 AM

Since u seem to be having luck with the short piece coming up i will go with that one cause it works better with the clearence i have....Got to luv those instructions

wizsmaster · 09/09/2007, 09:30 AM

lol ... i wouldn't necessarily call them "instructions" ... i'd call them ... "reference pictures" ;-) hahaha.

that really is the worst part of this skimmer .. the lack of instructions ... BUT .. it's so easy to get this unit installed, i did it in ~15 minutes i think.

09/04/2007, 12:30 PM	#201
FishTruck Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 805	Hi guys, I just got turned on to this skimmer by GSM guy. I am starting to buy equipment for a 300 gallon new build. Is there some sort of overflow drain if the skimmer cup gets too full? i.e. - if I go on vacation for a week? __________________ Department of Redundancy Department. Current Tank Info: Established 2009 - 300 gal acrylic mostly sps, radion LEDs

09/07/2007, 09:01 AM	#217
HDAlien Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 476	I'm torn on this one, what's the recommend on a 220 (300 gallon total system) medium stocked mixed reef setup (heavier on LPS/SPS than soft)? The current version or the coming smaller version? __________________ ¡ʞuɐʇ ʎɯ ǝʌo1 ı Current Tank Info: 220 gal. reef

09/07/2007, 09:22 AM	#219
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	cant wait to see that giant prototype in fact you should hook it up to a portapottie and make a "hands on" display. __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator. Last edited by GSMguy; 09/07/2007 at 09:29 AM.

09/07/2007, 03:16 PM	#221
HDAlien Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 476	Jeremy and others, If gravity feeding one of these is not an option in my set up, what gph pump would be needed to feed one of these monsters? __________________ ¡ʞuɐʇ ʎɯ ǝʌo1 ı Current Tank Info: 220 gal. reef Last edited by HDAlien; 09/07/2007 at 03:41 PM.

09/08/2007, 08:57 PM	#222
benf Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: wesley chapel, florida Posts: 4,031	I just bought one today and plan to hook it up tomorrow and noticed that some of u appear to have placed the long pipe after the T, but some of the pics(like the one on page 1 of this thread) show the long pipe coming up from the skimmer body going into the bottom of the T. Is there a right or wrong way to do this? Would be nice if the pieces were marked with letters to correspond with the directions. __________________ Ben Current Tank Info: None :(

09/04/2007, 12:48 PM	#202
wizsmaster Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ft. Myers, SW FL - USA Posts: 1,579	there is a drain in the cup, yes ... so it would always drain into another container. I have it hooked to a 5gallon bucket/jug. The skimmer comes with a cap for the drain, so you don't have to use the drain if you don't want.

09/04/2007, 01:28 PM	#205
blenny90 Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 270	Up until today, I was sold on an MRC MR-3R, which would have come in at the $800 range. I've rea about pump size, heat etc. and just feel that Becketts is "old technology". Jeremy - two questions: 1) If I pump from my sump straight up to a 40" height, then discharge straight down ( assuming I size the feed pump correctly) will I have a problem? As posted by JenDub 2) If I discharge to a sump that has varying water levels - will that cause problems? Somehow I need to logically justify $500 (to my wife), and Wiz - better looking corals is a big start. I want more bio-load, fish etc., but have never felt totally comfy with the G3.

09/04/2007, 01:46 PM	#206
Jeremy B. Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN / Muncie, IN Posts: 8,219	I run my reeflo 250 at about 40" off the ground, above the sumps. I pump up out of the sump, and drain right back down. When the power goes off, the unit does back siphon. However, I can't figure for the life of me what the actual problem with this is, as I don't see it to be an issue at all for me? The skimmer only drains down to the black box though, so when the pumps would kick back on the recirc sequence pump will not run dry at all. Discharging to a sump with varying water levels will not be an issue at all. The water level of any sump you are feeding from or to, does not make a difference in the level of the skimmer since it's a recirc. Let me know if you have any other questions.

09/04/2007, 01:59 PM	#207
blenny90 Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 270	Jeremy - What feed pump are you using?

09/04/2007, 04:02 PM	#208
blenny90 Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 270	Jeremy - Also, what is the footprint? Web literature doesn't show it.

09/05/2007, 01:50 PM	#209
blenny90 Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 270	Just ordered mine ... These threads are invaluable information. Thanks everyone for taking the time and making the effort. Marvin

09/06/2007, 05:29 PM	#210
roxsburyrage Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 352	I am very interested in a top skimmer.Would this be overkill for a 90 gallon reef ready with a 75 gallon sump.

09/06/2007, 07:10 PM	#211
FishTruck Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 805	Just ordered mine for a 300. Did you see the totm? I read that, and was afraid they would sell out immediately! RGM

09/06/2007, 07:49 PM	#212
blenny90 Registered Member. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 270	FishT - No doubt ... The article didn't do much for MRC ... ouch!

09/07/2007, 04:46 AM	#214
roxsburyrage Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern New Jersey Posts: 352	Do you know about how long it will be till they release the smaller model Approx.

09/09/2007, 06:04 AM	#224
benf Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: wesley chapel, florida Posts: 4,031	Since u seem to be having luck with the short piece coming up i will go with that one cause it works better with the clearence i have....Got to luv those instructions __________________ Ben Current Tank Info: None :(

09/09/2007, 09:30 AM	#225
wizsmaster Moved On Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ft. Myers, SW FL - USA Posts: 1,579	lol ... i wouldn't necessarily call them "instructions" ... i'd call them ... "reference pictures" ;-) hahaha. that really is the worst part of this skimmer .. the lack of instructions ... BUT .. it's so easy to get this unit installed, i did it in ~15 minutes i think.