Pictures of Bomber's barebottom SPS tank and related equipment - Page 9

melev · 05/17/2004, 10:32 PM

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floppyfish · 05/17/2004, 11:04 PM

Bomber, would you recomend this method for softie tanks or tanks with corals that do not like such high flow?

Or is this method more for those who like to have strictly SPS?

Bomber · 05/18/2004, 06:51 AM

floopy

I guess people are taking a "one size fits all" approach to reef keeping with this. We're talking about what would be called SPS tanks. Lower nutrients, higher flow, cleaner water.

Softies, for the most part, receive their nutrients through direct uptake of water soluble nutrients. When reefs get polluted and SPS types die off, they are replaced with softies.

I would not use this low nutrient, clean water, high flow approach for a softie tank.

gregt · 05/18/2004, 06:57 AM

I tried to put everything in my tank, but I ended up pulling most of my softies and LPS as well. Too much current for them more than anything else.

MiddletonMark · 05/18/2004, 07:39 AM

Same here. When I tweaked the tank for some of my corals [Acropora, Montipora, etc] my fiance's open brain did poorly.

Then I set up a second tank [lower flow, higher nutrient, sandy substrate] for the open brain and other corals that appear to like that a lot more [mushrooms, xenia, other softies]

dirtyreefer · 05/18/2004, 09:30 AM

Looks like some nice coralline is growing over the starboard as well, that'll look awesome when it's covered

Bomber · 05/18/2004, 09:31 AM

Exactly, it would be like building a green house. Do you want tropical orchids or cactus.

melev · 05/18/2004, 12:56 PM

Hey Bomber, post a current picture if you have time.

Bomber · 05/18/2004, 04:18 PM

I wish I could. I have to bribe Greg to do it when he gets here.

I just did a major whack job on the Acros. One of them refuses to branch and I'm not giving up. They were all getting too weedy looking.

Yellotang · 05/18/2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by floppyfish
Bomber, would you recomend this method for softie tanks or tanks with corals that do not like such high flow?

Or is this method more for those who like to have strictly SPS?

I use the same method, except I feed alot more. My fish load is also concidered very heavy. And my softies are doing great!

LiquidShaneo · 05/19/2004, 07:04 AM

Definitely good to know Yellowtang. I've been considering trying this out on my tank upgrade w/ my softie tank.

Shane

Scotsman · 05/19/2004, 08:20 AM

Yellotang, If you are BB then what is in your refugium? I am going for the same mixed reef as you in a 155 bowfront and i am considering a fuge for it.

Yellotang · 05/20/2004, 06:45 AM

I need to go through and get rid of all those pictures. My refugium is now Bare Bottom. I removed it the same time I removed the DSB out of the tank.
Sorry to cause any confusion.

Yellotang · 05/20/2004, 06:48 AM

There, they are now deleted.
I will take pictures here soon and post. I have changed a lot of stuff and things have grown quite a bit.

Bomber · 05/20/2004, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yellotang
I use the same method, except I feed alot more. My fish load is also concidered very heavy. And my softies are doing great!

See, you understand the animals you're keeping and just adapt the husbandry to fit the animals.
Now if we could just get everyone to realize that.

Yellotang · 05/20/2004, 10:28 AM

Seriously!

Scotsman · 05/20/2004, 12:57 PM

Yellotang, What is in your BB refugium and how do you secure it?

Yellotang · 05/20/2004, 10:40 PM

How do I secure what? The algae?
It secures itself. It grabs the glass and pipe.

Yellotang · 05/20/2004, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yellotang
How do I secure what? The varius macro-algae?
It secures itself. It grabs the glass and pipe.

Scotsman · 05/24/2004, 06:38 AM

Thanks Yellotang. I wanted to know exactly which kinds of macro-agae and if they all just attach to anything in the tank?

Yellotang · 05/24/2004, 07:18 AM

It's a mixture of 4 different kinds of macros, including grape. The others I haven't bothered to ID.
One of them has long flat blades,
one is very thick and thread like, dark green that grows like speghetti
and I forget what the 4th one looks like.

I have a skimmer and the skimmers stand in the refugium. I allow the macros to grow all over the outside of the skimmer and the tank walls.

gregt · 06/01/2004, 02:06 PM

Ok, I have to preface this with a statement that conveys that these photos just don't do this tank justice. It looks so much better than the photos show.

Here's Bomber's overall tank as of last weekend:

gregt · 06/01/2004, 02:07 PM

Corals and starboard:

gregt · 06/01/2004, 02:07 PM

Fish:

Rick Davis · 06/01/2004, 02:13 PM

Jerel...

If you don't start scraping that coralline off the starboard it is gonna turn completely purple in another couple of months.

Then guys will be asking you "Hey where did you get that purple starboard from?"

Lookin good

And great pics Greg.

05/17/2004, 11:04 PM	#202
floppyfish Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 841	Bomber, would you recomend this method for softie tanks or tanks with corals that do not like such high flow? Or is this method more for those who like to have strictly SPS? __________________ I'm not young enough to know it all. Current Tank Info: 1 20g algae farm. Want frags?

05/18/2004, 06:57 AM	#204
gregt Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 17,986	I tried to put everything in my tank, but I ended up pulling most of my softies and LPS as well. Too much current for them more than anything else. __________________ -Greg If you want to know - ask. But I won't promise you'll like the answer. Current Tank Info: 400 gallon room divider system

05/18/2004, 07:39 AM	#205
MiddletonMark Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 14,441	Same here. When I tweaked the tank for some of my corals [Acropora, Montipora, etc] my fiance's open brain did poorly. Then I set up a second tank [lower flow, higher nutrient, sandy substrate] for the open brain and other corals that appear to like that a lot more [mushrooms, xenia, other softies] __________________ read a lot, think for yourself Current Tank Info: 58g stony reef [250w10k, 250w 20k MH, 2x vho act, Octopus150, 6060 + 6000] ; 60g mixed tub

06/01/2004, 02:06 PM	#222
gregt Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 17,986	Latest pictures of Bomber's tank Ok, I have to preface this with a statement that conveys that these photos just don't do this tank justice. It looks so much better than the photos show. Here's Bomber's overall tank as of last weekend: __________________ -Greg If you want to know - ask. But I won't promise you'll like the answer. Current Tank Info: 400 gallon room divider system

06/01/2004, 02:07 PM	#223
gregt Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 17,986	Corals and starboard: __________________ -Greg If you want to know - ask. But I won't promise you'll like the answer. Current Tank Info: 400 gallon room divider system

05/17/2004, 10:32 PM	#201
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	[subscribe]

05/18/2004, 06:51 AM	#203
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	floopy I guess people are taking a "one size fits all" approach to reef keeping with this. We're talking about what would be called SPS tanks. Lower nutrients, higher flow, cleaner water. Softies, for the most part, receive their nutrients through direct uptake of water soluble nutrients. When reefs get polluted and SPS types die off, they are replaced with softies. I would not use this low nutrient, clean water, high flow approach for a softie tank.

05/18/2004, 09:30 AM	#206
dirtyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,221	Looks like some nice coralline is growing over the starboard as well, that'll look awesome when it's covered

05/18/2004, 09:31 AM	#207
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Exactly, it would be like building a green house. Do you want tropical orchids or cactus.

05/18/2004, 12:56 PM	#208
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Hey Bomber, post a current picture if you have time.

05/18/2004, 04:18 PM	#209
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	I wish I could. I have to bribe Greg to do it when he gets here. I just did a major whack job on the Acros. One of them refuses to branch and I'm not giving up. They were all getting too weedy looking.

05/19/2004, 07:04 AM	#211
LiquidShaneo Reefer Join Date: May 2000 Location: Archbold, OH, USA Posts: 1,162	Definitely good to know Yellowtang. I've been considering trying this out on my tank upgrade w/ my softie tank. Shane

05/19/2004, 08:20 AM	#212
Scotsman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florence,SC Posts: 168	Yellotang, If you are BB then what is in your refugium? I am going for the same mixed reef as you in a 155 bowfront and i am considering a fuge for it.

05/20/2004, 06:45 AM	#213
Yellotang Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pasco,Washington. A.K.A. The Tri-Cites. Posts: 1,908	I need to go through and get rid of all those pictures. My refugium is now Bare Bottom. I removed it the same time I removed the DSB out of the tank. Sorry to cause any confusion.

05/20/2004, 06:48 AM	#214
Yellotang Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pasco,Washington. A.K.A. The Tri-Cites. Posts: 1,908	There, they are now deleted. I will take pictures here soon and post. I have changed a lot of stuff and things have grown quite a bit.

05/20/2004, 10:28 AM	#216
Yellotang Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pasco,Washington. A.K.A. The Tri-Cites. Posts: 1,908	Seriously!

05/20/2004, 12:57 PM	#217
Scotsman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florence,SC Posts: 168	Yellotang, What is in your BB refugium and how do you secure it?

05/20/2004, 10:40 PM	#218
Yellotang Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pasco,Washington. A.K.A. The Tri-Cites. Posts: 1,908	How do I secure what? The algae? It secures itself. It grabs the glass and pipe.

05/24/2004, 06:38 AM	#220
Scotsman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florence,SC Posts: 168	Thanks Yellotang. I wanted to know exactly which kinds of macro-agae and if they all just attach to anything in the tank?

05/24/2004, 07:18 AM	#221
Yellotang Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Pasco,Washington. A.K.A. The Tri-Cites. Posts: 1,908	It's a mixture of 4 different kinds of macros, including grape. The others I haven't bothered to ID. One of them has long flat blades, one is very thick and thread like, dark green that grows like speghetti and I forget what the 4th one looks like. I have a skimmer and the skimmers stand in the refugium. I allow the macros to grow all over the outside of the skimmer and the tank walls.

06/01/2004, 02:07 PM	#224
gregt Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 17,986	Fish: __________________ -Greg If you want to know - ask. But I won't promise you'll like the answer. Current Tank Info: 400 gallon room divider system

06/01/2004, 02:13 PM	#225
Rick Davis Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 577 Blog Entries: 1	Jerel... If you don't start scraping that coralline off the starboard it is gonna turn completely purple in another couple of months. Then guys will be asking you "Hey where did you get that purple starboard from?" Lookin good And great pics Greg. __________________ "It all started with a tidepool in Hawaii..." Current Tank Info: 34G AIO in progress